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    I thought it was obvious from the video that he nicked his ear on the secret service person’s belt buckle on the way down when they were piling onto him? It explains the paltry amount of blood that appears only after he’s down, not to mention the optimal healing time. No bullet did that.

    I don’t believe it was staged. Everything that came after, yes, lies upon lies, exploiting the situation to its maximum potential, absolutely. But a real rifle was fired, a real bystander was killed, and Trump’s secret service really was incompetent enough to let it happen. No need to invent anything when the obvious truth is damning enough.

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      I think that’s the point of the article - for many in the cult, the spell is broken. Gas prices were enough to end his career, even if being a Naked Fascist wasn’t.

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    I liked when the camera people were rushed into the proper spot and the flag was lowered so it’d be in the frame when he reappeared

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    I watched a YouTube video where someone tried to recreate the shot that apparently sliced his ear so slightly that all it did was bleed a little…and they failed every time.

    Simply due to the pressure wave created by the passing bullet, there was no possible way that bullet just knicked him without also doing noticeable damage to the rest of his head. That side of his face would have been bruised and swollen, and his entire ear would have been pulped.

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          Because Trump wanted to have been shot, not hit with a shard of glass, in a location likely above the ear.

          But, tiny shard of glass doesn’t play well with the base.

          The real cut was likely sealed with medical adhesive the second Trump was in the car. That too wouldn’t play well, so he got a medic to slap a bandage on the side of his head, but he took it off because his dumbass followers were wearing ear diapers as well.

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      He was prepared for it, and learned the trick from the McMahons of cutting your ear a little bit in the ring. Palm a safety pin or razor blade and boom, nicked ear

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    I actually don’t really care if the assassination attempt was staged or not…

    (For the record, I don’t believe it was, because I don’t believe this group of chucklefucks could successfully execute such an event without totally cocking it up somehow or accidentally texting their plans to the New York Times.)

    …because I know for a fact that Trump has done so many horrifying things right out in public where we can see them that if there was any functional justice in the world he’d already be locked up for the rest of his miserable fucking life. Faking an assassination attempt wouldn’t even be in the top hundred worst things that he’s done.

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    No of course not, gunshot wounds to the ear heal up completely with no scar tissue in like 48 hours all the time. One of the ER techs asked Grok.

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      Your “ask Grok” comment is particularly relevant because this day seems to be the turning point researchers cite for when Musk decided to fully support Trump.

      I could only speculate as to whether it was staged and Musk was involved in that, or if it was Musk’s genuine response, or what exactly, but its highly suspicious.

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      And the bow shock will totally mangle cartilage beyond that “I squirted ketchup” effect. And he’d be deaf, right? So many problems in this, another cheap caricature of a real thing.

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        And he’d be deaf, right?

        you can sustain a tremendous amount of mangling on the exterior of the ear and still hear. I don’t disagree it’d be mangled tho, not this slight nick. I think he grabbed glass and cut his own ear.

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      Well, the previous theory they held was that God redirected this bullet away from the great and holy warrior Trump and into an evil and unrepentant volunteer firefighter at his rally.

      But even they are finding that harder to believe every day.

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        One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed. The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast. People worshiped the dragon because he had given authority to the beast, and they also worshiped the beast and asked, “Who is like the beast? Who can wage war against it?”

        The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

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            The Greek gods did quite enjoy playing with the mortals for their own, often sadistic, entertainment. Trump is probably their favorite comedic character in the currently ongoing production.

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              I’m pretty sure the only chill gods in Greek mythology are Hephaestus, Hades and Persephone, and weirdly enough Dionysus since he is just the god of sex, drugs, and rock and roll also crippling madness.

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                sex, drugs, and rock and roll also crippling madness

                I mean have you heard stories from the 60s-70s? I’m thoroughly convinced the only reason this isn’t part of the slogan is it wouldn’t fit on a shirt.

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                  Honestly yeah. Fun fact I’ve on more than one occasion have considered making lore for a Slaaneshi Ultramarine warband based on the Dionysian Mysteries with some 1970s aesthetics mixed in. Haven’t quite gotten how I’d want them to look down though.

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                Ares, while of course being the god of War, was never accused of being a rapist, but he did murder someone trying to rape his daughter.

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                  Based and dad pilled Ares. Fun fact he was also married to Warlike Aphrodite over in Sparta, which explains why perpetual cheat is part of both of their characters given how Athenians were the ones writing things down.

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      They think he staged his own fake assassination, while also blaming Jews and remaining staunch Trump supporters. So just the usual incoherent cultish mumblings, not any actual insight or any movement away from him.

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        Blaming TEH JOOOZ is never too far off when discussing conspiracy theories.

        What I hate about some of these people waking the fuck up about Israel with the bullshit America-Israel attack on Iran, is that for some of them, it only validates their feelings on Jews because they are too stupid to separate some Jewish cabal notion from matters of foreign policy for nations like the United States and Israel…sigh.

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          Unfortunately you seem to use something called ‘your brain’ to conjure your own reasoning of the world around you. The average conspiracy theorist does not do this. The average conspiracy theorist believes that they’re the main character and everyone else is just drifting through life waiting to bear witness to their glory.

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    Yeah, I wouldn’t rule it out immediately given how this chickenshit POS jumped up, and the Secret Service let him, for his very convenient photo-op, and then these dumbasses started selling shirts of it.

    His actions in this case seem quite the contrast to the way he reacted to that bald eagle…

    I still don’t understand the way his ear healed up - does he have any sort of scar there?

    In any case, no matter all the details, it served its purpose and probably helped to get this completely unqualified asshole back into office again.

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    That are stupid but eventually they can figure out one thing out a thousand.

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    On Telegram, prominent QAnon promoter MJ Truth asked his 100,000 followers: “How does everyone feel about the narrative surrounding the Butler Assassination Attempt on Trump?”

    The overwhelming majority of the hundreds of replies, almost all of whom remain Trump supporters, said they believed the incident had been staged and that the truth may never come out. “The truth will come out 60+ years from now when we’re all dead and nobody really cares anymore … just like JFK!!!,” one follower wrote.

    There you go.

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      It’s a group of people who believe anything that fits their narrative, and they don’t need actual data. If they soured on Trump, it makes sense they’d start believing stuff like this.

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      I think the (hilarious) trump Jesus photo did more damage to maga than Iran war did. And Iran war fucked up maga.

      All that was left were mostly religious wing nuts.

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      Personally, I think the registered republican kid just had the foresight to think “hey, won’t this bankrupt moron who was friends with Epstein ruin any chance of small government Republicans ever having control again?” Like, it makes perfect sense to want to kill Trump, it doesn’t need to be a conspiracy.

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        Yeah, I’m with you on that (like, if it were a fake attempt, wouldn’t you want the shooter to not be a Republican?), but there are enough weird things around the shooting that it should give anyone pause.

        The big one that I haven’t seen a compelling answer for is how someone managed to get on a roof within comfortable plinking distance of a former president running for reelection and then fire multiple shots before getting dusted. “Incompetence” is the only answer we’ve been given, so I’m not surprised that conspiracy theorists are flocking to this.

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          Not to mention, the skill needed to wing his ear (or hit the glass that winged his ear) at that distance without wanting to kill him in the process, it would probably be beyond the capability of a marksman this young.

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            I honestly doubt there are more than a handful of marksmen alive who could reliably make that shot consistently enough that Trump would trust his life to them. There’s no fucking way that bloody ear came from a bullet, nevermind the collateral trauma his head would have experienced if it had. The scenario I’ve heard that seems most plausible is that his ear scraped against an SS agent’s holster as they were getting him out of the way.

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            Doing a shot like that reliably would be beyond the capability of any marksman.

            There are, perhaps, some out there who could do it most of the time, but I don’t think there’s a single one ever who could count on it as a 100% thing.

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            He needed to be close but not too close. That was his failure - damn near took him out on accident.

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        Actually, I think it could be something more sinister.

        IF his identity was real and he actually existed and he was up there with a gun, I don’t think he ever had any intention of doing what the claim says he was trying to do. On the other hand, I wouldn’t put it past the reasoning of right-wingers to either stage the whole thing, or for a lone right-wing kid to intentionally go there and aim for the person behind Trump, with the intention of making it look like what it’s been sold as.

        The kid could have thought “If I just do this, Trump will win, I guarantee it,” and he could have been expecting that he (the shooter) wouldn’t be making it out, but would have glory in assuring that Trump was elected.

        I don’t know exactly what happened in this situation, but I do know that ears don’t heal in the way Trump’s ear looks.

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          I could completely believe that explanation. MAGA is that unhinged, that they would sacrifice their life and kill others so that their cult leader god would ascend the throne and bring about the end of days.

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        Personally, I think the kid was blackmailed into it, by someone who loved to see the carnage after the Emperor dies (and takes the reins afterwards). Far fetched? Maybe, but with the Epstein files very little is far fetched, alas.

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          That begs the question, though – why hasn’t the person behind it tried again since then?

          Someone with the motivation and the resources to do this once could try it again.

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      It’s hard to conceive they are thinking on their own. Perhaps someone is leading them to parrot someone else’s thinking.

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      2024: “Trump good. Protected by God. Evil assassin must be Woke Transgender Communist.”

      2026: “Trump bad. Nefarious and sinister. Assassin must have been evil trick to make us think Trump Good. But we too smart. See through trick.”

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      Some right wing talking heads started saying it.

      Their echo chamber is tightly seal but there are those inside of it that can seed discontent. I expect it to increase as the midterms get harder to ignore and go completely off the rails if it’s a slaughter.

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    Iranian sleeper cells tried to assassinate him because they’re prudes and wanted him to stop talking about Hannibal Lectar.

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    “I think that maybe it was staged,” Tim Dillon said on his show last weekend about the assassination attempt. Dillon, who was previously a staunch Trump supporter, went on to share that Trump should now come out and say, “Some people are going to be upset by this, but we staged the assassination attempt in Butler to show people how important it was to vote for me and how far I was willing to go for them.”

    Duuuude. Fucking delusional. He staged the attempt to win the election. Full stop.

    You don’t “show people” a lie. You don’t fake a scene for power for other people.

    “If you cannot look at this story and use critical thinking skills and have at least some questions, you are the problem and we need you to snap out of it,” Trisha Hope, a GOP national delegate from Texas and former Trump supporter, posted on X about Butler this week.

    This one is really key, because this is what everyone that was paying attention was saying when it happened over a year ago.

    “The radical invents the views. When he has worn them out, the conservative adopts them.” - Mark Twain

    Except at this point, you just need to have a nondelusional point of view.