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  • Yes. People have been correcting him on the Mac OS thing. Which you said was irrelevant several times.

    Yes, you on the other hand consider it relevant, yet you don’t have an issue with him making that point but with me.

    I, remember, said it is not. Because again, this is not about what you like, it’s about what is true.

    I answered on whether he was trying to justify Microsoft’s actions or not. In that regard it does not matter whether it true or not, him bringing it up is an attempt to normalize Microsoft’s actions. What would matter is him knowingly lying about it instead of being wrong but I am not going to accuse him of that.

    On that note, the breakdown of what is sent, how and when is absolutely dependent on your account login. If it was not then there would be nothing to complain about. That doesn’t mean they don’t send anything without an account (unless you’re not online at all, obviously), but the payload of information will be different and in some cases some calls may be dependent on you having an ID in the first place. Plus there’s the question of whether unsigned users leave any connection to the account that activated the Windows install. Which I don’t know about and you clearly don’t care about.

    I 'd rather disable telemetry totally. Windows does have installation wide keys, even if Microsoft right now does use it to connect accounts to local accounts they can at will.

    I do agree with you that “I installed Linux for my grandma” is not “helping”, either, but I didn’t say I do that, either.

    It helped my family just as installing windows for my friends helps my friends if not my ego.


  • Yes to all that!

    Everybody is biased but usually the deeper the connection one has to a side the more biased he is. I 've been just a user of Linux since 2010, he worked for Microsoft for longer.

    If you really are interested in accurate information, you are not very good at it. People are disputing his statements on MacOS in this very thread, on the OP in fact.

    Telemetry does not depend on using a remote account, if you don’t disable the relevant settings and services windows will still send data to Microsoft. Obviously a Microsoft account provides more identifying information to Microsoft.

    I wonder why most people, according to you at least, warned that Microsoft would disable previous methods but Plummer doesn’t.

    As for all that ‘agenda, hardcore, uncompromising’ bullshit, I 've only installed Linux on my own and my immediate family’s computers, cause they are the computers I will have to fix (or fix) if they are not working. I have installed Windows many more times both on my own machines as well on friends etc because that’s what they wanted. There’s no point in pushing stuff on people.

    You on the other hand seem to think I should be helping with something, presumably something you are pushing for?

    Finally I did not post any misinformation.




  • I mean he used to work there, so yeah?

    He is biased.

    The factual accuracy of his statements about MacOS is irrelevant to whether he is making excuses or not. Their relevancy to you switching to another OS is another issue.

    I don’t care about MacOS not having the same issue because I don’t own a Mac nor do I plan on buying one. Nobody even asks me to run MacOS software or help them with their Mac. Windows is unfortunately much more pervasive and unavoidable.

    The major issue with these workarounds is that they are presented as permanent solutions. They are not, just like Microsoft took away OOBE or whatever they did, they can also disable local accounts in the future. Kicking the can down the road will not work forever.