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    you realize the quality of the food back then was much worse, right? way more treated/process/packaged up the wazoo crap. Whole foods type stuff didn’t really exist yet in any broadly available way.

    that’s also why it was so cheap. I grew up in the 80s/90s. The food was disgusting and we started getting massive increases in quality in the late 90s/early 2000s. if you ate a 1985 tomato you’d probably spit it out because it tasted like water and fiber and had zero flavor. it probably also had lead and other neurotoxins because of the lack of environmental regulations.

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        or frozen ones that turned into mush once you cooked them. that was my mom’s specialty, serving flavorless nutritionless slop and telling me what an asshole i was for not wanting to eat it. i had no issue eating veggies during holidays… because we actually used fresh ones…

        my nephews eat vegetables no problem. because they taste good and are fresh and actually have vitamins.

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        I cannot stress this enough. Do not kill Hitler after 1925. Once he’s started his ascent to power the train is moving and all you can do now is change the conductor. As it happens Hitler wasn’t the best conductor. Once the war starts he’s the best person for the allies to be in charge of Germany.

        Kill Hitler before he goes to jail and writes that fucking book.

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          Oh I mean what if we just like making the successful artist buy all of his stuff start displaying it build up his confidence would that work?

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            He was a piece of shit from his younger days. He’d just be evil in other ways.

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    In the 2016 show 11.22.63, Jake Epping, a recently divorced English teacher from Maine discovers that his friend’s diner had a portal that allows him to travel back to 1963.

    Jake uses this portal to travel back in time to try to save Kenedy from being assassinated. His friend had done the same, though it was stated in passing that he also used it to by meat on the cheap for his burgers at the diner.

    This is to say that the diner owner had it right. Fuck Kennedy, I’m getting those 1963 groceries with the good fats.

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    Keep in mind that people made a lot less back then, so the groceries weren’t as affordable as they appear 40 years later. and you can’t tap your smartphone to pay, so you might run into some trouble. Even modern cash wouldn’t work back then, unless you play all in one dollar bills. Fives, tens, 20s, 50s, and 100s have all changed. People in the 1980s would think you’re playing with monopoly money.

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        Not that easy. Even back in the 80s, they frequently wrote your drivers license number down on the back, especially at chain businesses like supermarkets

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            Your drivers license number never changes. Those records are also permanent. So, yeah, that would be a problem for you in the future.

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              And for driver’s licenses that won’t even be issued for another 20 years? It’s not very useful information if it doesn’t exist yet.

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          A 1980s driver license, the peak of anti forgery technology.getting a Time Machine and check book is easy, but forging a drivers license from the 80s - impossible.

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            And it would almost certainly cost you more than whatever you were paying for groceries. Not a particularly wise investment.

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          It was easy to fake an identity back then. Nothing was computerized or tracked. Just get a birth certificate from a baby who died around the time of your birth, and you could get a Social Security card, a Driver’s License, and a whole new identity.

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            Nothing about that was easy. It may not have been as difficult as it is now, but it still wasn’t “easy”.

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              It wasn’t that hard. Spend a couple hours in the children’s section of a cemetery in some midsize Midwest city, and you’d have a list of names of babies, who most likely died right in that very county. Request a copy of a birth certificate from the local county offices. Use that to apply for a Social Security Card, and use that and the birth certificate to get a driver’s license.

              Most of it has to be done through the mail, so it will take a while, but that’s the worst of it.

              Can’t do that today, though. They’ve locked down birth certificates pretty well, it would be hard to get your mitts on one. These days they tend to just steal someone else’s identity, and live parallel lives with someone else.

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                You just described to me how it’s extremely difficult and requires a lot of effort.

                When I had a racket making fake IDs in the 90s, I didn’t go through a fraction of that much trouble, and they came out looking perfect. Because I figured out the algorithm by which New York State makes ID numbers. It wasn’t difficult. The number corresponds to several different pieces of information on the license itself. And with Photoshop, I just put your picture in there.

                No traveling to a midsize Midwest city, no trolling cemeteries for dead children, no interstate identity and Social Security fraud required. And it took about 15 minutes to do.

                And even then, I wouldn’t call that “pretty easy”

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                  Yeah, that was life before the Internet. You actually had to do stuff. You couldn’t just click a few keys, and get what you want.

                  Still, to create an entirely new identity, and disappear? Today, you couldn’t do it all. A little legwork and a few months of waiting for mail isn’t that much to ask.

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    It might be hard to believe but some things were worse back then in terms of quality and choice.

    Potato chips or crisps are an example of this. Today they’re both better and there’s far more choice. I don’t find there to be a whole lot of difference in quality of fresh produce either but choices of both where to get it from and the range available is greatly improved.

    Things like confectionery (especially chocolate) and processed foods are way worse though.

    Mileage may vary elsewhere, I’m in Australia.

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    That is one of the set ups in 11/22/63. A guy was buying all the food for his diner by going back in time.

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    I vividly remember my mother griping about how expensive everything had become and asking how anybody was supposed to afford that. Some things just never change.

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      people’s perception of cost is highly relative.

      people love to romanticize stuff without doing any true cost comparisons.

      like how bad the environment was in the 1980s compared to today. or how expensive electronics were, and how unsafe cars were (and many were still using lead gas). and how bad nutrition and healthcare was. my dad had a massive heart attack in 2002 and lived another 10 years, in 1985 he’d have died on the spot because the surgery he needed didn’t exist yet. Let’s not even talk about the massive crime problem in the 1980s… and how anyone with any money refused to live in an urban area due to it.

      life is generally way safer, cleaner, and healthier now and we have so much more access to improve our lives than we did in the 1980s. but nobody wants to talk about that. just be outraged at the cheapness of groceries and housing.

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    Unfortunately this is how fascism starts.

    We can fix the system, but instead fascists use the excuse of poverty or a broken system to gain power.

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      Literally how hitler became popular in Germany. He basically said “your lives are shit, this country should be ashamed of how poor it’s gotten, but I’m here now to improve everyones lives, and blame it on someone who isn’t you”.

      And people said “Yeah, that guy isn’t afraid to tell the truth!”

      History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.

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        The only reason not to kill baby Hitler is because his administration was somewhat incompetent… Someone far more skilled could rise up if he isn’t the one to do it and commit even more atrocities.

        Otherwise, baby hitler getting thrown off the building. Every time.

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          And the chance that it will erase yourself from the timeline is very high.

          Changing huge events like this will have all kinds of secodary and ripple effects creating a world fundamentaly different from the one we know. Nobody knows how good or bad such a world would be.

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        “What i want to hear” always wins over truth, even if the former makes absolutely no sense.

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          I mean…to be fair, he did achieve all his promises. He got people back to work, making living wages.

          There’s just this HUGE astrict next to that statement that he did so by murdering millions of people, thus creating a demand for jobs. He also only counted German born white heterosexual males. Sure, unemployment was virtually nonexistant, but women, gays, mentally challenged, other races all were not included in the employment pool.

          And the jobs they held were manufacturing war efforts. Whether that was building tanks, making food rations, drilling for oil, it all paid a living wage, and they got to blame someone who wasn’t them.

          You ALWAYS have to look for the astrict. It’s like the terms and conditions of the monkeys paw.

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              Dammit. I typed that, and then said “no…that don’t look right…”

              Then I typed “asterict”, and said “That don’t look right either…”

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                I once got hung up on the word fire for a few minutes. My brain refused to accept that it wasn’t:

                Fi - Er

                It’s so much more logical, but didn’t look right, for some reason: Fier.

                Maybe I’m describing the time I unknowingly had a stroke idk.

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            They did it by both stealing from the people who weren’t them and financial fraud.

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            They also tanked the economy and had to go to war to stave off the impending collapse.

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        They also said “This guy really cares about Germany”, which is getting harder for Magats to pretend everyday.

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    Have you been watching Supermarket Sweep?

    Which of these costs more than $1: Jiffy Pop, Pledge, or Rice a Roni, the San Francisco treat?

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    Doesn’t work in my country, because there were different currencies during the 80s (current one would have no value) and it was a period oh high economic instability and poverty

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      Even in the United States, all of the paper money looks very different than it used to in the 1980s except for the one dollar bill. Trying to use today’s money in the past wouldn’t work in a lot of places.