The Trump administration is telling states they will be shut out of a $42 billion broadband deployment fund if they set the rates that Internet service providers receiving subsidies are allowed to charge people with low incomes.

The latest version of the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA) FAQ on the grant program, released today, is a challenge to states considering laws that would force Internet providers to offer cheap plans to people who meet income eligibility guidelines. One state already has such a law: New York requires ISPs with over 20,000 customers in the state to offer $15 broadband plans with download speeds of at least 25Mbps, or $20-per-month service with 200Mbps speeds.

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    Back in high school, I learned that the House of Representatives controlled the governments’ purse strings. When did that change to the President controlling? Granted that the current batch of republican reprobates in the House would likely do whatever Trump says, but they don’t even get asked or vote on it now.

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    This will most likely hurt rural voters, who overwhelmingly supported Donny Dipshit, the most, given the expense of expanding Internet availability to rural communities.

    It really is hard to overstate how badly the average Republican voter shot himself in the vote. Not that they care.

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    You stupid fucks here were crying so hard about “Genocide” and Killer Kamala that you let an actual threat to the world gain the most powerful position in the world. Fuck all of you. This is your fault

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      Yes, its the voters fault.

      Its not Biden or Kamala’s fault, for supporting the genocide, for prioritizing arming a genocide over domestic affairs and issues, for prioritizing Israel over America.

      God I wish I had this level of intellect. Must be so nice to not have to deal with pesky things like critical thinking or thoughts.

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        Yes yes it is the voters fault. (Not an American, just see too much of their elections )

        Trump was much worse than either Biden or Harris would have been. Harris did repeatedly speak out against the abuse in Palestine and claimed a 2 state solution was the only way forward.

        Trump? Literally supporting Israel and wants resorts where the Palestinians are. This is madness to let the voters of the hook for this

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      Lets not forget the waves of grown-ass men who raged and rallied every time a video game developer like, made a lesbian protagonist with realistic proportions and swore to burn the world down before anyone would tell them what kinds of games they should and should not play…

      Who are now utterly and completely silent about porn controls and internet gatekeeping sweeping across the nation as a direct result of the dictator regime they memed into power.

      I genuinely would give up video games and internet browsing forever if it meant making some incels shriek in their basement that they can’t fap to My Little Pony porn anymore.

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        Trust me bro, those freaks you’re talking about will find their MLP Filth (no judgment) regardless. The ironic thing about all these draconian right wing censorship attempts is that it will most likely squeeze out major companies from profits while the high seas gain an ever increasing “market share.” It’s never been easier, and they’ll never be able to stop it.

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          they’ll never be able to stop it.

          I hope they make a strong attempt at trying so that maybe the basement dwellers will put their Guy Fawkes masks on and actually do something productive finally.

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      Shame genocide is so unpopular with anyone who might vote democrat. If only someone tried to tell the dems that doing fuckall to improve the material conditions of your constituents, expanding republican policies we all agreed were bad when Trump did it, and sending the cops to kick the shit out of the politically activated and organized youth would decrease voter turnout.

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        The problem wasn’t voter turnout. I get a lot of hate for saying this, but facts bear out. The last three election cycles had the highest voter turnout and the highest youth voter turnout in American history.

        This means one or more of several things:

        1. Genocide was just a performative stance for most voters and they would have voted how they voted no matter what, it’s just a validation for hating Harris so much for aesthetic or tonal reasons that they couldn’t put a finger on.

        2. The election was rigged in some way, which is very possible but not in the overt way we tend to think of. If you combine enough small-scale tactics of voter-suppression in key areas by slim margins, combined with tomfoolery in voting machines in key areas by just barely enough margins again that enough areas pushed red, and of course large-scale social manipulation thats been at play for years and years now that has given many people the validation to hate minorities and women enough that even people of color voted against their best interest.

        3. People have let their fucking brains ooze out their goddamn ears across the whole Western population. We don’t see how bad the situation really is, because the people who browse forums are NOT the people who drive to work every day listening to AM radio and working 6 days a week and only get their news from Facebook for an hour every other Sunday night. But it’s bad, it’s very, very bad and I am worried not enough of the thinking people see just how dumb and confused the average median voter is. They literally had no idea if there was a meaningful difference between people like Biden, Harris or Trump. There has been waves of post-election exit-polling and the number one issue people cared about was the price of groceries and they heard Trump scream about it and Harris deliver lines that “sounded like Biden, and he was the one in charge when prices went up.”

        4. The Democrat party broadly is not an opposition party and many people sense it. They are the enemy character in the WWE spectacle narrative that people are engaged with, and Trump and his band of overtly evil nazis and fascists are more “cool” and people love to hate them even as they hate to love them, because we are unevolved creatures that care more for stories than outcomes.

        I don’t think there’s fixing this. I think we’re kind of fucked for at least a generation or two, and that’s assuming it shifts back towards progress at some point. Short of a large-scale disaster that literally cuts off people’s food and luxuries, we have to hunker down and survive. Or leave the country, but the problem is spreading.

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        Who’s a genocider? Why isn’t anyone calling Trump that but they call kamilla that. When she was never in power. Vice president doesn’t really do anything.

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          Because it’s too depressing to them to admit both “sides” we have are equally against the will of the people and 100% OWNED by the ultra-rich who OWN - in the most literal sense - the country at this point. We - as in the people being a nation represented in government - fucking LOST.

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      Turns out if the worst that can happen is a judge saying “Hey don’t do that” a few weeks later, you have unlimited authority.

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    Aus we are going to get 2g up 200mb down in sept. Currently its a joke of 1g up 40mb down for $110 a month. But the reaosn for that is 2013 and the coalition being shit heels and the australian voter also being a shit heel

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      I get 200mb down, 1 carrier pigeon up, and a static IP for $150 in the US. I’d burn my moms house down for those speeds.

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      I’m paying $80 a month for a gig, it only comes bundled with a phone plan, a cable TV plan, and a gaggle of ad-enabled streaming services. Most days I get 200mbps down, and about 80 up. That’s the best I could get.

      No, I don’t live in bumfuck nowhere, I live in one of the 20 most populous cities in the US.

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    Pay higher so we can be tracked like in FL, where you have to show ID to watch porn?

    What a fucking joke

    BTW, whats the typical price for internet access these days in the US? Havent been there since 2024.

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      I pay $140/mo for ~300 down / 100 up. I found another provider with similar bandwidth for $50/mo, but I self-host a couple things, and they wouldn’t assign me an IPv6 prefix or allow port forwarding. Also, my son complained because his games had 70 ms ping on the less expensive provider.

      Edit: I’m in a big city, I think it’s even worse in rural areas.

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          I already have my own router, but they do NAT from the modem with no way to switch to bridge mode.

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            Ah, fucking assholes.

            I had to call my ISP because I specifically requested a modem only, no router, and they gave me one of their stupid locked-down combo units.

            If you bitch enough, they will relent.

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              This was T-Mobile 5G internet, and they only had one modem available. I never bothered looking for my own 5G modem (assuming T-Mobile would even allow BYOD), because my son was already complaining about his ping. And even then, they would still only assign a single IPv6 instead of the full /64 prefix I get with my current provider.

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        Wow. I live in Denmark and I pay 150 dollars every 4 months for 1Gb up and down.

        You guys are getting scammed in the US.

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        $90/mo for 1Gbps up and down for me in a 30k town for me. I also have two fiber providers, one cable, and wireless as options. I realize I’m more of the exception than the rule. When I first moved here, 50Mbps cable was my only option.

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        If post-forwarding is an issue, you can always use a free VPN to reach your self-hosted services. Or if you want to keep them public, you can set up yourself a relay on AWS LightSail for less than 5$/month. Or if you want to save as much as possible you can use TailScale or CloudFlare’s Zero Trust network to self-host for free using their server as a relay.

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          I’ve been port forwarding for decades at this point. I just recently found out about tunneling your traffic through relays like that. Pretty neat stuff. Glad I can finally ditch my isp and switch to another without worrying about their port forwarding policies

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        Wow. I used to pay €40/mo for my own IP address (4 and 6) until '22. All ports open as far as I tried. But the speeds were nowhere near yours. Now I moved to the countryside and I’d basically have to dig my own cable to get that. It’s all mobile broadband around here. It’s cheap enough though.

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    We’ve already paid for nationwide broadband, and the corpos took the money, did a fraction of the work, and called it done. I don’t see what this latest infusion of cash-to-corpos is going to do for the average Joe.

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      We didn’t just pay for it, we also gave up the public TV spectrum in order to make it happen. That’s why your old-school TV antennas won’t work anymore.

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        Technically the antennas work, it’s the old tuners that don’t. Plug rabbit ears into a smart TV you’ll get whatever stations are left now.

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      The USA isn’t run by or for the average Joe. Average Joes are human resources to be mined, plundered, exploited and discarded as their rulers see fit.

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    Small consolation, but I expect Trump voters will be disproportionally affected.

    The states and ISPs need to make noise about this, so MAGA knows what they’re missing.

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        Yeah, he’s not just grifting this time, he’s actively working against the American people and their interests, as well as our nations. It’s the literal definition of treason

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          There is nothing you’ve said that can’t be applied to virtually every decision he’s made since getting back into office. Plenty of it is grift. Most of it is fulfilling the wishes of giant corporations and the GOP. It just so happens that the interests of those two groups almost never align with those of the American citizens or even his most ardent supporters.

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        He= Christian Nationalists. Project 2025 didn’t come from his delusional mind, he’s just the one with the keys.

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      The (…) ISPs need to make noise about this

      Will they though? The way I see it, isn’t it much nicer for them to bag the subsidies and maximize profit.

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    Lmfao or what

    Also, this is transparently an effort to push people towards Starlink. They are trying to holistically control the flow of information to as great a proportion of the population that they can.

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      Aside from being run by an absolute asshole, the realities of the speed and lag will luckily prevent me from ever ever getting starlink.

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        Musk is an asshole, but starlink really doesn’t have issues with speed or lag, at least with my experience having it as a backup circuit in an office environment (not my decision)

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          I mean, I just ran the same test and I have 900 Mbps WiFi with 5 ms ping and symmetric upload for $70 per month for life. But importantly I also don’t fund a Nazi polluting the night sky.

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          symmetric gigabit.

          I’m honestly impressed though, if that is starlink. That said, I would never give that nation destroying douchebag my money.

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          Psssst you shouldn’t be encouraging others to use your shitty Internet provider. It’ll only make it slower for you.