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slothrop@lemmy.ca to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 15 hours ago

'It Would Be The Dumbest War In History': Danish MP Hits Back At Trump's Greenland Threats

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'It Would Be The Dumbest War In History': Danish MP Hits Back At Trump's Greenland Threats

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slothrop@lemmy.ca to politics @lemmy.worldEnglish · 15 hours ago
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The US president has insisted the States needs Greenland for "defence".
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    I think the EU would capitulate. They know they can’t fight the US. But it would likely be the end of NATO.

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      There are options. Dumping US bonds would collapse the US, and the only thing that makes it hard is the US economy collapsing would be a bad thing for the EU right now.

      Also, protracted resistance. Greenland is harsh territory, and Nordic weekend soldiers regularly beat US marines in exercises in cold weather warfare.

      The USSR lost half a million in Afghanistan, 50k to fighting, 450k to the environment. And they didn’t need to resupply via the Atlantic.

      Also, the Nordics probs have the world’s best submarine interdiction fleet, and most of the Cold War era US anti-sub stuff is actually reliant on Greenland, Iceland and the UK cooperating.

      Nordic subs regularly score hits on US carriers in exercises.

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        These estimates are not as catastrophic as yours, but they are still not ‘good’:

        Casualty and Material Loss Estimates (Invasion Phase)

        Casualty and Material Loss Estimates (Insurgency/Occupation Phase)

        Source: Prime Rogue. A Hypothetical U.S. Military Invasion of Greenland – Grand Strategy, Strategy, Operations, and Tactics: A National Security Briefing.

        I just thought that this would be potentially interesting to you.

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      It would be the end of NATO as it stands, there’s no reason the remaining countries couldn’t continue the alliance or start a new one.

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        Would technically have to be a new one, NATO wasn’t designed to handle this sort of scenario. Of course New NATO would be an America-free roughly equivalent, with some different governance to prevent things like a single county impeding something everyone else wants.

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