“What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever.”

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    I’d vote for her. I’d also vote for Bernie again, if he ran again. I don’t care about his age, all that would matter is he got into office, and established a cabinet, and had a good Vice President to take over.

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      I’d door-knock for her.

      Sheesh, and I haven’t canvased for a candidate in almost 20 years.

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      Bernie is 84 years old.

      I am a huge fan of Bernie. Have been for over a decade. He is too old to be the president.

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        Shouldn’t be getting downvotes for this. Bernie deserves to rest, he’s been saying the same message for decades and it’s up to us to make it better for him, now.

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        Bernie for president and AOC for vice president? That’d be something.

        IF he died in office, the position likely would be taken good care of

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    I 100% get not committing to run right now, it would be stupid to do so.

    “In this op-ed that Bezos paid for in The Washington Post, there was a veiled threat — it was the elite saying if you want this job, you just stepped out of line,” said Ocasio-Cortez. “What’s funny about that is they assume my ambition is positional. They assume my ambition is a title or a seat. My ambition is way bigger than that. My ambition is to change this country. Presidents come and go, elected officials come and go, single payer healthcare is forever.”

    But I sure as fuck hope she realizes becoming president is our best shot at that.

    Shed drive down ballot races like Obama did, but isn’t as cocky and obsessed with personal power to ignore the DNC after winning like Obama did. Shed name a progressive chair.

    Bringing in a wave of progressives and putting the party firmly on the progressive side of the divide is absolutely the biggest thing she (or anyone) can do to get us single payer healthcare.

    So like I said, hopefully she’s planning to run, just smart enough to not say it yet.

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        I mean this completely seriously:

        Not with that attitude.

        Maybe without that attitude it’s still true, but we need more people than AOC even if they’re not “as good”

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        I mean she’s not great. She’s probably the weakest among the squad cohort at actually playing the game of politics. She gives a good speech but she regularly gets her ankles broken because she seems to have, like the article demonstrates, a very calculating nature, or at least developed one after sher first two years in Congress.

        And that’s bad. Like, very bad if you seek higher office, because people are done with the whole not saying what you mean thing.

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            I’m more concerned about how she regularly missteps and misplays moments. She genuinely doesn’t have great political instincts and is usually last to the table among her peers when it comes to doing or saying the right thing. It’s kind of baffling.

            Both Ayana Presley and Ilhan Omar are leagues ahead of being in the right side of issues and leading when things matter the most. AOC trails them on issues.

            Like, it’s gotten bad to the point where I don’t know if AOC could make it through a primary. Her ability to get a question and form an answer that is a good, correct take, the first time, without having to test it. It’s not great.

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              She is so threatening to the Epstein class - so much so that it causes comments like this from “ordinary people”

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                I mean somewhat. Not nearly as threatening as Ro Khanna though. Someone also who has shown faaaar better political instincts. Ro might be a bit more boring and not as pretty, but they are FAR better at the game compared to AOC, who is a bit of a B student in her class.

                It’s the unforced errors she keeps piling up that give me the most pause.

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          So you want someone stupider, or at least better at seeming like they don’t think? I don’t think I take your meaning. Politicians are meant to be ‘calculating’, it’s a famously viperous workplace. I prefer one that thinks, and I don’t mind if you can tell when they’re doing it.

          People should be less obsessed with optics, and more oriented towards what politicians do.

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            Maybe you just don’t follow politics much, but this critique of AOC isn’t new and we’ve been getting on her about it for years. Instincts matter in politics, a lot. Getting through a presidential primary is hard.

            Just try and notice how your now defending the things that we specifically went out of our way to remove from our politics as progressives, because it’s coming from someone you identify with as being in your team.

            Look, politicians don’t need cheerleaders. They need critics who can make them stronger, and if AOC does want to run, shes got some real issues that have been piling up shell need to address. And yes, this developed tendency to become more and more couched hlin her language, to become more and more politically calculating, it’s a real problem.

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        once upon a time that’s how headlines and news were written–so you could get the gist of the news by skimming headlines (of your printed newspaper) and perhaps the first short paragraph of an article.

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      Speaker of the House could be impactful almost immediately. And with control of the House and Senate, Trump and JD are one impeachment and removal away from welcoming the Speaker as POTUS. I know the majorities need to be massive but let me dream for a moment.

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    The problem is single player isn’t forever. Look at Germany. The entire healthcare system is on the verge of collapse.

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      Germany isn’t single payer. It has a complicated dual system with public and private insurance allowing the highest earners and civil servants to go private, i.e. outside the solidarity system which causes the whole structure to collapse.

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    I don’t know if they’ve got the political instincts. Too many times AOC ends up in unforced error territory.