

If the other options don’t exist then how are the private daycares struggling to fill the classrooms? People need their kids taken care of, I doubt anyone is prematurely taking their kids out of private daycare.


If the other options don’t exist then how are the private daycares struggling to fill the classrooms? People need their kids taken care of, I doubt anyone is prematurely taking their kids out of private daycare.
Yup, and all because it’s what people say.
And then people go “you have to vote Liberal or the Conservatives will win!” and it’s like, ya’ll voted Liberal and conservatives did win! And not only that but in doing so they also further delayed the country by shooting our major progressive option in the foot!
I just wish people had a baseline intelligence that wasn’t so embarrassing.
And remember, by “center” it’s really “even further right than last time”. We have the same problem in Canada and we literally have a third, progressive party that’s fully separate from the neo-liberal “centrist” party and we still fuck it up.
Conservatives should be voting for Democrats but human beings aren’t generally that smart so most of us participate in relativistic politics and it sucks.


That’s just classic branding at that point. If you listen to the conservatives and the media in Canada you’d swear the Liberal party was a super woke bunch of progressives but the majority of stuff they ever do that can be considered progressive is whatever the NDP was able to negotiate for during the coalition when the Liberals held a minority government. I don’t know much of French politics but I have the feeling thag their “left” is only such in that they aren’t explicitly a right-wing party and that there’s a further right option.


You literally said that progressives need to make real change by rallying behind unideal candidates who may be a little amoral. And you think it’s my fault for in-fighting because I want to focus on the more ideal and more moral options? Fucking please.
I can’t tell if I’m more insulted that you’re lying to my face or that you would actually think I’d believe you. God, you truly are a pathetic little weasel, aren’t you?


It’s also not just the US. In Canada we are constantly told that we must stop dreaming about electing our main progressive party and that we must rally around the increasingly conservative centrist party. Centrists demand sacrifice but refuse to ever give anything in return. They are cowardly obstacles, not serious people.
Our last election saw the NDP lose official party status because of a lack of votes, the Conservatives are still highly supported and will get in eventually when they’re even crazier, and the Liberals we elected are the most conservative they’ve even been down to letting private companies steal our natural resources with fewer consequences all while helping ones like Air Canada by trying to declare the flight attendant strike illegal. People said our prime minister being a banker would help us this economy but he shown that he would rather weaken the average citizen than help them.
At least right-wingers spew their hate with their whole chest. Centrists are just cowards, nothing more.


It’s always the progressives who need to rally behind the centrist, isn’t it? Never the other way around because you’re just a coward.
How about you grow even an inch of a spine and rally behind someone who wants to make real change? How about you stop spending you life on this planet being nothing more than a barrier? Get it together.
I really don’t give a damn whether you hate me or not, your opinion is worthless. You don’t know the first fucking thing about togetherness, just empty platitudes that make you comfortable so you don’t need to actually face anything difficult.


Mamdani handed the DNC a win and they fought him the whole way anyhow. Centrists as always act like there’s no alternative between centrism and conservatism even though it’s only and specifically because they systematically attack anyone who actually tries to make things truly better.


Hey, buddy? Shut the fuck up.
The US is in the mess because of worthless people like you who get angry at anyone who hopes for more. People say “hey can we not do better than complete garbage?” and you feel the need to tell them that they’re wrong. Gavin Newsom will not dig you out of the hole you’re in, nor will any other center-right corporate stooge.
I say this with my whole heart: I hate you.


“This is nothing, you can’t even trust this random limosine driver” - The people who latched onto the cats and dogs lie, and the people who told it, even after Vance explicitly said it was made up.


Oh yea, I’m fully on board with find literally anything else haha


I am NOT the guy to talk to about drugs but there have been toilets without their own tanks for a long time.


In this case it literally doesn’t even begin to matter for us because all we need is our voter registration paper that government mails to us. We can bring other stuff but that’s it.


This is fighting? Not holding an event? The bare minimum here is to host it and still invite everyone because that’s the entire point. Throwing the plan in the garbage and walking away isn’t fighting, especially when he’s getting his way pretty much everywhere and can just have his little Republican governors’ meeting whenever he wants otherwise.
Ya’ll need to redefine “fighting” because that’s the weakest shit I’ve ever seen.


Except that they’re not putting anywhere near the amount of effort I’d hope they would need to influence people. Look at how awful Trump is, how openly disgusting he is, and yet them just saying “no that’s fake actually” is enough.
People like these awful things and they want to be “influenced” so they can pretend, amongst themselves mostly, that they were fooled.
Here in Canada we have three major parties and a few minor ones. A decade or more ago ago our three major parties could be described as progressive, centerist, and conservative. These days they can be referree to as progressive, conservative/center-right, and far-right.
How many people do you suppose switched from the Conservitives to the Liberals, from the originally conservative to the now conservative/center-right, in more recent years as the parties changed their alignment and began representing different people? Next to fucking no one. Most originally Conservative voters, if they genuinely believed in what they were saying, should be voting Liberal right now as that party now aligns with their supposed views more closely. Liberals, likewise, only care about voting for the party that puts itself between the two options on either side, calling anyone to the right or left “extreme” or “idealists” no matter what their positions actually are and so it’s difficult to get them to actually make real change.
The moral of this story is that MAGA voters are voting based on following their tribe around and they are completely locked into branding and stereotypes. They believe anything they’re told because they want to align themselves with an image, not vote for a representative. The more this shit goes on the more I think the world needs to ban the idea of political parties so that voters have to actually listen to the campaign promises of candidates.


Didn’t you hear? The US is maybe on the first step to starting down a path towards fascism!
They say just enough to pretend like they’ve said anything.


In his current state, I think a beer would probably kill him. We could only hope, anyway.
Not only that, but us straight, white dudes do so many shootings that despite there really not being that many trans people they’re still under-represented. It’s not like there were only five shootings and so 20% was by a trans person, there were so many that it’s less than a percent.
It’s not just the flat numbers, but the percentages, too.