Keep in mind that people made a lot less back then, so the groceries weren’t as affordable as they appear 40 years later. and you can’t tap your smartphone to pay, so you might run into some trouble. Even modern cash wouldn’t work back then, unless you play all in one dollar bills. Fives, tens, 20s, 50s, and 100s have all changed. People in the 1980s would think you’re playing with monopoly money.
Not that easy. Even back in the 80s, they frequently wrote your drivers license number down on the back, especially at chain businesses like supermarkets
It was easy to fake an identity back then. Nothing was computerized or tracked. Just get a birth certificate from a baby who died around the time of your birth, and you could get a Social Security card, a Driver’s License, and a whole new identity.
It wasn’t that hard. Spend a couple hours in the children’s section of a cemetery in some midsize Midwest city, and you’d have a list of names of babies, who most likely died right in that very county. Request a copy of a birth certificate from the local county offices. Use that to apply for a Social Security Card, and use that and the birth certificate to get a driver’s license.
Most of it has to be done through the mail, so it will take a while, but that’s the worst of it.
Can’t do that today, though. They’ve locked down birth certificates pretty well, it would be hard to get your mitts on one. These days they tend to just steal someone else’s identity, and live parallel lives with someone else.
You just described to me how it’s extremely difficult and requires a lot of effort.
When I had a racket making fake IDs in the 90s, I didn’t go through a fraction of that much trouble, and they came out looking perfect. Because I figured out the algorithm by which New York State makes ID numbers. It wasn’t difficult. The number corresponds to several different pieces of information on the license itself. And with Photoshop, I just put your picture in there.
No traveling to a midsize Midwest city, no trolling cemeteries for dead children, no interstate identity and Social Security fraud required. And it took about 15 minutes to do.
Yeah, that was life before the Internet. You actually had to do stuff. You couldn’t just click a few keys, and get what you want.
Still, to create an entirely new identity, and disappear? Today, you couldn’t do it all. A little legwork and a few months of waiting for mail isn’t that much to ask.
Yeah, that was life before the Internet. You actually had to do stuff. You couldn’t just click a few keys, and get what you want.
Literally, nobody said that. And you’re also making my point that it would be a huge pain in the ass, not “easy“.
Still, to create an entirely new identity, and disappear? Today, you couldn’t do it all. A little legwork and a few months of waiting for mail isn’t that much to ask.
I wouldn’t know, and that’s not what we’re discussing here. And, once again, you’ve made my point for me that it wouldn’t be “easy“, it would be a gigantic pain in the ass.
A 1980s driver license, the peak of anti forgery technology.getting a Time Machine and check book is easy, but forging a drivers license from the 80s - impossible.
Keep in mind that people made a lot less back then, so the groceries weren’t as affordable as they appear 40 years later. and you can’t tap your smartphone to pay, so you might run into some trouble. Even modern cash wouldn’t work back then, unless you play all in one dollar bills. Fives, tens, 20s, 50s, and 100s have all changed. People in the 1980s would think you’re playing with monopoly money.
Bring a fake checkbook, fraud was a lot easier back in the '80s.
Not that easy. Even back in the 80s, they frequently wrote your drivers license number down on the back, especially at chain businesses like supermarkets
Oh no, not my drivers license from the future
Your drivers license number never changes. Those records are also permanent. So, yeah, that would be a problem for you in the future.
And for driver’s licenses that won’t even be issued for another 20 years? It’s not very useful information if it doesn’t exist yet.
It was easy to fake an identity back then. Nothing was computerized or tracked. Just get a birth certificate from a baby who died around the time of your birth, and you could get a Social Security card, a Driver’s License, and a whole new identity.
Nothing about that was easy. It may not have been as difficult as it is now, but it still wasn’t “easy”.
It wasn’t that hard. Spend a couple hours in the children’s section of a cemetery in some midsize Midwest city, and you’d have a list of names of babies, who most likely died right in that very county. Request a copy of a birth certificate from the local county offices. Use that to apply for a Social Security Card, and use that and the birth certificate to get a driver’s license.
Most of it has to be done through the mail, so it will take a while, but that’s the worst of it.
Can’t do that today, though. They’ve locked down birth certificates pretty well, it would be hard to get your mitts on one. These days they tend to just steal someone else’s identity, and live parallel lives with someone else.
You just described to me how it’s extremely difficult and requires a lot of effort.
When I had a racket making fake IDs in the 90s, I didn’t go through a fraction of that much trouble, and they came out looking perfect. Because I figured out the algorithm by which New York State makes ID numbers. It wasn’t difficult. The number corresponds to several different pieces of information on the license itself. And with Photoshop, I just put your picture in there.
No traveling to a midsize Midwest city, no trolling cemeteries for dead children, no interstate identity and Social Security fraud required. And it took about 15 minutes to do.
And even then, I wouldn’t call that “pretty easy”
Yeah, that was life before the Internet. You actually had to do stuff. You couldn’t just click a few keys, and get what you want.
Still, to create an entirely new identity, and disappear? Today, you couldn’t do it all. A little legwork and a few months of waiting for mail isn’t that much to ask.
Literally, nobody said that. And you’re also making my point that it would be a huge pain in the ass, not “easy“.
I wouldn’t know, and that’s not what we’re discussing here. And, once again, you’ve made my point for me that it wouldn’t be “easy“, it would be a gigantic pain in the ass.
A 1980s driver license, the peak of anti forgery technology.getting a Time Machine and check book is easy, but forging a drivers license from the 80s - impossible.
And it would almost certainly cost you more than whatever you were paying for groceries. Not a particularly wise investment.
It doesn’t matter, your Time Machine doesn’t need drivers license.
I dunno, it was pretty easy to do it.