I live in a nation with more then two party’s and first past the post (it sucks). You guys need to stop making up reasons to not have viable 3rd parties.

You guys really need a third party already.

What?

They are the establishment.

And right after a trump administration…

Democraticy is on the line, so vote for the ruling party only. Or else you will get worse.

You see how maaaaaybe that was not a super stable platform? You might get an clue that people are angry and feel abandoned by the nation so that when running a campaign you should not TELL EVERYONE HOW GREAT IT IS!.

How?

Oh I agree. But you can not call the mess of a two party system in the states a democracy anymore.

Ah yes, you must vote for the one party every time in order to save democracy. Democracy is the thing where you only vote for them Dems right?

The chosen ruler, it has to be. The alternative would be a monster, a criminal, a dictator from day one.

It can be no other way then the chosen candidate, voting is just a formality of your “democracy”.

Well he talked about maybe looking into what it would mean to offer it. Just like I guess she did?

Wait… I have seen these before. Like 10 plus years ago it feels like.

Despite Kamala Harris’s progressive policies…

Wait, I am not trying to be (overly) mean here but what where they? I just remember her running on a status quo platform.

Its a two party system, why would anyone think being a bit more like the other guy be a good idea?

Why would someone pick knockoff awful when the name brand is right there?

“Bernie Sanders DESTROYS the Democratic Party FROM THE TOP ROPE following Harris loss.” would get my attention.

“BLASTS!”

I mean yeah, but what about “SLAMS” or “RIPS INTO”?

Ok, a few things. This is also using the percent of eligible voters and shows about the expected turn out if not higher then normal. And more importantly 140 million is not the final number in fact some places have stated “National turnout has been estimated at 64.5 percent this year, with around 158 million ballots counted out of the 245 million eligible voters.”

I am sorry that this is not the easy target of blame people clearly want it to be.

Ok this line of thinking is pissing me off.

As of this right now the turn out is 140,144,378 and counting (it will be weeks before the final number).

If we look at the last 90 or so years we can see that this “sad turnout” is the second highest only behind 2020s 158,481,688.

You mean the abysmal (checks notes) second highest turn out since 1932? The turnout whose numbers are still as of right now being counted? That turnout?

Or you know, not gatekeeping but actually taking a position as a political party (instead of trying to be some grey nothing). Oh and having more then two parties would be nice.

Yes, thank you for putting it in plain language. People are not in a good place all over the world and telling people the economy (markets and stats people no longer have faith in) is great has the opposite effect then what the Dems intended.

This mess stems from a combo of a two party system (you know that thing the US founders warned you about) and a fundamental failure (real or perceived) of society’s ability to reward people fairly. Now you don’t have a middle class to pander to, you just have levels of poor and a few ultra wealthy (both demographics that tend to vote more right then left).

The real telling stat here is women voters. At what point would a woman vote contrary to her own body autonomy, safety and general rights? Like anyone else, when she is poor, hungry and angry.