A literal steaming pile of dog shit would be better than our current situation. Let’s dig ourselves out of the ground before we start reaching for the stars
Idk I think he reflects the country pretty well like Trump.
Gavin Newsom has a greater chance of losing to Vance and almost any other democratic candidate.
Libs need to stop falling for the ‘leftists want trump to win, see look they wont commit to voting for the Democrats’ shtick. They just want to discredit the part of the base that’s trying to actually save the party.
Watching how fast he threw the trans community under the bus told me everything I needed to know about him. He has the moral compass of a boiled piece of spaghetti… fuck this corpo dem.
Idk, I think he’s pretty terrible.
Newsom says he’s eager to pitch a big tent for the Democratic Party, declaring that he welcomes the likes of former US senator Joe Manchin as well as New York’s socialist mayor Zohran Mamdani in the fold. “I want it to be the Manchin to Mamdani party,” Newsom said in November.
Newsom can fuck right the hell off. Manchin represents everything that is wrong with the Democratic party and so, apparently, does Newsom.
declaring that he welcomes the likes of former US senator Joe Manchin
Turn our backs and give them extra knives, huh gav?
You mean the serial adulterer who can’t read and whose entire life has been sponsored by a Getty oil heir isn’t a good candidate for president of the United States? Shocked.
I thought his inability to read was because of ADHD. We back to hatin on disabilities again?
I mean, in addition to what everyone else said, disabilities can in fact disqualify you from being a good president.
If someone is non-verbally autistic with an ID diagnosis, it’s not ableist to say they aren’t a good candidate to be president.
Obviously this is a spectrum, and ADHD shouldn’t be, on its face, disqualifying. But if it’s so bad you’re literally illiterate, then it’s no ableist to say that makes you a bad candidate to be president.
Eh… Context is important. I think if he had overcome his disability and managed to power through it to achieve a decent education that would actually be a plus.
Instead he has a bachelor’s from an expensive private school where he “studied” abroad. I think it’s just indicative of his history of being able to rely on connections and money to achieve his position in life. And it makes me doubt that he is educated enough or willing to work hard enough to learn all the things someone should know to be president of the United States.
As someone who has a neurodevelopmental disorder, my problem isn’t that he has a learning disability. It’s that he’s a rich fuck boy with a learning disability, which is a powerful combo. I know if I had a friend who just gifted me multi-million dollar businesses that allowed me to do whatever I wanted…I would be an idiotic terror.
I tutor, and I’ve ran into lots of rich boys with disabilities who learn that they can get their parents to pay for their homework to be done for them (or the mom does it herself…). Fired a client because he had too much of a “reading disability” to do the required reading for the paper we were writing - previous tutors would write his papers for him!
Yep. I have a position at a teaching hospital where we teach residents from all over the country. The ones from pay to play private schools are always subpar both in their education and especially in people skills. Most of them drop, or pivot to administration positions where they don’t have to associate with everyday people.
ADHD has no impact on reading ability.
If he has reading problems, it’s due to something else.
Fuck newsom
I hate to admit this, but I used to listen to the Adam Corolla podcast years ago, and he had Newsom on as a guest when he was lieutenant governor of California. At the time, he claimed that the biggest issue facing Californians was being unbanked. Like payday loan companies were the worst threat.
Newsom was Lt. Governor of CA from 2011-2019. I am not Californian, and I don’t know what they’re dealing with outside of the seemingly-constant wildfires, and those seem pretty fucking bad, and I’m sure there are some other pretty terrible things Californians have to deal with, too.
That said, payday loan companies deserve to get spit-roasted by the Devil and the Devil’s angriest pet donkey in the deepest bowels of Hell.
As a Californian, the state is absolutely huge and I have never been affected by any of the wildfires and frankly I doubt more than 1% of the population has even been affected directly by the fires. It’s a completely overblown issue. Does it suck? Yes. Does the media make it seem the entire state is on fire 24/7? Yeah. Don’t believe the media.
The real issues Californians face are:
- Housing/Zoning/NIMBYs
- Public transportation
- ISP services(or lack thereof)
- Huge population(traffic, cars, etc), of course some areas are worse than others
We do have pretty cheap groceries as long as you don’t shop at Target or Pavilions. Costco, WinCo, Aldi’s, etc. all have great pricing compared to other posts I see from around the country. Same goes for gas. Costco is around $3.50-$4.00 a gallon(for 87) for the past couple years. But the Chevron or Shell down the street is $4.50-$5 a gallon.
Taxes are also overblown. Everyone looks at our marginal rates and go “so high!” but never calculate what their effective rate is, which is usually much lower.
And then people love to bring up “the homeless” like there’s a camp on every street corner. Like yeah, maybe in LA. But for my city I have only seen the occasional pan handler on the freeway off ramps, which I doubt are even homeless since I’ve seen at least one leave their corner and go to their SUV in the nearby parking lot and drive away at the end of the day, like it’s a job for them.
We have our issues, the state is far from perfect, but I’d rather be here in Cali than any other state at this point.
A few years back the Boston globe did an expose on panhandlers and yeah, there are scammers and you need to recognize them but most people in need are truly people in need.
My take on it was that aggressive panhandlers in prime locations (major tourist spots, intersections with chronic backups) are most likely scammers. People sitting quietly looking defeated are in need. The hard part is deciding whether/how to help all those in between, but it’s good to remember that most people who look homeless are homeless
Then there’s that weird guy who approached to talk about his knife, probably to try to steal my dog while technically not threatening - I so regret not calling police
Oh for sure, I try to keep cash on me for the ones I know truly are homeless. Sometimes I need to do late night grocery runs and the dude hanging out in front of a grocery store at 10pm isn’t a scammer. If I don’t have cash I usually offer to buy something, usually grocery stores have those pre-made sandwiches.
Housing/Zoning/NIMBYs
You’d love Houston then.
As compared to what? Is he worse than Trump? I sincerely fucking doubt it.
If you want to know what the flat comparison should be, it’s AOC. She is, in reality, a centrist.
Now go again with the comparison.
So more of that lesser evil bullshit that’s given us trump and helped shift the entire DNC to the right?
The best pushback for this message is to post the entire interview between Newsom and Ben Shapiro and then tell me again who cares about people.
Democrats have been playing the “well they suck, but at least they’re not Trump!” game for a decade and gotten Trump two out of three times. Maybe we should aim higher.
No, I disagree.
Trump is creating a chaotic shitstorm, but it’s almost entirely performance and theater and mindless destruction, all focused around him and his personality.
If you get someone in there with the same agendas and intentions, but who is cunning enough to mask it under populism and pretending to care about people while signing into law bills that will allow capital to have unrestricted access to our lives, allow them to take part in our politics even more and in the open, packing the courts with corporate aligned-judges… well Liberal america will be HAPPY with this, they just don’t want to see all the violence in the street, they want stability and the image of peace, which will let someone like Newsom soak up all the adoration for “making America normal again” while signing away all of our futures in a much less openly opposable way.
Trump caused the wound, but someone like Newsom will rub the sewage into it.
he will repeal 20% of Trump’s orders and people will celebrate it. He will restore a fraction of what Trump has undone and people will celebrate his name and see him as a hero just because we’ve become accustomed to total chaos. It almost looks carefully planned. Hmmn.
There’s an argument that most of the stuff done in trumps name would be “ok” if he did it legally and that’s what people wanted. It’s the abuse of authority, the personal enrichment, violating the constitution, holding people above the law, enforcing personal feelings, violating checks and balances that are the critical issues.
I wouldn’t want to live in such a society but it would at least be “legitimate”
That’s a ridiculously low bar, but it’s also an important distinction.
Do I want Gavin Newsom to be the Democrat nominee for 2028? Hell no! He’s revealed himself to be a shallow political opportunist and an ideological chameleon. And I think that party can do better.
But regardless, would he be an improvement over Trump? Hell yes!
Another question is: is he - a supposedly populist liberal from California - even electable on a national stage? I don’t think so. But then, we live in very ‘interesting’ times. So who knows.
The third question is: will we have a fair enough election in 2028 (or an election at all)? That remains to be seen.
Put it this way, us overseas would rather see Newsom in charge of it than Trump.
That’s way better for us.
Anyone would be an improvement over Trump. Even Vance, probably. I’d gladly see Newsom win. But even more than that, I’d like to see Bernie, Warren or AOC win.
Me too, but anyone who doesn’t threaten the sovereignty of other countries and respects some form of order is good for us.
Edit: Vance would last a month and no, if he could get full influence he might be as bad or worse than Trump.
See this I feel. These articles annoy me because it feels like the dem bad thing but yeah if your talking canidate heck I would love waltz. him being put on as vice president was the main thing that jazzed me a bit with harris. Honestly I did not want my own govenor to run because our state has been such a trump show in the past and its nice being on track for awhile but man we need something decent in the role. I really don’t know enough about newsom to say for sure but he certiainly does not have much going for him outside of using social media to combat trump which is good idea overall. Still unlike republicans I am going to be voting based on someone who I think can actually do a good job in the role rather than score some points.
These do annoy me. Of course Newsom is not the best candidate but they are distracting everyone from how much better that would be than the current shitshow
And I have to ask y’all, are we really going to an insists on an ideal candidate regardless whether they are electable?
I have no idea whether Newsom is but he has name recognition, presidential presence, and a successful “populist” strategy. He has successfully positioned himself as a leading foil of Trump. All that stuff that seem necessary for getting elected even if they have no part in whether they would do well for their constituents. …. And they’re building a train!
I do always wonder if this is just republicans trying to astroturf “both sides the same”.
I mean when it comes to primaries I do not vote on electability. I think that is how we get the democrats we have now. Come general though im not going to be supporting the republican by voting for them or not voting. Bernie was the supposed unelectable canidate and I voted for him but come the general I voted for clinton.
As compared to some of the other candidates that might have run if the Democratic Primary were an actual primary and not a coronation.
The last time Democrats ran an actual primary ws 2008, when a young, generational candidate beat out the (kinda boring) establishment choice. Democrats learned their lesson to never let something encouraging like that happen again!
Gavin’s gonna win the Primary, as his right as the Next One Up, and we’re all gonna vote for him, because as awful as he is, he is objectively better than whoever the MAGA party will run.
And this is the exact attitude why nothing will ever change in this country. You can’t keep voting in people hellbent on maintaining the hegemony capital has over everyone and expect anything to get better for you.
In the history of Democratic party, there was exactly one time where the candidate that the DNC chose, actually lost a popular vote. Exactly one.
It was in 2008, when a young, generational candidate actually lost the popular vote by 1% to the (kinda boring) establishment choice, but was chosen anyway.
It’s nice to have this simplistic worldview, when “they” control everything anyway so you don’t have to do anything and just complain when “they” don’t do what you want. It’s harder to confront the reality when “they” actually consist of all the people around you, and the only reason you don’t get what you want is because you don’t do shit.Nice try, but the popular vote doesn’t mean anything in primaries, because the elections are held over a period of time and many candidates drop out mid-way through, so we will never know how many Joe Biden or John Edwards voters would have voted for Obama over Clinton. Clinton did not win a majority of votes, after all.
Obama won a majority of pledged delegates, even before taking the undemocratic Super Delegates into account, and it’s delegates that count.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Democrats don’t need to mess with the counting of votes to “fix” primaries. They do it the old fashioned way, by manipulating the primary calendar to make certain candidates inevitable.
Primaries need to be on one fucking day across the nation.
Make it ranked choice or some other system that works properly with more than 2 candidates while we’re at it.
Popular vote reflects how people who actually vote think. Candidates aren’t appearing out of thin air, they’re nominated as the result of political campaigns.
You can’t shift the blame for candidates to ambiguous “them” if you didn’t get your ass to try to affect it in any way. The delegates represent pretty nicely the opinion of people who actually vote in Primaries, with almost perfect track record. They don’t represent your opinion because you don’t vote therefore don’t have an opinion. So you don’t get to complain about what party that you’re not in is doing. Want it to change? Use the ways to change it. Those ways aren’t hidden from you, aren’t secret, aren’t gatekeeped by a shadow cabal, you just need to do politics about it. People who get their candidates elected do that.
Exactly. I don’t think anyone is putting him on a pedestal, he’s just better than a lot of alternatives. I’m not saying that’s a reason to vote for him, but he’s miles better than literally in the current administration.
I personally think Mark Kelly will be running and I just might choose him.
He’s the better choice strategically.
Only problem is Kelly has the charisma that of a potato.
And looks like one too.
Oh hai hagseth.
Fuck you, Gavin! It’s much bigger than that! It was cold outside…
