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    The Americans will gain absolutely nothing that they don’t already have.

    Not true. They’ll gain the thing that they actually want, possible mineral and oil fields, even though nobody is asking for it. Trump sees dollar signs, even though as per usual it’s terrible business, but he has a military to enforce his wants so we’re all fucked

    Trump is a mobster wannabe if mobsters were just terribly dumb

    Even the oil companies don’t want Venezuela, yet he invaded it for them anyway

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      They already have access to mineral and oil rights in Greenland. This is literally just about the words on the map, just like Gulf of Mexico.

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      US companies can apply for mineral extraction in Greenland if they want, there is nothing stopping them. Greenland would be quite happy for the tax.

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      Also he probably looks at a Mercator projection map and thinks New Trumpistan would be just YUGE. Trump the great they will call him in his own imagining of history.

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    I don’t think this dude realises that he is talking about the dumbest president in American history, but then again he did get into the White House TWICE, so i’m not really sure who’s stupider? him or those that put him there and are STILL rooting for him…

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      I think he might be the dumbest world leader in history, honestly.

      Like, there have been some real morons throughout the world, but this guy really takes the idiot cake.

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      It shows you how rigged the voting system is in favor of the Republicans for the presidential election. They have rejected the illusion of democracy at this point let alone the practice.

      They have gerrymandered, used religion, the courts, infiltrated voting systems, and not mention constant propaganda with a heavy reliance on othering people to ensure they win even when their numbers are less.

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      Republicans and the voters that voted Trump are definitely the stupider part of that situation. Being fooled by a fool makes you pretty stupid. Failing to detect the blatant lies of a pathological liar makes you stupid. Thinking the obvious flaming sociopathic narcissist is on your side makes you stupid.
      The only way to be that stupid is by a lifetime of indoctrination that up is down. Americans have been indoctrinated for a century that freedom is the ultimate highest value, higher than life itself, without ever actually making a good definition of what freedom is! And Trump is a sociopathic narcissist, with no conscience no respect for anything or regard for other people and little self control, and that is seen by most of the American population as the ultimate expression of the freedom they idolize.
      Americans are also indoctrinated to admire being rich, as a sign of skill and intelligence. And since Trump is rich and famous, Americans think he is intelligent, despite his fortune is based on his inheritance.

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    An attack on Greenland would trigger Article 5. An attack on one is an attack on all. It would start a world war.

    Trump said that electing Kamala would lead to world war 3. Every accusation is an admission.

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        There are options. Dumping US bonds would collapse the US, and the only thing that makes it hard is the US economy collapsing would be a bad thing for the EU right now.

        Also, protracted resistance. Greenland is harsh territory, and Nordic weekend soldiers regularly beat US marines in exercises in cold weather warfare.

        The USSR lost half a million in Afghanistan, 50k to fighting, 450k to the environment. And they didn’t need to resupply via the Atlantic.

        Also, the Nordics probs have the world’s best submarine interdiction fleet, and most of the Cold War era US anti-sub stuff is actually reliant on Greenland, Iceland and the UK cooperating.

        Nordic subs regularly score hits on US carriers in exercises.

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        It would be the end of NATO as it stands, there’s no reason the remaining countries couldn’t continue the alliance or start a new one.

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          Would technically have to be a new one, NATO wasn’t designed to handle this sort of scenario. Of course New NATO would be an America-free roughly equivalent, with some different governance to prevent things like a single county impeding something everyone else wants.

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    Considering that Trump will go down in history as politics’ dumbest fucking member, it’s not a stretch.

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        There’s an old saying in Tennessee - I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me - you can’t get fooled again.

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          That wasn’t even stupidity. He just realized partway through the sentence that he didn’t want there to be an audio clip of him saying “shame on me.” So he tried to change it and made it so much worse.

          If anything this makes him more relatable.

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            I’m just gonna share another quote that I remember from the President of the war on terror.

            “Families is where our nation finds hope, where wings take dream.”

            In the competition for “politics’ dumbest fucking member” US will probably place several times.

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        Regan wasn’t a dumbass by a longshot. He was just a bad president. The comparison isn’t even remotely close.

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          Reagan was a huge dumbass. He was the first in a long line of stooges for rich. He was just a empty suit doing what he was told. Oh and he commited treason with iran to get elected. So its lines up more than you think.

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            None of that is an example of low intelligence, just corruption and poor judgement/greed.

            Trump is a fucking idiot. Regan was a god-damned genius in comparison.

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    The Dumbest <thing> In History is Trump’s bag, baby. It’s his home territory. An enduring legacy he has painstakingly built over decades. It’s a tall bar to clear, but I think Trump can top the Emu War.

    I can’t predict anything this administration does, but it seems very possible we attack on MLK day.

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        I think he’d love to rename it after himself somehow. And if they did an instant takeover, that would be Trump’s “V-Day.”

        I wouldn’t bet money on it, but if I had to, that’s the day I’d pick. They are ramping up the rhetoric more than they ever did for Venezuela.

        I think his birthday is coming up. That is a strong contender as well. “Happy Birthday, Mr. President. We got you Greenland.”

        “Wow, no one has ever gotten me one of those before. Can I do the whole Prime Nocturn thing with the Danish gals?”

        That might be a better bet, even.

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          They are ramping up the rhetoric more than they ever did for Venezuela.

          I mean I wouldn’t say that. They quite literally murdered people regularly in the lead up to that with the boat thing.

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            Yes, the action was more severe, but generally downplayed as “just law enforcement stuff”, not every day musing how they should just take Venezuela over.

            Waltzing into Venezuela seems to be like blood in the water. They have a taste for it and are ready to roll over another “easy” target (why would NATO raise a fuss over less than 70K people, I am sure they are thinking)

            They don’t see Venezuela as a one off, they see it as momentum…

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        If I’m thinking like an idiot a la trump I’d think then when we celebrate mlk we’re actually celebrating takeover of Greenland day. In his mind maybe replacing a holiday he dislikes. Maybe another purity test for his idiot followers

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          Even if the US military achieve complete control of Greenland in a short time (they will not, and will learn the danes know how to fight in the snow), the first thing the next admin will do is to pull off, bring the troops home and negotiate the possible war reparations.

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    Idk, invading the wrong country for 20 years was also pretty dumb. Maybe not for american standards, but for every developed country.

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    And American employers won’t be able to get by at the holidays by putting out a can of those cheap ass cookies.

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      The link says it was over a fort having been seized. Though I’m not pro war, that seems like a pretty standard reason to go to war. It says it was not actually over a bucket.

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    There were wars for less. As I understood the discourse, were talking about lots of oil that will be available there in the future - or will not, who knows.

    Europe needs better safety measures than considering wars unlikely it stupid… I still can’t comprehend why the hell did Putin need to attack Ukraine, yet here we are 12/4 years after.

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      With Ukraine, Russia had recent easy incursions to Georgia and getting Crimea. So they legitimately thought that they’d just roll tanks to Kyiv in a few days and get more strongly worded letters and enjoy the loot. So he attacked Ukraine because he thought it would be easy. It’s got valuable resources, and Putin has this goal of restoring Soviet borders.

      Easy enough to understand why, at the time, he did it. If there’s one silver lining I wonder if China became more reluctant about Taiwan seeing how thins can go.