• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    We need to normalize prosecuting members of a cabinet who hide the mental failings of a president to maintain their own positions and power.

    This is the third administration in a row where the president should have been 25th’d on day one.

    We need to set the example that it’s unacceptable, and do inquiries and hearings, and resulting changes if/when we find evidence it was covered up.

    It’s been over a decades now, with both parties doing it for “their side”. If we manage a progressive president next it’s the perfect time to course correct.

    If no one faces consequences, they’ll keep doing it.

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      21 hours ago

      There are so many reasons to evoke the 25th, and very clear reasons for impeachment.

      The 13 Articles:

      Article I: War Power-Murder-Piracy
      
      Article II: Militarization of Domestic Law Enforcement
      
      Article III: Serial Unconstitutional Detentions and Deportations
      
      Article IV: Retaliation Against Constitutionally Protected Speech or Association
      
      Article V: Abuse of the Pardon Power - Sabotaging the Rule of Law
      
      Article VI: Illegally Crippling or Defunding Programs to Protect Consumers, the Needy, Workers, and the Environment
      
      Article VII: Usurpation of the Congressional Power of the Purse
      
      Article VIII: Contempt of Congress - Secret Government
      
      Article IX: Perverting Law Enforcement to Persecute Political Opponents and Benefit Friends
      
      Article X: Suspending or Dispensing with Laws
      
      Article XI: Flouting Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment
      
      Article XII: Specious National Emergency - Foreign Terrorist Organization Declarations
      
      Article XIII: Domestic and Foreign Emoluments Clauses
      

      As you said, It’s time to set an example.

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      21 hours ago

      if we could hold the parents of school shooters accountable like we did last month, we can definitely do this

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      19 hours ago

      You can’t prove a cover-up for mental failings when that person is getting up in front of everyone and talking on a regular basis. You might think it’s evil talk, you may even think it’s nonsensical babbling most of the time, but a shitload of people don’t think that. There are no consequences possible because this is an active choice, not a surprise outcome with a cover-up.

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        17 hours ago

        Just because a bunch of people are stupid enough not think his rankings are sane doesn’t make them so.

        If half the country said 2+2=5 would they be right too?

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          16 hours ago

          2+2=5 is not politics. Politics is a game of power, popularity, and persuasion, not math. If everyone in power says no, then it’s no.

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            Sanity is also not politics.

            Sanity is the state of having a healthy, sound, and rational mind, characterized by good judgment, emotional stability, and the ability to function rationally. It represents the absence of mental illness or insanity, often described as possessing “wholeness of mind”.

            Just because a bunch of morons believe him doesn’t make him sane or competent; to the contrary it shows their lack of wherewithal. They ALL need dealt with.

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              Outsiders can agree all they want about that fact, but truth is created in small rooms it seems, and that truth can be very different than day to day reality. The rules of the game that were setup are complicated, and the players are currently still willing to play even though they didn’t originally know or imagine playing the game this way themselves, it seems to them to be a valid way to play. The regular people also play along, because of the rules of the game, even though how it’s played has changed, and some rules they thought couldn’t be changed can be, so they don’t all like playing anymore, but they are always the first to try to leave the game, so there are many guard rails in place to see that they cannot disturb the real players too much. Even though they could… Generally they don’t. So no, sanity is not politics, but that’s already baked in.

      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        19 hours ago

        You can’t prove a cover-up for mental failings when that person is getting up in front of everyone and talking on a regular basis

        Buddy…

        If you standard of mental incompetence is not being able to physically stand up and have words come out of their mouth…

        You have a fundamental misunderstanding of too much to cover on social media.

        But as far as evidence, yes you can absolutely prove it for Biden term the receipts are already out. Fucking books have been written about it, people have gone on record already…

        JAKE TAPPER: A lot of us have covered Joe Biden’s aging, and the accompanying inability to do things the way he used to, throughout his Presidency. But what we uncovered, after the election was over, when all the people that we had been talking to for months and years, and all of the people who had been saying, “He’s fine, he’s fine,” were suddenly willing to talk about what had been going on. It was only after the election that we were able to get the insider point of view. Before that, the only insider point of view we really got was from the Hur report, when the special counsel described what he saw behind closed doors, sitting down with Biden for an extended period of time. Before that, it was a lot of: “He’s fine, he’s fine, he’s fine.” But Alex and I have spoken with more than two hundred people after the election. And, unencumbered by their fears of “if I say this, then Joe Biden won’t get elected or Kamala Harris won’t get elected,” they were much more candid.

        It’s very important that folks were noting that he tripped onstage at a graduation at the Air Force Academy, but comparing that to him not being able to conjure the name of or recognize George Clooney, somebody he’d known for decades and somebody throwing the most lucrative fund-raiser in the history of the Democratic Party—those are two different things. Noting that he mistakenly thought that he’d had a conversation with François Mitterrand as opposed to Emmanuel Macron—we all saw that and we noted it and we talked about it. But compared to him not knowing the name of one of his top advisers, in December, 2022—there’s a difference. What we found by writing this book is that everything that we saw going on in front of the camera was much worse behind the scenes.

        https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/the-new-yorker-radio-hour/jake-tapper-and-alex-thompson-on-president-joe-bidens-decline-and-its-coverup

        Bidens admin just didn’t investigate anything trump did, because they didn’t want to draw attention to what they were doing.

        But all three administrations were incompetent. I’m sure there’s enough bread crumbs to start building cases, offering please deals, and expanding and working up.

        Especially when you realize how valuable non appointed staff are on those investigations

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    22 hours ago

    The republicans are. It’s completely the GOPs fault for all of this. Never forget they are all enabling Trump, they selected Trump, they supported him, they protect him, they profit off him, they use him, they have all the power they need to stop this shit and everyday choose not to.

    The republicans are traitors and idiots and are solely responsible for Donald Trump.

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      22 hours ago

      Found on an Iranian Telegram:


      "As for people betting “Trump” won’t use nuclear weapons - they still don’t get “Trump” isn’t in charge of anything.

      This is an all-or-nothing bid by the US to maintain primacy over the planet before losing it permanently.

      The unelected US corporate-financier establishment - pushing for wars since the inception of America as a nation - have ALREADY USED NUCLEAR WEAPONS - TWICE!!!

      They considered using them on Korea, Vietnam, and even as recently as Afghanistan.

      DO NOT let the US pin this solely on a single politician, or an administration or a US proxy. Make sure EVERYONE involved is blamed and held accountable.

      This is called compartmentalization - dividing up your political fronts when dirty work is required so you can flush the consequences down with one or more of these fronts while keeping the political whole more or less intact.

      The US literally does this every 4-8 years with presidents and scores of wars of aggression and other horrible foreign and domestic policies - and they will do it with this time as well.

      It wasn’t “Clinton,” “Bush,” or “Obama’s” wars (although they are accomplices and equally guilty) - they are Wall Street and Washington wars - every single one of them - no matter who is picked to sell them and take the fall for them.

      If you never expose and hold Wall Street and Washington as a whole accountable, they will continue their compartmentalization game forever without end."

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        19 hours ago

        Correct: Statesian foreign policy has been fairly consistent. Internationally it matters less whether it’s a republican or a democrat in the white house (the biggest change is how much funding USAID gets and where it goes. Everything else remains consistent. At least that’s how it looks to me because I move in the nonprofit/NGO world) It’s where we see the ratchet effect most clearly.

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      19 hours ago

      Trump is the festering boil caused by the US refusing to wash its fucking arse

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      Yes, and no. Yes the GOP is pushing for all of this madness and obstructing any efforts to reign it in. But as much as it pains me to admit, most people in the US bear some culpability. In theory, if everyone old enough and well enough to do so unsupervised, traveled to their state capital or major city and basically flooded the streets with protesters, effectively halting all traffic and commerce, and refused to move until Trump was gone and the war was stopped, this shit would probably stop. Similarly, if everyone refused to work or spend any money, aside from the absolute bare minimum, this shit would stop. Of course there are a million reasons why this won’t happen. It weighs heavily on me that I’m still paying taxes and generally behaving despite the clear need for drastic action.

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        21 hours ago

        Putting this on the working poor is ridiculous. Most workers are not in a position to be as politically active as you want, or would be required. Just living requires all of our effort, especially after a decade of runaway inflation and job losses. Most of us under a relentless threat of poverty. Jeopardizing employment or income isn’t feasible. Living minimalist lives isn’t endurable.

        That’s like blaming the delivery driver when a gun sold at a store is used in a crime. Sure there’s a casual chain, but it’s not reasonable to place the blame there. MAGA elected these nuts, and the GOP and all its financial and political backers continue to enable and profit from them without regard to the consequences to others. We can debate how much blame to place where win the casual chain or argue who should have acted differently but the people with the gun in their hand who pulls the trigger is the most, and overwhelming, to blame.

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          To be clear, I’m not trying to “put this on the working poor”. I 100% get why most people aren’t in a position to act. Most people live paycheck to paycheck. This is not a safe place to risk your job, doing so is often risking your life (or your kids lives).

          The GOP, the political donor class and their supporters are absolutely awful and deserve the blame. However, we can’t pretend that we are 100% helpless to stop them. When we think about Nazi Germany, do we think “well, the average German didn’t really have control over the situation?”

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      22 hours ago

      Treasonous pieces of shit who need to be flushed down the drain with the rest of the administration.

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        21 hours ago

        And the only people who have that power, and will to do so, are preoccupied with working to survive.

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    16 hours ago

    I loved reading his definition of a war crime. It’s basically describing himself at this point, a person sick of mind who is powerful and rich with nuclear weapons. No reasonable leader gets on a social media platform and sends, “Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell – JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah.”

    No reasonable president threatens to destroy an entire civilization.

    It takes a sickness of the mind to justify hitting civilian targets just because they indirectly benefit the military.

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    We made one of the dumbest, most evil people this country has ever produced the President—twice!—and this is the consequence. We’re staring into the darkness, and on the other side of the void is a nuclear arsenal and a 79-year-old lunatic who has never made a wise decision in his life.

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      21 hours ago

      So what are we blaming all the other imperialist wars on? Was each president the dumbest ever elected or is there perhaps something else going on?

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    what is worrying is not that there are genocidal psychopaths’ threatening to kill everyone as they control the riches country in the world. The really frightening part is that there seems to be a whole ecosystem designed to normalize and rationalize their actions. With the democrats, the media, European leadership. Everyone has been trying their hardest to look the other way for decades on all the inhumane killings these ghouls have been perpetrating. And now they can go masks off, no shame threaten to destroy whole countries. Kill thousands in gaza and Lebanon, and people come out of the woodwork to defend them or even rationalize their actions.

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      Everyone has been trying their hardest to look the other way for decades on all the inhumane killings these ghouls have been perpetrating.

      That’s their job.

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    21 hours ago

    This hits the nail on the head.

    I hate sitting and wondering “are we gonna eradicate an entire country and start a global conflict or is our leader just on paint fumes”

    But I don’t have to hear Harris’ laugh though, right??? That’s worth this insanity???

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      17 hours ago

      But I don’t have to hear Harris’ laugh though

      What does this mean? Who is this critiquing?

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        17 hours ago

        Early in Kamala Harris’ campaign people were criticising the nervous laugh / cackle she did sometimes.

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    last I heard they brokered a cease fire. this may be taco but for the first time I don’t want to make fun of him for it.

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      15 hours ago

      Did Iran confirm this cause Trump says a lot of shit that’s not true. Like most of it isn’t true.

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        no idea which is why I wonder if its just taco. im just happy there is less loss of life then he was pushing for.

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          What I worry is he’s trying to nuke them but hegseth fired the people with the codes.

          I’m pretty sure there are fail-safes so that multiple top generals have to agree to a nuke. That way some crazy person can’t start Armageddon.

          Might take 2 weeks to get new key cards or whatever for new top generals. Or maybe 2 weeks to build a new nuke.

          (If I were an engineer on that I would intentionally make it not work,).

          Idk.

          But I think that he can’t currently nuke them. Because if he could. He would.

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            14 hours ago

            the way I understood it the president could do it but there is a person that carries it and knows the process and how to use the codes and such but if it goes through and passes a variety of verifications then a strike is called.

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              14 hours ago

              You sound more informed than me on the topic. I wasn’t really sure how it was set up, but thought there were some restrictions.

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                I would not count me as a good source this is just the impression I got from movies and the occasional article that have actually mentioned the process. There were articles about trumps first term about him repeadadely asking to carry the football and was told no because it stays handcuffed to the carrier who is conversant on the process. Whats kinda scarry is the president is supposed to know some things so the carrier can’t do it themselves and I really wonder if trump has the cognitive ability to do his side of it. Which kinda makes me wonder if vance or anyone has been given whats needed. Honestly im not sure if the vice presidents don’t in general get it as well just in case along with a few others. I mean there is likely only a very small group that knows for sure.

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    They’re probably hanging up the black sheets in the war room at mar-a-lago right now.

    Someone get Trump that white “USA” cap he likes to wear while bombing things.

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    21 hours ago

    Anyone in the Secret Service willing to pull a Jamie Lannister right about now? Please??

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    It’s TACO Tuesday.

    Trump always chickens out. No mistake Tuesday was the deadline. It’s in his DNA from all the fried chicken he eats.