• VinnyDaCat@lemmy.world
    1·
    32 minutes ago

    I’ve been trying to do this, but the best I’ve achieved so far is having certain cords using adapters.

  • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
    1·
    53 minutes ago

    Now enjoy the power brick roulette. My work laptop charger (dell) won’t do anything more than trickle charge anything else (other than my girlfriend’s Mac?!). I had to buy a new brick to get something that appears to charge everything at each devices rated speed.

    Being able to charge a laptop from my monitor using the same cable that handles the display output and peripherals is cool though! (But that DOESN’T work on a Mac… It won’t pass the keyboard through!)

    “Standards”!

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      42 minutes ago

      I bought a very small 100w Anker charger that works on everything USB c so far. I don’t carry my dell one anymore.

  • exaybachae@startrek.website
    3·
    2 hours ago

    Really looking forward to my SO upgrading away from their older lightening iPhone, and back to Android, maybe an e/os fairphone (they like the green one).

  • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
    655·
    6 hours ago

    Thank God for the EU.

    If Apple and the Americans had their way, each of those would use a different proprietary connector.

    • [object Object]@lemmy.world
      1·
      1 hour ago

      The Apple who were the first to make an all-usb-c laptop?

      Apple caught flak for switching iPhones from the 31-pin connector to Lightning, and obviously didn’t want to repeat the experience sooner than necessary.

      • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        13 minutes ago

        Oh, there are vanishingly few hardware vendors I hate with a greater burning passion than Sony. Over the span of literal decades, Sony has consistently and systematically found so many ways to piss me off that I will never give them another red cent so long as I live. I will happily pay slightly more money for a slightly inferior version of whatever gadget from somebody else rather than deal with Sony’s bullshit.

      • draco_aeneus@mander.xyzEnglish
        21·
        6 hours ago

        The reason we should thank the EU is because of this rule. While I cannot guarantee this rule is responsible, the fact that it’s mandated means it’s significantly more economically viable to use the same connector across all regions (including America), and so this rule is the primary factor in the standardization of charging cables.

        • papalonian@lemmy.world
          112·
          6 hours ago

          I know why we have the EU to thank .

          If Apple and the Americans had their way, each of those would use a different proprietary connector.

          Americans don’t want proprietary connectors. We’re happy to get USB-C, too.

          • draco_aeneus@mander.xyzEnglish
            14·
            6 hours ago

            Ah, I misunderstood. I conflated “Americans” (lawmakers) and “Americans” (everyone else).

            • papalonian@lemmy.world
              5·
              5 hours ago

              When did anyone say the EU created USB-C? They passed legislature that required the mass adoption of it and are the reason Apple had to switch from that stupid lightning connector (and other companies can’t try to make their own), but I don’t see anyone claiming the EU created it.

      • [object Object]@lemmy.world
        1·
        55 minutes ago

        Which ‘port designed by Apple’? Apple’s Lightning is quite obviously more sturdy than usb-c, being just a puck with contacts, put into a hole with contacts and without flimsy plastic tongues. However, Lightning is more costly to produce, while afaik USB was always made from cheap sheet metal.

        Though you might mean Thunderbolt, since afaik usb-c is made to be able to carry Thunderbolt. Not sure if that involved more than electrical concerns, however.

        • ozymandias117@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          14 minutes ago

          The moving parts are in the device rather than the cable with Lightning. The tongue on USB-C is required to be deep enough that you can’t torque it with the cable during insertion/removal.

          It’s not an obvious comparison, but the mechanical engineers where I work seem to have a mild preference for USB-C

          The expensive part of both is that you need a microcontroller in the cable

          USB-C also has way more pins for data/power

      • draco_aeneus@mander.xyzEnglish
        142·
        6 hours ago

        The EU commision did not decide on USB-C in a vacuum. It looked on already existing stanards and talked to many large electronics manufacturers in order to come to a proposal for USB-C as a universal standard. You are right to point out the role that both Intel and Apple played (Along HP, Microsoft and the USB-IF) in the development of the standard, but you’re missing the forest for the trees, since it was the EU making it a *universal * standard within it’s boarders that means we all use the same standard.

    • deHaga@feddit.uk
      31·
      6 hours ago

      Until a better option becomes available, and then being stuck with just usb c will suck

      • draco_aeneus@mander.xyzEnglish
        11·
        6 hours ago

        The laws specified by the EU allow for future technological developments and the advancement of the standard without having to re-write the laws. The law itself includes a mandatory technical review, and allows for new standards to be integrated, and outdated standards to be dropped.

        • deHaga@feddit.uk
          26·
          4 hours ago

          I don’t think governments should be in charge of deciding what’s innovative

          • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
            6·
            3 hours ago

            History has shown us again and again that corporations can’t behave decently if let to their own device.

            I would much rather have the government stiffle innovation if that means that consumer are safe and benefit from said innovation.

            • deHaga@feddit.uk
              1·
              3 hours ago

              I’m not saying don’t regulate.

              I would much rather have the government stiffle innovation if that means that consumer are safe and benefit from said innovation.

              How can they benefit from innovation that has been stifled?

              • Croquette@sh.itjust.works
                1·
                25 minutes ago

                Stifle wasn’t the right word. Sorry about that, I wrote my comment too fast amd English isn’t my first language.

                Innovation isn’t an all or nothing thing.

                There is a difference between removing all the red tape and saying “fuck it” and making sure that the said innovation isn’t outright dangerous. If we need to take thing slower to make sure that people aren’t killed directly or indirectly, then so be it.

              • Greg Clarke@lemmy.caEnglish
                1·
                2 hours ago

                How can they benefit from innovation that has been stifled?

                If the innovation is a more efficient way to stub your toe

            • deHaga@feddit.uk
              13·
              3 hours ago

              Exactly the sort of thinking that has stagnated Europe in all areas of innovation this century.

      • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        4·
        4 hours ago

        They literally did until recently.

        Apple would still be using different variants of their crappy connectors for everything, none of which were compatible with anything non-Apple, if not for the EU ruling forcing them not to.

        • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          8 minutes ago

          It’s easy: The input side is the high voltage socket, and the output side is an abyssal cable squid nightmare that sprays out into 128 individual male type C plugs, each on the end of about a 6" long pigtail. By the time you’re done plugging all of them in, your vehicle is charged.

      • Greyscale@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        1·
        7 hours ago

        Since some cars can do v2l (vehicle to load) the oppoite is a valid product, a CCS connector to USB C for driving other loads from the cars pack.

        • Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
          2·
          2 hours ago

          And pray that its not a supercheap product that messes up handshakes. I got a unbranded powerbank from a cousin (temu or something) that pulled enough from her 95w charger to melt the housing before the power brick cut power

    • SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world
      1·
      4 hours ago

      Cruise is already dead. We need to kill Tesla before it kills more of us. The rest of the actors in the autonomous vehicles space appear to actually be acting in good faith.

    • Greyscale@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      12·
      7 hours ago

      USB PD now supports up to 230W so thats on the manufacturerer being lazy, or the design having elements that are a few years old, since PD recently got that update.

      I’m guessing its a lenovo, 170W is one of their bigger bricks.

      But the next laptop you have might use the same charger as your ebike, so there’s that.

      • masterspace@lemmy.caEnglish
        71·
        6 hours ago

        The spec supports 240W, and there are lots of cables rated at that, but there are still no chargers on the market that can hit 240W.

      • eli@lemmy.world
        4·
        6 hours ago

        Yup, I just bought a Framework and bought their 240w charger.

        Granted I bought the 13 not the 16, so it can’t use all of it, but it exists!

        • Greyscale@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
          3·
          4 hours ago

          You’ll find that it’ll work just fine on 100W USB C unless you have a dGPU in which case it really wants the bigboy power brick.

          If it makes you feel better, soon there will be adapters from USB PD 3.1 to 230W Lenovo Square sooner or later. And sometimes, older thinkpads with the square and circle connectors have had little kits made to give them USB C charging. Its only a matter of time.

          And for what its worth, if it wasn’t gonna be C, Lenovo Square is a good one since I have tons of them knocking about, and eventually so does everyone.

          • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world
            1·
            21 minutes ago

            It has a GPU, but it’s helpful to know that I can look out for adaptors, thanks.

            I like to be able to have a charger set up in more than one room than can be shared instead of moving chargers around all the time.

  • plenipotentprotogod@lemmy.world
    4·
    6 hours ago

    Now do yourself a favor and buy a good quality cable thats at least 10ft long and rated for 240W. The feeling of having one cable that can charge any of your devices from any seat on your couch is incredible.