The US military would see that coming before they even left European ports.
The US military would see that coming before they even left European ports.


A thawing Artic changes the whole game up there. Plus, prospecting and mining become easier if 1,000’ of ice melts.


I can’t believe anyone thinks Trump is still in charge. The only thing anyone should be discussing is his dementia. Can you imagine if the President of the United States was constantly drunk, black out drunk on his bad days?


At this point, his security is no doubt up there with Putin’s. Also, he needs extra guarding on his bad dementia days. Watch him wander off from Japan’s Prime Minister. His mind is gone and he is under near absolute control.


Bingo! And I’ve commented many times that global warming makes mining and prospecting easier, and year-round Artic shipping lanes will soon be a thing.


Commented yesterday that America may someday build an Iron Curtain across the Atlantic, but you got me thinking Europe should lead the charge on that.
Expel all Americans, close all embassies, shut down American social media, cut all American imports, do it now. Our Homeland Security Advisor was on TV two nights ago saying, “We’re taking Greenland, it’s ours, nothing anybody is going to do about it.” What more impetus does Europe require to act now?!


Greenlanders can’t fight the US. They number less than 60,000 souls, a third of those in a single city. Of those willing and able to fight, they’re armed with shotguns and hunting rifles. Worst of all, you can’t fight a guerilla war in the Artic, even deserts are more human friendly. They’d have to magically transform into snow Freman to keep up a fight.
The EU’s choice to stand back on the Ukraine war is exactly what will embolden Trump’s handlers to take Greenland.


I’ve made 100 comments, but here’s another:
As global warming advances, Greenland becomes prime real estate. Prospecting and mining will become easy and practical and year-round Artic shipping lanes will open. Not to mention it’s a great place from which to project naval and air power.


No prediction on when the US takes Greenland, but it’s happening as soon as the administration feels they have Venezuela under control. They’re not repeating Hitler’s mistake of not driving for the Russian oil fields before opening more fronts.


I agree with every bit of that except ascribing these actions to Trump’s wants and vision. He would be perfectly happy getting fatter, holding rallies and grifting from the Oval Office. These actions are put into his head by handlers such as Miller, who’s the most visible.
Trump is the perfect tool, a malignant narcissist fallen to dementia. He’s easier to control than a toddler. All they have to do is keep him off camera on his bad days and let him have his way with meaningless stuff like renaming the Kennedy Center.
tl;dr: Trump is in control of very little. While we point fingers at him, the real powers behind the throne are moving fast and mostly undercover.


That first sentence is likely my answer! People are identifying with the memes, therefore they feel they belong to that group when they may truly not. I am not a smart man.
As to medication, LOL. My ADHD best friend and his ADHD wife brought some Ritalin home one afternoon. Very excited, they invited me to join in snorting a line. I was bouncing off the walls like I was on meth. They got calm and were very happy to just sit on the couch and talk.
Another funny one; When we were 17 a salesman in the department store offered us coffee he was selling. Gf: “No, that will put me to sleep.” Say what?! True enough. We met and lived with each other 10-years later, coffee knocked her out cold.
But what really turned my head was seeing my 6-yo daughter on medicine the first time. She never struck me as “abnormal” until I saw her on speed. We watched her literally stop and smell the flowers.


Didn’t want to say it, but it sure seems trendy to me. Quick example from my daughter:
She had zero issues with eye contact until very recently. She reads memes telling her eye contact is a problem for people like her. Now she has problem.
I am NOT saying that issue is fake, but when a child is constantly bombarded with, “This is how you are!”, they become that way.
Part of my thoughts in the OP are, “We’re making normal behavior out to be abnormal and slapping a label on it. And perhaps we’re making it worse than need be.”
My mother constantly told me I was sickly as a child, and I was constantly sick. First year of college (without her influence) was my first year without a single illness, not even a mild cold. Miracle! Wait…


If I took her ADHD drugs, I’d be on speed. She takes them, she calms down. Yes, it’s speed, I’ve done loads, all kinds, I get it. Why else you think said drugs are so highly controlled? Shit’s nearly like meth to “normal” people.
Are you telling me to educate myself and implying there’s a genetic component to autism/ADHD? Imma need to see your notes.


That is starting to make sense. Yet I’ve never met a human that experiences these things non-stop. My daughter can be “off” sometimes, but she’s mostly not. And yes, I understand it’s a spectrum, there are degrees.


Think NATO will cross the Atlantic and do something about it? Serious question. You’re talking capability, and you’re probably right on the question of winter fighting (damned interesting!), but I’m talking will.
But let’s drop the comparison to Vietnam, or any other American fuck ups. To get into such another quagmire, NATO would have to get troops there in the first place. And again, not like they can hide in Greenland’s vast jungles. Honestly, I don’t know of a fair wartime comparison? Who has invaded a monstrous rock and who has tried to defend it across an ocean? We’re all in new territory, and maybe that’s the scariest thing.
For all intents and purposes, Greenland in an uninhabited rock, on our side of the world, with strategic minerals and positioning, and NATO has done jack shit to defend their own eastern front. And let’s not forget Putin pushing for all this, and getting his way. We’re taking it and I am scared shitless of what comes next.


Yes, it’s Putin who wants this! But taking Greenland is still in America’s best interest, from a strategic point of view, current world politics and near-term consequences be damned.
As to the future of America, I’m starting to see the light, starting to see how truly dangerous these people’s long-term vision is. Trump is all simple-minded greed, but Project 2025 and the like is far worse.
These people truly believe in a Nazi vision of a 3rd Reich. They want to etch their names in history books. They truly think they’re doing what’s right for America, now and in the future. Don’t all dictators?
My only hope is that, like Hitler, giddy on success, they bite off more than they can chew.


The Bay of Pigs was nothing like an all out invasion. The idea was to give impetus to Cuban rebels, let them continue the fight. If the fascists want Cuba, it’s theirs.


^ Points out the obvious.
Lemmy: Where’s my fuck you button?!


Venezuela’s oil fields have been on America’s radar long before Trump. The only things Trump is thinking of is crap like a ballroom and renaming the Kennedy Center.
As you say, the rest has been jammed in his brain.
Yep. The US can’t exert real control without boots on the ground. Boots who would, once again, find themselves fighting angry, and well armed, citizens.