Trying to have a discussion with someone who doesn’t care about logic or evidence is pointless, but…
Cley_faye clutching their pearls priceless
Edit: First they came for people strangulating each other causing permanent brain damage on camera and encouraging others to do so, then they came for Cley_faye’s foot fetish videos. Oh God, this is how dumb this is.
Taking religious freedom away, surely this will make conservatives reevaluate their support for this godless pro-child rapist administration /S
It is a funny sermon for sure, but it is clear the sides are not even close to equal.
The left railing against institutionalized sexism and racism using the power of demonstration to prove their point.
The right railing against people they judge as wrong using institutional violence to harass, harm, and murder them.
You have not proven your point at all. In fact, you just exposed yourself as a poor devil’s advocate who doesn’t understand the situation. Congratulations!
Your are welcome to ignore reality and play devil’s advocate. I won’t be joining you in your trip to fantasy land. Thank goodness cooler heads prevail and the UK is doing the right thing. I will lobby my own government for a similar outcome.
Actors do actually get choked so that takes care of the first part of your premise. Here is a story of it happening. There is no safe way to restrict breathing period.
https://laist.com/news/holly-deen-accusations
To the last part. It should be illegal to actually harm people on camera which is what is happening. If you think this is a over reaction you are wrong. We should not be allowing this to happen.
There is direct correlation between people watching people get choked out in porn and doing it in real life. This is not violent video games.
Please save your moral panic nonsense for cases were it is applicable. It is not here. This is simply a public health issue and the UK is doing the right thing.
Can we do Trump and his mobtards next?
Hearing this weasley short end of the stick motherfucker cry out in his nasally and whiny voice, “This is our fucking city” has to be peak Maga.
If you have conservative reps you could try calling and writing their office and demand they compromise on health care. With enough pressure they will cave.
If you have progressive reps call and congratulate them and tell them not to stop until the conservatives start participating in governance
Many of your later questions would rely on too much conjecture to answer. The simple truth is this unprecedented and we don’t know what is going to happen.
I share many of your concerns as many people here do.
Sex acts are not something that is pure and sacred that exist outside of the very real dynamics of our society.
Yes, these people (the murders from the article) literally are using the arguments that you and other people use in this discussion. They have twisted consent past the breaking point. The fucked up thing is they get away with it.
What about the accidental deaths? As I have already said adults in relationships accidentally kill each other because choking is unsafe. If you accidentally killed your partner choking them are you a murderer!? Has does consent fix this.
Consent does not take away the harm and does not make it acceptable. Should society allow the promotion of these harmful behaviors because "consent’.
I feel like you are not different than the defense attorneys arguing that these murderers are in fact just innocent people engaging in consensual sex acts. Is this really your position?
Furthermore, we are ignoring all the suffering and damage that a permissive culture causes that encourages dangerous acts without denouncing them. This is what is happening in the UK. And their response is to ban these harmful depictions.
This is not a moral panic, when over half of college women report unwanted choking. It is an epidemic.
Oxygen deprivation is not okay and consent cannot get around that. Brain damage is real. It is no different than huffing harmful substances. You are not going stand here and argue with me that it is okay for people to destroy their brains by depriving them from oxygen.
People here will sit here and argue it is okay because CONSENT. This is a disservice to the concept of consent. It is also against the morality of kink culture.
Dude, do you really need me to prove that people are accidently choked to death during sex acts around the world on a daily basis? I can’t even with you right now.
“Strangulation – fatal and non-fatal – “squeezing”, “neck compression” or, as some call, it “breath-play” – is highly gendered. On average, one woman in the UK is strangled to death by her partner every two weeks”
Where are all the men deaths from choking due to sex!?
Your inability to see what is going on is a major failing on your part. That is okay, because you didn’t know better until now.
Edit: Death does not even account for brain damage, PTSD, and the epidemic of women being choked against their will.
So then you admit that the majority of choking is without consent, unless you honestly think people are talking about the brain damage they are giving their partner. I am glad we can agree.
It is a kink issue. It goes against the kink code because there is no after care possible. Until they take responsibility for the damage they cause it is not safe and therefore a betrayal of the movement.
Yes, sex acts that lead to death that can be accidental.
Sure, if your not actually choking, strangulating, or constricting breathing in any shape or form it is okay.
Unfortunately, below is the reality that you have convinced yourself that doesn’t exist.
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2019/jul/25/fatal-hateful-rise-of-choking-during-sex
There is no safe way to constrict breathing. What you saying is not choking or strangulation.
Comparing brain death due to strangulation to moral panic is obviously incorrect.
Your meme ignores reality, but go ahead and pat yourself on the back.
Consent required all parties to know the consequences to be fully informed. When you coerce you partner into choking without the knowledge it is causing lasting permanent brain damage you are not getting consent.
Kuhli says, “Hey baby can I give you brain death because it is my kink”
There is no after care for brain damage. This is where the kink community needs to come together to put their foot down.
Nope, not at all but misogyny is a driving factor in men choking women just like a lot of partner related abuse.
There is a huge societal factor here with the popularity and depictions of strangulation. “I am vanilla baby, I will choke you, but I ain’t no killer”.
Coercion and wanting to please your partner is often confused with consent especially when it is a dangerous activity like strangulation.
Depriving the mind of oxygen can produce euphoric feelings in people. This is extremely concerning considering that this also causes brain cell death. Reinforcing orgasm with such a destructive practice is very problematic.
Clowns deserve a clown show.