The morality of torturing children cause they’re not from the chosen people.

  • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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    5 hours ago

    this reminds me of the copaganda show 24, where the sutherland characther pretends to torture the children to get a confession out of the parents. side rant-Gal gadot is literally in hollywood to shill for israel, she was in the IDF, which is why shes in dcu movies despite being a crappy actor.

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      Nah. The argument against that is god gave us free will, otherwise our decisions wouldn’t matter.

      Us being fucked up isn’t god’s fault; it’s ours.

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        This only works up to a point. Many loving parents will say their kids need to make their own experiences, but they will still keep them from sticking their hand into a power outlet. I wouldn’t say the kid’s choices have no meaning because of this.

        Also, if this is true, God also gave us our murderous instincts that make us use our “free will” in this way.

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          i agree with your overall point, but what “murderous instinct”? most people have trouble killing, someone has to condition them to be effective

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    I was permanently banned on reddit for commenting under this exact story that I think Islamic terrorists maybe have a point.

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      Well it maybe would have a point if they blew up IDF soldiers and not some random train station in Europe or a stadium full of kids and teenagers. All that achieves is more hatred against regular Muslims.

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        2 hours ago

        My comment didn’t accurately express that I meant it about the terrorist acts against Israel.

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          1 hour ago

          They’re not terrorists. They’re resisting the occupation of their lands. the only terrorists are the Zionist demons who gloat about the children they torture and kill.

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      3 hours ago

      These are for sure the reasons why humans decide to become terrorists

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    11 hours ago

    Israel becoming a country was a mistake, if this is the price of it.

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      7 hours ago

      It’s harder to separate Israel from its long term hard right conservative government, it’s like if Bush was president for the last 30 years.

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        Israel was founded by terror organizations operating in the British Mandate of Palestine. It has been this way for 70 years. This is the consequence of allowing a religious ethnostate to control the most controversial region of the world.

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    9 hours ago

    These type of things happening disprove the the belief of good gods. If this type of shit can happen, your supposedly “good” deities are either not powerful or fake.

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    14 hours ago

    I mentioned in my comment from the start and before making any edit that this cannot belong to the jewish religon. Same thing happened with ISIS who adopted a false supremacist murderous and evil idology of Islam. They enslaved Yazidi women and slaughtered kids and men whom they viewed as not from the chosen people.
    How the fuck was ISIS bad but Zionism is supported by Europe and the US and Western values? ISIS never represented Islam the same way Zionism does not represt Judaism. ISIS mirrors Zionism to the theeth btw. They were colonizing lands that was promised to them by god, slaughtering and raping people for their promised Khalifite who will lead their people to rule the world. They also needed a country for them to escape “the prosecution” they experienced everywhere in the world to practice their religon and exist in peace. Does ISIS have the right to exist??

    So lets not pretend these monsters dont exist regardless of what they claim their belief is; We judge them by their actions. The Episten files showed him and Donald Trump impregnating and aborting a mentally disabled kid numerous times. Also showed him mocking a girl who was asking Jesus for help because he absolutely does not believe in any god. Also showed his 1500 galons of acid tank that is connected to the swerage system beneath. There is an ongoing investigation regarding missing bodies in his NM ranch. There is hard undeniable evidence that this monsterous elite Epestien class exist and they do everything above the laws without shred of humanity.

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      No, this is the Jewish religion. They believe you do not have a divine soul, you are inherently lesser, you will be a slave to them when their messiah returns, and if you read about any of their heinous beliefs in the Talmud you should be killed. This is the consequence of allowing a religous ethnostate to control the most controversial region of the world.

    • BlasphemousTiefling@lemmy.ml
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      As an ex-muslim. I’d like to correct you that everything that ISIS did is mentioned in Quran and is actually a valid interpretation. In fact, a lot of it is mentioned directly by hadith and verses in the quran. Hence why you will never hear any religious institution calling them “kuffar” or people who have strayed and adopted a false supremacist view. They just really can’t do that because everything ISIS did can, and is justified by the quran and hadith.

      However, that is NOT to be taken in an islamaphobic way. The majority of the muslim population have no idea about this, as was I when I was still muslim. Simply because we don’t get taught in schools about it. Islam is a cancer, it has the potential to be used to justify horrible atrocities because the quran and hadith contain so much shit like this. Just like any religion really, but it also happens to be overrun by extremists who spread their extremist views.

    • daannii@lemmy.world
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      10 hours ago

      Isn’t there a decent amount of evidence that ISIS is in fact, the IDF. ?

      False flag operation.

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          5 hours ago

          Weird how ISIS only targets other Muslims.

          Even though it’s legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

          • BlasphemousTiefling@lemmy.ml
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            Even though it’s legit against the Muslim religion to kill other Muslims.

            Not really. Islam has a lot of denominations and interpretations of the quran. ISIS justify killing of other muslims as that these muslims are “kuffar” because they have not actively implemented the teachings of Allah and are silent and complicit in not implementing sharia law.

            Some denominations would say that those muslim people are ignorant and so there’s no blame to be put on them. ISIS’s sees that ignorance is not an execuse because in their opinion it is every muslim’s duty to learn their religion, and that if they did, they’d see that they must implement sharia law.

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    13 hours ago

    John Yoo rides again

    Cassel: If the President deems that he’s got to torture somebody, including by crushing the testicles of the person’s child, there is no law that can stop him?

    Yoo: No treaty.

    Cassel: Also no law by Congress. That is what you wrote in the August 2002 memo.

    Yoo: I think it depends on why the President thinks he needs to do that.

  • postmateDumbass@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

    Israel has been way over the line for a while.

    If we allow them, Team Trump, and the rest of the greed first lobby to continue, i can only hope for total and complete nuclear destruction.

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      9 hours ago

      I mean we’ve been allowing this shit to happen all over the world, and worse – it’s just not in the news because news about israel gets more clicks

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      15 hours ago

      Israel and USA have led by example and demonstrated what the world needs to do - targeted assassinations.

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      7 hours ago

      The fact that people aren’t talking about sudan and Myanmar where worse happens is telling, but this has better video coverage.

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      Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

      Historically, the bar has been set extraordinarily low. But that’s largely based on the question of informed consent. Articles like this aren’t going to show up on FOX or ABC or CBS, so long as the people perpetrating the crimes are Israeli. By contrast, if an Iranian or Russian or Chinese or <insert scary country here> police force engaged in such an act, it would be held up as an excuse for carpet bombing their power plants and assassinating their university professors.

      If we allow them

      We aren’t in a position to allow or disallow without a large scale mobilization of labor. Even then, a lot of what you’re talking about begins with boring bureaucratic shit like petitions and marches. The violence doesn’t just go away because some pollster can show a broad public disgust (for - again - events the major Western media isn’t interested in covering).

      Without assess to mass media, the public remains broadly uninformed and disinterested. Without a mobilized labor movement, there is no organizational support for individual dissent.

      Even when such things do exist (Italian and Spanish citizens have been at the forefront of the BDS movement), there are countervailing forces among the plutocracy that obstruct material change.

      The belief that you can unilaterally or rapidly affect sweeping international policy changes - that you are some Great Man of History who has volunteered to be apathetic - is going to drive you insane, if you let it.

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      14 hours ago

      Humanity needs to decide what level of barbarism we will collectively tolerate.

      I think it already decided and the decision was that this is fine.

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      17 hours ago

      There needs to be a better way to enforce geneva conventions and UN resolutions for countries at the top. Otherwise they’ll only bring them up when it’s convenient for them.

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      17 hours ago

      We can only hope for nuclear destruction, it’s one of the few things that ANYONE can do to pay for the crimes of Israel

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      19 hours ago

      Mengele surgically attached children to each other to recreate “Siamese twins”. He removed the eyes of a twin and implanted them into their sibling. He injected Typhoid bacteria into small children and opened their skulls without anesthesia.

      The IOF is a gaggle of genocidal maniacs. They torture, maim and kill. They are not worse than Nazi Germany. Little of what humans have done on this earth is worse than Nazi Germany.

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        Dude was obsessed with twins.

        He also once delivered a baby and lobbed it from the birthing bed into an incinerator, still alive, with the mother in the room.

      • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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        Little of what humans have done on this earth is worse than Nazi Germany.

        Maybe you should have a look into the Japanese “operations” in occupied China, then.

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        I’m not convinced we won’t hear about similar done in Israel. If they had any scientific incentive to do so, I have little doubt they would be willing to.