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      100% this. This will be the hit list they want to go down. Pardon Maxwell, then say listen…here are the names (with no evidence but her word). Then they start making arrests. Probably 5 or less GOP members, the rest nobodies and Dems.

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        They won’t arrest anyone. If they do, everything about this whole process will be subpoenaed and plastered in public for all to see.

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            Precisely. They don’t need to arrest anyone for that crime because they can just lock people up whenever they want anyway. It’s interesting that you realized the law doesn’t matter but couldn’t apply it one step earlier in the process.

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          Plot twist: Trump issues a blanket pardon for Maxwell, and all the Democrats she names. Whether or not they actually did it, for precisely that reason. If they prosecuted them, then the government have to prove it’s case. But Trump can pardon anything for any reason, even shit he makes up.

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            That’ll piss off his base because he’s supposed to be the savior, not the swamp or something. They’ll release the “names” and then nothing will happen because, exactly like you said, then they don’t have to prove it.

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              He doesn’t need the base anymore. If he holds on to power past Jan 2029, he won’t need their votes to do it. He won’t need any votes at all.

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                Public opinion always matters. Even kings needed their people on their side; why do you think they made up all that divine right bullshit and had the churches preach it so much?

                Every country has the government that a sufficient number of people are willing to tolerate. Tyranny can only tip the scales, it cannot change the game. If a populace doesn’t want to be ruled, it cannot be ruled. That’s why fascism relies so heavily on the imposition of a hierarchy; because the people who aren’t at the bottom will support the system that gives them someone else to tread on, while the rich and the powerful live it up at the top. But you always need to keep a significant sector of the population on your side. There always has to be an in group who benefit enough from the government to want to keep it.

                Governments end when enough people want them to end. Democracy is just a way of doing it politely.

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        Yes, but this might be mutually assured destruction when Clinton says hey fuck you and starts naming his own names

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    This culture of pardoning criminals for handing over other criminals is sick.
    In this case specifically Trump has a huge conflict of interest, and she is probably pardoned for NOT mentioning Trump.

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      Wait, what the hell is an “auto-mod” doing banning people? That’s not a reason but a method as well, flying in the face of the very point of lemmy’s mod log system.

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    100 names is a suspiciously round number. Surely these aren’t just the 100 most politically convenient ones, right?

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      Maxwell’s lawyer, David Oscar Markus, said after the meetings that his client was asked about maybe “100 different people” in connection with Epstein. He said she did not hold anything back.

      She didnt list the names of offenders or anything like that. She just responded to their questions about 100 people.

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        So anyone who even said hi to him at one time pretty much.

        100 person list: 98 Democrats, a delivery guy, and a repair tech.

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        Sounds an awful lot like the old HUAC trials. “We’ll grant you clemency, all you gotta do is give us the names of your best friends that are communists. We just wanna talk to them.”

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    “Her lawyer said that the sit-downs this week were Maxwell’s first opportunity to answer questions about what happened.”

    I’m pretty sure that she was questioned by investigators during multiple investigations into Epstein over the years, including her own trial that sent her to jail.

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      Not right now, she didn’t. In reality who can say what was promised or implied.

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    It is very simple to predict how this regime will respond. Theyll release her list without trumps name and call it a day. Duh.

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      Close, they’ll release a doctored list with the names of his political opponents, have her nod in exchange for clemency, and the have ICE drag them away in unmarked vans.

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    Not that I care much, I wonder how many days she will last on the street. So many people want her gone.

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      Well we know how long Epstein lasted in prison, so you can bet she’d rather take her chances on the street.

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    “Donald J. Trump in no way knew about any of Jeffry’s illicit doings. In fact, he was a model, moral and honorable person - perhaps the most moral and honorable person in the history of the world, except for maybe Jesus. Jeffery used to come to me, tears in his eyes, and say I wish I could be as strong, powerful and moral as Donald. Any mention of him in any files were related to him going to church and praying.”

    -Ghislaine Maxwell

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    I mean yeah, duh. Anything is better than jail, especially when you belong there for trafficking minors. In the likely event she gets freed, I hope she’s harassed until the end of her worthless days.