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    16 hours ago

    I’m not defending slavery at all. I’m just attempting to explain why it is. Attempting moral relativism, because South Korea has a unique history and people which led to the way they interpret their punishment system.

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      16 hours ago

      You must understand the American South had a unique history and people which led to the way they…

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        My wife and stepdaughter are from Africa, I understand the racism. Have you ever considered that I was mocking extreme moral relativism? My question is, why are you passing judgement on the South Koreans?

        For the record, I think that the Scandinavian model of rehabilitation is the best way to work with most prisoners.

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          I pass judgments on all governments when it comes to violating human dignity.

          You try to make this a race thing is fucking weird. I’m judging a government’s actions not the entire population of South Korea.

          And when it comes to human rights I take an absolutionist stance on morality. Slavery is never okay

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              Voted against him, protested, made my plans, and got out of the US.

              I’m fundamentally opposed to everything that criminal is doing. Unfortunately my power to change his regime is limited.

              Doesn’t have much to do about slavery as a punishment for a crime.

              Nows the part where you get upset because I haven’t personally started an armed rebellion right?

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                No, I wanted to see if you practiced what you preached. You do, therefore you’re an active part of the solution, rather than part of the problem, which was the people who voted for him, or worse, didn’t vote at all.

                I hope that more of the people as a whole in the US will participate in the May 1st general strike, and make it a sustained effort.

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            The way a people’s government is shaped and interpreted is a direct result of the collective experience of that culture, therefore what I am saying is relevant. Did you read the last sentence of my previous comment? That’s what I really think.

            Edit to add that I agree that slavery is wrong. My original statement was about how things came to be, not to pass any particular judgement on it.

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              The way a people’s government is shaped and interpreted is a direct result of the collective experience of that culture

              I mean 70 years ago the entire Korean peninsula was directly shaped by like 6 foreign powers into what it is today.

              Still don’t see how that green lights slavery or how any of this is relevant to the issue I’m discussing.

              I fully understand how different cultures form and operate. I even have a degree to back it up, but I’m not going to have an anthropological or sociological debate on slavery. Slavery is never fit to be a punishment for a crime. That is what I am talking about. Why do you keep trying to drag it from that topic?

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                  15 hours ago

                  Which is why I am against that too.

                  I would be okay if it is offered as a choice. Either you go sit in jail for the same number of hours or you go do community service. Equitable and not forced labor.

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                    14 hours ago

                    So, somewhat like how Portugal gives people who have a substance dependency the choice of jail or participation in a treatment program.

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                15 hours ago

                Incidentally, what are you currently doing to stop Donald Trump? I’m Canadian, so I’m divesting from anything US.