Right? Same problem in Canada, we bitch and moan and will spend so much energy on so many things but our turnout is dogshit. The last Montréal municipal election had 36%, the last couple Ontario provincial elections had less than half, and the last federal election was only 69.5%. Last time the federal election saw more than 70% was in 1988.

The honest fact of it all is that votes are currently not weighted differently. No matter how fucked things get, if populations said “NO” to these openly corrupt assholes then that would be the end of them. Instead, it feels like nothing will stop idiots from voting for pure evil and nothing will get 30+% of the population to actually pay any attention at all.

Bet he was a huge fan of corporate subsidies, especially when the business was experiencing the consequences of management failure and the reasoning was essentially that they were holding their employees’ well being hostage.

My friends dad is like that. We had a whole conversation/argument one time over a corporations right to basically do whatever it wanted because they had the position of power/ownership. The energy there has been chill since then, but my friend also just moved out into a house, so it’ll be less of an issue.

It’s interesting, with those people, where even the faintest possibility that something positive could maybe be misused is enough to gut the whole thing, but you show imperically how capitalism is used for evil fare more often than for good and they’re chill with that.

3M and DuPont could poison a whole town, cover it up, and then get no real punishment, but if they even THINK about their porn-hungry, homeless strawman that’s enough to burn down their local library. Conservatives are deeply unserious people who cause deeply serious damage.

Honestly, look at the people who voted for him and look at his dementia and his general contempt for anyone but himself. The Russia thing may or may not be true, but either answer does not absolve US citizens of their responsibility in how this has all unfolded.

“Anyone normal” and a side-eye emoji. Not “for the layman” or “in case anyone doesn’t know yet”, but “anyone normal” with attitude.

God, I know literacy levels are in the fucking toilet but are you serious?

Dumbing the world down for Benny is only hurting the both of you. I truly believe that some people are just shockingly stupid and that’s the end of it but you say Roberston enough times, without being an asshole, and even they will figure it out.

So, I wanted to go at the guy for not reading your article but in reading it myself I did find possibly missing something. Like, they talk about them fitting within one another but then show that there are definitely differences. Maybe it’s a case of the same number screwdriver not being equal but +/- 1 number gets you back on track, I dunno.

The article definitely isn’t fully selling me on what they’re saying, though. I own a 1986 Ninja 1000 and have done extensive work to it(engine in half, whole bike in pieces at one point) and there was definitely something up with the bolts. I replaced them all with new button-head and socket-head hex bolts and life was much easier.

Robertson = Robertson. “Square-head” is not clear enough, same as saying “hex-head” and not being able to say definitively whether you need an allen key or a socket. It’s not that difficult, just learn things.

Explain how what I’ve been doing has been haopening for decades. I’m specifically saying that way too many people have been scared into strategic voting and that we all need to start voting FOR things instead of against them. Literally said it’s not been happening, because it fucking hasn’t been and I would like to stop being so alone in standing by my convictions.

Ranked choice would be sick and I know it’s the way forward. Here in Canada the centrist LPC was elected largely on updating our electoral system IN 2015 and then nearly immediately went “it’s too haaaaaard” when they realized that they would probably never win another election. That was blatantly anti-democratic and should have led people to never vote for them ever again, but they are STILL in power because we’re a bunch of spineless cowards. We TRIED to do what you’re asking and it DID NOT WORK. The only times we’ve seen the LPC do anything good are when they’ve had a minority government and the progressive NDP could use their leverage to force them to do the right thing. The NDP, I might add, used ranked-choice voting for their recent leadership race.

Go take a long walk off a short pier. The cold water might help clear your head.

Bro, Canada and the US have been doing the whole “vote centrist and tell the progressives that we’ll get to their utopic ideas ‘just as soon as we get to these goalposts we totally won’t move’” thing for decades and it’s only gotten us massive delayed, half-assed progress at best, but mostly just contributed to the ratcheting effect. It doesn’t work, we’ve seen it not working in real-time, its time we gave up on that crap.

If you don’t vote for what you want, you aren’t going to get it. If you the people you vote for learn they only have to be marginally better than another boogeyman party then they are also going to learn that they don’t need to listen to you. As fucked up as the system is, no party actually gets votes that are weighted more than another’s. It’s not like votes for other parties’ are literally counted at half the rate; we can turn this shit around tomorrow if we actually did something about it. And there IS something starting, progressives are getting more power and attention, and people are getting energized. Don’t kill that momentum, lean into it, show that you support it and let others feel comfortable to show their support, too.

The simple reality that I see when I talk to “strategic” voters is that they’re scared, and they worry about everyone else being scared, too. It’s always “well, maybe next election…” until it’s “ok well this time I don’t think it’s the right time to…”.

I am, because that is how it works. I’m from Canada, one party is progressive, then we have two other parties which amount to northern copies of the DNC and GOP. We have other small ones. People’s main excuse for not voting for the progressive party is “they can’t win” and we refer to their seats in parliament to show that because we’re largely cowards.

People have a hard time seeing what “support” is, but everyone can see the spread of MPs(member of congress, essentially) and they make choices based on that. People will look me in my real face and say “I wanted to vote NDP but I neeeeeeded to vote against the Conservatives” and now our forests are on fire and our Prime Minister is sucking Trump’s dick, fighting our unions, and handing over taxpayer money to oil and gas companies or real-estate developers(don’t worry, they’re not doing anything to ease the cost of living).

If you do not vote for something then you are voting against it. Maybe you’re ok with that, maybe you deem it worth it, but you need to accept that reality and what it shows everyone else.

Literally jusy start with the first sentence, dude. It’s ok, take your time, but maybe next time don’t come at me with your raging first grade reading level(is it even that? Their comment was pretty clear).

Another one! I feel the UK changes PMs more often than most people change their underwear, and that’s not a dig at their personal hygiene. I guess it’s good that people still step-down or are removed when they aren’t performing but uhhhh

Waiting for a third party person to get support before you support them kills any chance of a movement right away. Until then, you just get the center-right using the far-right boogeyman.

We have a viable third party here in Canada but people’s main excuse “they’ll never win”. Like, no shit, you keep saying you like their platform so fucking DO something about it!

The dumbest thing for the US specifically is that there IS a movement forming. Progressives are winning primaries, Mamdani is fixing NYC in record time and pulling no punches, and people are getting excited about it even in other countries. It’s all there, and if you vote against that what the fuck do you think is going to happen? If you aren’t part of the solution, you’re part of the problem.

They’re saying that no one will make a law against a Republican, but Republicans may make laws against Democrats. Of course, that also won’t happen if it means the GOP can continue to score bitching points with their base while also profitting, but still.

In Canada, we have “centrists” that are really just fascists that don’t openly hate gay people. There is almost no difference between our current prime minister and the guy so many people were voting against. The stupid thing is that we have a proper progressive party.

My message to you is this: The conservatives know you’re scared and are using that. Their only tactic is to tell you that you need to vote against someone who is worse than them and then they get their power either way. It’s always “we can argue over the shade of blue once you put this specific shade of purple into power” and then nothing happens. The name-brand conservatives complain about them being woke, the “moderates” act like the problem is solved, and the left has to deal with both those idiots refusing to do any work.

Bro they got a dead guy they’re pretending is alive, they’ll do anything.

Damn, someone’s defensive. I don’t really think there’s anything I could say that would be more embarrassing than what you’ve done to yourself there so uh, yea thanks, champ.

“She needs to be out doing good” and ya’ll seriously need to understand that for every halfway decent Dem poltician there are 30 horrible ones, and the people in charge have literally complained about the recent slight shift to the left. She’s not going to be doing good and even if she kept her mouth shut she wasn’t going to be doing anything good.

Here in Canada, a bunch of fuckheads voted against the Conservatives Party but instead of going all-in on the progressives they voted for the Liberal Party and we now have a hyper-conservative dickhead in charge whose only advantage over the other party is not openly hating minorities. They’re perfectly ok with keeping the status quo, though, which includes leaving thise people out to dry.

The US population needs to start making demands. No more voting against the most evil, they need to start voting FOR good.

It’s absolutely wild how many in the US and Canada are just completely politically ignorant.