Consider that many people who watched the Joker and idolize him didn’t get that the movie was speaking against the character. Fascists don’t understand camp, and so they don’t get that it’s a critique unless the director explicitly tells them so.

Surrendering power and appeasing dictators, famous for not backfiring. /s

You wouldn’t know it looking at his approval rating…

If Hillary and Cheney has anything to teach us, they roll out the disgraced politicians every 4 years to demoralize the base.

Maybe, but it’s all academic if we don’t have the power to get him nominated. I am reminded of a quip: “We elect people without power and we’re surprised that they’re powerless to change things”. That is the best case scenario if the DNC had somehow nominated Bernie. We need to build power, no matter what our strategy or objective. Highly recommend reading this over doom posting: https://wagingnonviolence.org/2024/11/10-things-to-do-if-trump-wins/

We can keep telling ourselves Mark Cuban’s “opportunity economy” was good enough but objectively it was a flop with working class voters. Either it was a messaging failure or it wasn’t populist enough, Bernie is saying it is the latter. If it was a messaging failure, then we’re likely to conclude it is because our media landscape is toxic. Bernie would agree and say that is why we need a populist message to cut through.

NAFTA and Wall Street bailouts come to mind.

In regards to Bernie, his premise is that wealth inequality is the core problem, which means tax the rich until they can’t have an outsized influence on our politics.

I think they mean voting isn’t enough and we all need to shit post harder

Sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy that ends with the least resourced groups dead. Good thing the capitalists are famously the least-strapped chuds around.

I don’t know many things but the voters are obviously to blame. We drew 100 different trolley problems and told them democracy and women’s rights were on the line. We even had Bill Clinton logically explain that Palestinians were human shields. We even had better policy even though most voters didn’t know it. I can only conclude voters are selfish and that’s why they vote against their own interests.

History starts when I say it does

When they say it’s about race, it’s about class. When they say it is about class, it’s about gender. And when they say it’s out gender, it’s about race.

Or at least that’s how it feels sometimes.

I am completely wrong and yet completely vindicated by your response.

People didn’t care enough to show up to stop forced births, you think they care about puberty blockers? Doubt.

That’s like splitting hairs over whether a abortion is banned in Texas, cuz technically it is allowed under very narrow circumstances that no hospital is willing to try.

I got the same vibe but it seems the ambiguity was a large enough liability.

I get the feeling we need to be doing the work the Democrats refused to do: creating a political mandate. Protesting is part of creating that mandate, but one thing I would like to see is the inverse of the “ground game” l; where instead of going door to door to convince people of a solution, you get them involved in the decision process.

Yeah, with those margins fine tuning Biden or Harris’s policy proposals would not have been enough. Which I think is Bernie’s point: we need something like Medicare for all or a detailed Gaza peace plan to excite the base and the non-xenophobic voters

I guess now is an appropriate time to stop empathizing with people who empathize with the victims.

Oooph, that tracts with a lot of tech companies you hear about. It does fit a pattern of spending so much time courting a base that has proven to be very misogynistic.