cross-posted from: https://piefed.zip/c/news/p/1395876/streamer-troll-johnny-somali-found-guilty-on-all-counts-sentenced-to-south-korean-prison-l
Ramsey Khalid Ismael — better known as Johnny Somali, the infamous American streamer arrested in Japan, Israel, and South Korea for his provocative behavior — has been imprisoned in South Korea.
I know this would be cruel and unusual but live stream him the entire time and donate proceeds to relevant charities.
Unusual for sure…cruel…I could maybe make arguments that it’s passable. Lol
That has to be one of the more punchable faces I have seen. And I do not advocate violence. But he might be n exception.
okay. controversial opinion time
this was all extremely dickish troll behavior but i don’t think A PRISON CAMP is necessarily the most rehabilitative experience. punitive justice doesn’t fucking work and nobody deserves to be put through A PRISON LABOR CAMP regardless of how much of an annoyance they were being
in an ideal world there would mechanisms in place to educate this fuckhead without needlessly traumatizing and brutalizing him. sensitivity training. cultural education. empathy and dignity. true justice that will actually change his behavior
but prison camp? i bet he’s gonna come outta this twice as much an enormous douchebag
I agree with your sentiment but when a human being is this antagonistic towards every country he visits then it’s justified. Definitely a slipper slope moment but just look at this:
Ismael was certain he wouldn’t be imprisoned, saying in a stream: "I know for a fact that I’m not going to go to jail. Not one day in jail. I’m going to laugh my ass off when all these motherf***ers are saying I’m going for 30 years, 20 years, five years, 10 years. I’m not even going to do one day, bro. They’ll give me a fine and say, ‘Don’t come back to Korea.’ You’re the one that’s going to look so dumb when I don’t get any jailtime or anything. Bro, I’m going to laugh like a f**king villain.
“I did go there. I recognized all the charges. I said I was guilty. I did say all that s**t because it’s going to be a fine. I’m just going to pay it and leave. You can’t go to jail for this s**t. You can’t.”
It’s so hard to be sympathetic to this piece of trash. Plus it seems like he’s not even doing 3 years. He’s fine.
Its almost impossible to have not at least sentenced him to 1 day after something like that if a prison sentence is legitimately on the table.
he has done this many times, and not in korea too.
Please… he got 6 months for all the shit he pulled. It was so much more than just dickish trolling.
He deserved far more. He got off easy. But it serves two purposes. For one, korea got their message across. Don’t come here to fuck around. And second, they don’t want to pay for him being in their prison.
In an ideal world, people don’t pull this shit to begin with. So we’re already well past an “ideal world scenario”. It’s not this guys first rodeo. These people will never learn unless they face some real, actual consequences.
Yeah. The prosecutors were pushing 3 years. I think he deserves MORE than 6 months.
I have to agree with the last guy. Ideal world, to me, means people can get the support they need to resolve their issues. Ideal isn’t utopia, it’s just as good as we should be doing as a society.
I also think people should get help to resolve their issues.
This guy’s issue is that he’s just an asshole that never faced any real consequences for his actions and therefore thinks it’s ok to go and fuck with people.
This wasn’t his first rodeo. Japan gave him a slap on the wrist and deported him. Clearly it wasn’t enough.
I don’t think expecting people to behave themselves whilst traveling is approaching utopia. That’s just common decency.
Link shared by somebody else down below, but it’s not really a labor camp as you might be thinking. It’s more of a rehabilitation into the workforce program.
https://www.corrections.go.kr/corrections_eng/1905/subview.do
He’s a douchebag that’s used to acting as such without consequences (or even with profit). A prison labor camp sounds like exactly the sort of wakeup call this guy needs
Its not about punishing the guy. It is about sending a message that this will not be tolerated. Also, different cultures are different, culturally.
different cultures are different, culturally.
i’m pretty sure torture is just as brutal in every culture. something merely being a cultural difference doesn’t immediately make it worthy of keeping around. for example, should we respect japanese culture’s weird obsession with sexualizing underage characters? NO! it being different than what we’re used to doesn’t automatically make it okay
Yea, when something that is apart of your culture causes harm to others, it shouldn’t be apart of your culture. Phase it out. Acknowledge it, but phase it out and teach why you phased it out.
We should strive for kindness and care when it comes to culture both of our own and others.
Reading more. It doesn’t sound like what type of camp I was thinking. I’m still sure it probably needs updates to ideas and whatnot, but I also don’t think punishments should be totally easy. As well as learning what got him in this hot water, he definitely deserves to harshly punished with what would best fit the crime.
The spoiler is he won’t learn the lessons he needs to learn from a labor camp. Even in the most idealized form of a labor camp.
Sadly true. I won’t lie, I hope by the thinnest of hopes that he does change. I’d never shy from someone wanting to be a better person…dependent on what they have done. But that’s just my opinion.
We just need to give those who commit crimes the tools to heal and learn from the hurt they caused. We don’t generally, and various unideal things happen after people are released from humiliating, degrading, dehumanizing, and exploitative conditions.
Not getting caught when they do their next crime or hurt the next person is likely on a lot of people’s minds. It’s happened with my sibling who just continued to escalate their behavior after every incarceration. They never learned their lesson. They never got offered real help. Their life is a revolving door of hurting others and losing their freedom for brief spells. They have no starting point to begin to understand the hurt that they routinely cause. They can’t get a job and participate in society even if they wanted to get better and do things right because they face discrimination in hiring and their opportunities are limited.
Personally, I feel that punishment just amplifies the violence and dysfunction, especially in the horrid conditions of the US prison system and forced labor camps like the story we are discussing. Being discriminated against in employment/not being offered opportunities/given a chance by society locks them into crime and destitution. I just can’t honestly imagine that brings the good out of many people…
Bad take
OTOH maybe this will ground him a bit more and he will be a more self-reflective douchebag.
I don’t know. Maybe a few weeks behind a rock with a whip behind his back might teach him to be mindful of where he is the next time he’s going to act like an idiot
there would mechanisms in place to educate
Could you imagine if he was quietly black sited and came back from lake laogai all “there is no war in ba sing se” upstanding citizen?
Also, I think this is more vocational training anyway, so probably not far off from the educational system you want anyway.
ahahahahaha
fafo
This made my day. He thought he was untouchable and now is in a forced labor camp for 6 months.
Dude is just one of the worst humans.
Forced labor camps in South Korea is just a legal term.
https://www.corrections.go.kr/corrections_eng/1905/subview.do
They’re not cracking rocks with sledgehammers in the desert.
he likely will continue doing this once he gets out, hes not unique, i remember at least 1 or 2 other influencers who are like him, that got either shot or jailed and are committed to continue the charade.
Apparently he kissed a statue of a woman that was built as a memorial to all the south Korean women that were raped by the Japanese during their colonial rule. In case anyone was wondering what he did to end up in jail.
I’m willing to bet he knew exactly what that statue was a memorial for.
“and performing lap dances on said statue” per the linked article
fuuuuk this guy
too bad it wasn’t where they cane you for stupid shit
I would watch that video
"I know for a fact that I’m not going to go to jail. Not one day in jail. I’m going to laugh my ass off when all these motherf***ers are saying I’m going for 30 years, 20 years, five years, 10 years. I’m not even going to do one day, bro. They’ll give me a fine and say, ‘Don’t come back to Korea.’ You’re the one that’s going to look so dumb when I don’t get any jailtime or anything. Bro, I’m going to laugh like a f**king villain.
amazing.
He got 6 months, so he wasn’t too far off, unfortunately.
If we’re lucky, he will annoy the wrong person and get the shit kicked out of him. Maybe he’ll learn.
at the end of the day, his only crime is being annoying. He didn’t kill someone, didn’t steal anything, etc. So 6months seems fair.
And it’s six months of hard labor without access to a smartphone. He’ll either lose his mind or actually reconsider his life choices.
Plus he had to register as a sex offender in Korea, and thus has to register in America on his return or face 10y, so who’s got money on him failing to register?
Under the Trump administration I don’t think he will have any problems with not registering.
He’s not white though
Asap Rocky wasn’t white either. You get a pass from Trump if you’re famous enough.
Norwegian philosopher Arne Ness said it best:
“There is no freedom without responsibility - in fact, the two are intrinsically the same.”
Swedish philosopher Ane Nuss once said, “pffft”.
My anus says that 12 times a day.
Only 12? amateur numbers. You need more fiber in your diet.
Norway took credit for that comment and as a result we have the “puffin”.
From the country that brought you Klarna and “The Capitalist Manifesto”, everyone.
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Good, these are the types of guys that go “It’s just a prank bro” or “It’s a social experiment” except it isn’t. It’s just you being an inconsiderate jerk.
There are a lot of enablers, the viewers that find all that bullshit funny. Guilty by association, I suppose
like, fuck people who watch these absolute shitheads, but I don’t really buy that. people look at car crashes. i don’t think reckless drivers are “enabled”.
I don’t think a car crash is an apt comparison in this case, that is usually an accident and not something easy to ignore and pretend it didn’t happen - it affects everyone who wants to use the road where the crash happened. Nobody is clapping and cheering.
What this asshole does isn’t an accident, it’s intentional. People follow him expecting bullshit and praising him for that. He’s akin to people who like to drive recklessly and post and brag about it online.
I think the viewers of streams like his should get a swift kick in the nuts or vag and maybe kept from reproducing because nobody consuming his content is a good person.
Like, you’re right the streamers getting money by acting like assholes are only making money because of the audience. Said audience members are just as shitty as people.
Hopefully they are just young and dumb and will grow up and get smarter. But yeah, they could just be shit.
Yeah, still doesn’t deserve slavery for it
I interpret this as a nastier form of community service. He didn’t get the three year sentence, he got six months. He also partly brought this upon himself, as per the article when he was bragging online about how he wouldn’t serve a day in jail. They decided to make an example of him. Also, any South Koreans that I have met are unfailingly nice people, but in their core, they are a hard and pragmatic people.
You’re defending slavery here. It’s the same problem with the US system.
I’m not saying prison time isn’t warranted, just that slavery is not an appropriate form of punishment or rehabilitation.
That’s the tricky part about having morals is they extend to people I don’t like like this guy.
I’m not defending slavery at all. I’m just attempting to explain why it is. Attempting moral relativism, because South Korea has a unique history and people which led to the way they interpret their punishment system.
You must understand the American South had a unique history and people which led to the way they…
My wife and stepdaughter are from Africa, I understand the racism. Have you ever considered that I was mocking extreme moral relativism? My question is, why are you passing judgement on the South Koreans?
For the record, I think that the Scandinavian model of rehabilitation is the best way to work with most prisoners.
I pass judgments on all governments when it comes to violating human dignity.
You try to make this a race thing is fucking weird. I’m judging a government’s actions not the entire population of South Korea.
And when it comes to human rights I take an absolutionist stance on morality. Slavery is never okay
yeah, the kind that sets you on fire, shoots your wife and sells your children to Epstein, then goes “it’s just a prank bro”.
There’s tons of light-hearted, harmless pranks out there. A good laugh where everyone goes away a little bit happier.
This guy and his ilk on the other hand intentionally antagonise people to the point where they feel the need to defend themselves. Just because someone is out and about in public doesn’t mean they’re a free target for you to be shitty with them. Everyone has - or at least should have - the right to be unbothered in public by leeches like him.
People should also have the right to fight back with extreme prejudice if these morons lay hands on them first.
100% - but I meant the self defense part when they haven’t actually touched you, just gotten to the point where their actions can constitute harassment.
The defence would be that they felt their lives were being threatened by the persistent harrassment.
And given there was no physicality, that court case could go either way…
The point I’m trying to make is that people should be free of prosecution if they are being aggressively harassed, both physical and verbal. It used to be, you ran your mouth, you would get a punch in the face to knock some sense back into you. Immediate consequences for stupidity.
People who say “violence is never the answer” probably never got bullied or harassed themselves.
They’ll moralize about “just tell on them!” But that doesn’t do anything, and the harassment only gets worse after that.
Throughout my life, I’ve consistently gotten in more trouble for sticking up for myself than I’ve ever seen my bullies or harassers get in. It’s like the system wants us all to be pushovers and peons, not deserving even the ground beneath our feet. Or maybe I’ve just been tagged from birth as a “peasant” and therefore never been allowed to have a spine.
But honestly, you can see how much damage this is doing to society. “Violence is never the answer” means we have to tolerate intolerance. It gives free license to bigotry, and forces us to appease.
Violence was certainly the answer back in WWII. Nobody was gonna stop the Nazis simply by asking nicely.
But for decades now, people haven’t even been allowed to fight their bullies. And it shows…
Oh I agree. I’m just pointing out that currently, courts require physicality to happen for an overwhelming majority of physical self defense responses.
FAFO 4 U LOL
Good, idiots like this deserve to face the consequences of their actions
This guy is like a reverse hostage. Countries will threaten to release him if they don’t get what they want.
It’s an SCP. The containment procedure is to livestream his location at all times and make it legal for everyone to beat him up.
Maybe outlawing people needs to come back as a penalty.
Finally some good news in 2026
Mf was so annoying they sent him to the gulag
If they do a prisoner exchange with North Korea anytime in the near future, they should send this guy to them. Just because. Maybe it will teach the arrogant US citizens to behave better in other countries.
Note, I’m not saying that about the US citizens that are considerate human beings.
As a prank.
Exactly. It’s just the natural consequences of a social experiment.
South Koreans aren’t the Japanese… they’re not known for playing around.
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Yeah because the Japanese are known for being lenient?
Whom? The people, or the government?
Almost joyfully. And loud singing in the streets.
