Venezuela has accused Donald Trump of making a “colonialist threat” after he said the airspace around the country should be considered closed.
The country’s foreign ministry called Trump’s comments “another extravagant, illegal and unjustified aggression against the Venezuelan people”.
The US does not legally have the authority to close another country’s airspace, but Trump’s online post could lead to travel uncertainty and deter airlines from operating there.
Thr anti-war candidate, according to the nyt and wapo opinion sections
It Is a colonialist threat
Iraq War: Arepas Edition
He’s desperate to use anything he can to declare martial law, either by triggering mass anti-war protests or simply using the war as an excuse to suspend elections.
Don’t worry everyone. Some democrat will post a very safe and polite tweet soon.
They write a sternly worded letter.
what the fuck
Oh, Mr Nobel peace prize is just grouchy.
Sooo… Venezuela might be the 51st state in the USA soon?
Just so it’s clear, Venezuela has ample oil, and holds one of the world’s top ten supplies of fresh water.
Does the Swiss based Nestle want the water for their plastic bottles?
Didn’t they also heavily develop a lithium extraction industry in the last decade or so?
i think they have 2nd highest amount of oil/gas deposit outside of the ME.
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Well, this is the new world order now. This is what Russia drove the world into: it’s now ok for larger countries to just annex (parts of) smaller countries.
If other nations don’t like it, just hang on to it until enough people forget that you didn’t own it in the first place.
Russia is a genocidal gangster petro-state, led by a criminal wanted by the ICC, that should be kicked out of Ukraine, but credit where credit is due: the most recent era of great power military adventurism started when the US ignored the UN and international law to invade Iraq in 2003. So if we want to talk about who drove the world in this shit, the answer is clearly the USA.
Israel is a fan of this method as well.
Pretty much what is happening in the Middle East right now too. And mind you if Venezuela didn’t have oil, the US wouldn’t care at all.
Yeah, and also that one (at least the latest escalation) happened after Russia normalized it. Also a possibility that Russia made it happen to make people get distracted from Ukraine.
Except that’s only true if you just ignore history. Which is something you seem pretty hell-bent on doing so.
I’m old enough to remember when trump would pretend to be opposed to foreign military adventures. He literally built his political career on shitting on the neocons that launched us into illegal wars like what we did in Iraq.
You’re not wrong. But what is missing is all the cult building that he did since them. He built his entire political career on mentioning things other politicians refused to mention and then gaining loyalty for it. While, at the same time, literally doing nothing about any of the popular ideas he mentioned.
Im certain the nobel commitee is currently scrambling how to not give him an award without triggering an international incident.
And the actions surrounding Venzuela kinda prove that Trump is willing to go to war to receive his peace price.
The post above this was:
As Epstein files release looms, questions abound on what happens next: ‘Possibilities are endless’
he using nixons method, go to war with drugs/vietnam, in order distract from his political problems, its a time honored tradition amongst conservatives.
Nixon’s war on drugs was for voter disenfranchisement, not distraction.
The war in Vietnam was for the US’s absolutely rabid anti-communism and racist yellow peril
If the prediction markets weren’t all owned by Trump and his cronies I would bet that boots go on the ground whatever day they are supposed to turn over the files.
I’m ignorant of the culture and structure of these markets still.
Would the market have to set up a bet for this? Can you propose it? How would it work?
There’s Bookmakers, who are professionals responsible for estimating likelihood of events using maths
But they can become corrupted, or simply told “you’re not allowed to accept bets on this subject, ever, or lose your license”
Sounds familiar.
It’s unregulated bookies. You would be better off betting a stranger in a pub.
Its like 90% timing of politics too. So since they are all either owner by Trump and his inner circle or are friends with them they can just call Trump up to delay or accelerate something a day of the odds get too lopsided.
Accurate and undeniable.
Wouldn’t ‘Imperialist’ be more accurate than ‘Colonist’ though?
I don’t think Trump wants a new American Colony in Venezuela, he just wants their resources and (unpaid) labor.
It’s close enough geographically that I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s an attempt to FREEDOM them into being the 51st State
What’s even the thought there, you shot boats claiming they had drugs on them, are they claiming every plane is also carrying drugs? Why wouldn’t they just intercept them at the runway in the U.S. to sieze the drugs if any of it was drugs coming to the U.S. supposedly?
Precursor to an invasion. It’s basically a warning to the rest of the world: all flights going to, from, or through Venezuelan air space would do well to divert around it because soon that air space is going to be a war zone.
Because it was never about drugs.
Well, it definitely wasn’t about the friends we made along the way. We’re actively trying to backstab each and every one.
They’re trying to put all the fish in one barrel. They’re doing a similar tactic with trans people in the US by fucking with passports
Agreed. And why not just intercept the boats too? More proof that it wasn’t about the drugs.
I’m sure you’ll figure it out when they start ‘finding drugs’ on their domestic enemies.
Why wouldn’t they just intercept them at the runway
Gotta justify $850 billion military budget somehow, plus Donny and Petey get a hate boner blowing up brown people
What’s even the thought there
There will be airfights and Trump is minimizing civilian casualities.
Trump is minimizing civilian casualties
Hahaha. Right.
As he literally murders civilians in international waters
Airfights? You mean an invasion by the United States trying to wage a massacre on a sovereign nation for nothing other than trying to rob the working class and give money to the rich?
He couldn’t give a fuck about civilians. He’s a murderer, a rapist, a fraud, and he prays on the misfortuned
China closes the airspace over Taiwan
Has a different meaning to everyone when you change the country names
I don’t think it does.
Honestly this comment is just so confusing and baffling I’m just dumbfounded. What on earth do you mean? The relationship between China and taiwan is nothing like the relationship between the US and Venezuela
Edit: even if it was…why would it just be presumed to be cool that China close the airspace around Taiwan? Wtf
If the usa invades sovereign and peaceful Venezuela there should be sanctions and retribution, the same way as Russia invading Ukraine. What is missing in the current situation is condemning the usa the same way as when China talks about Taiwan; two standards.
I feel like I get it now. Of course it’s bad that the us does this. It seemed so obvious I didn’t think that would be the point
A lot of people on Lemmy have an issue with holding that two things can be wrong at the same time.
Henry Rollins would be shaking his head at your lack of understanding
That’s rather the point? See how ridiculous is sounds in a different context?
To me it doesn’t. It is still bad. At least with China and Taiwan we know what they want, with Venezuela it is just speculation. Nobody believes it is drugs.
My speculation is that he isn’t planning to invade and this is to push Venezuela and other Latin American countries to develop closer relationship with Russia. He did it with Iran, China, India and others.
Speculation? Let me speculate it’s the same reason as Iraq 2, Iraq 1, Iran (Shah)…
I’m saying that previously at least there was some official reason given. This time they don’t even bother with it.
We know what they want in Venezuela too. It’s their oil reserves.
It’s also to reduce Russia’s influence in South America.
Perhaps go with the original.
Russia illegally annexes Crimea.
Israel colonizes Gaza.
Just ml and hexbear on that one
Why? Venezuela is not a portion of the USA. This is straight US invasion. Like Zionists inventing “Israel” and invading Palestine.
Taiwan has never been ruled by the PRC though
Sorry, that’s just now how politics works anywhere. Do you consider with political party “ruled” which states or cities or islands in the US? When the Confederacy seceded from the Union did that suddenly mean they were no longer legitimately part of the US?
Taiwan was part of China, there was a civil war. The losers of the war retreated to Taiwan, and then the US and UK sent warships to block the victors from bringing the losers to justice. Taiwan at that point was still part of China, the country, but now had its own fascist government prosecuting the White Terror and killing hundreds of thousands of people while the US and UK protected them, and then integrated them into the global economy. At no point did Taiwan secede, at no point did the concept of the nation of China have its borders redrawn, nor did the nation of China declare a separation between the island the mainland.
Hell, even the fascist mass murderers on Taiwan said it - there is only one China and Taiwan is an island province of that country. And world leaders agree that’s the case.
But was historically part of China prior to the formation of the CCP.
So it’s still different than US/Venezuela
and alaska was never part of the 13 colonies. so?
So you mean it’s exactly like China and Taiwan?
Taiwan claims sovereignty over mainland China, I doubt Venezuela does the same with the US.
I don’t think it actually does claim that.
The Taiwan government today is relying on strategic ambiguity, neither saying it is an independent country nor saying it is part of China. However, the KMT which prosecuted the White Terror under the protection of US and UK warships claimed the mainland for decades.
How? Taiwan is China.
That is true, Taiwan is the real China. But I don’t think we were arguing about names of countries here.
Taiwan is a province of China.
China is the real china, taiwan being an offshoot of an exile. but yeah. no nations should exist to begin with anyway.
