• Jo Miran@lemmy.ml
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    5 hours ago

    Performative bullshit. They’ll fund the fascist department they helped create (DHS) soon enough. Primary the old dems out!

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        It’s OK. Nothing would make me happier than to be wrong in this case. Hopefully they stick to their guns, shut down the gestapo, and finally do something to restore democracy and protect the safety of their constituents. I’m not holding my breath.

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          They won’t. The old guard is hopeless. We need a third party. A party that stands for the middle class. Abolish the electoral college, add Supreme Court justices, get rid of the filibuster, and tax the rich.

          Harris lost because she was more of the same. Trump won because he claimed he was in the outside and could fix this mess. We need outsiders. We need Mamdanis and Johnny Offstreets to stand for the middle class and save America.

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      It really is an annoying thing for the states they need them to have power but also push out as many idiots as possible before hand

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      My dude, the primaries are probably not gonna matter since Trump is very likely to just steal 2026 and 2028.

      None of this would be happening if Kamala had won, but you’re an .ml user so I wouldn’t expect you to be able to comprehend that fact.

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        Can we stop with the Kamalaposting now please? I don’t think any minds are going to be changed on that front anymore

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          Also it’s wholly irrelevant at this point. If someone didn’t vote for Kamala in 2024 and still thinks that was the right decision they are either so stupid so as to be involed, republican but I repeat myself, or just an asshole.

          Point is theres no point beating that particular drumb at this point.

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        All Kamala winning would do is delay the inevitable.

        Electing a Democrat to the Presidency these days is like draining an epidermoid cyst. Electing a Republican is letting the cyst rupture.

        Draining a cyst won’t get rid of it. The only way to remove a cyst for good is to cut the whole thing out.

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            3 hours ago

            A very boomer mentality. Who cares what happens to the kids so long as things go great for you, yeah?

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          All Kamala winning would do is delay the inevitable.

          #BothSides, for sure. But how do YOU define “harm reduction” and “binary choice”?

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            Easy. States that disapprove of unconstitutional laws and EOs can declare that they’re null and void in their states.

            Don’t think that the states are completely powerless against whoever occupies the office of President. They’ve nullified laws before, they can do it again.

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              States have their own legislatures. What you’re proposing is up to them. Federal legislators don’t have anything to do with state policy, they can only enact federal policy

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                Yes, it is indeed up to them. Do you see what I’m getting at here?

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                  Are you suggesting defederation? I view that as a last resort. Despite all the threats to electoral integrity, the election hasn’t been stolen yet. There’s still a chance to save this ship.

                  New England or the West Coast would be fine after a dissolution of the Union of States, but what about all the disadvantaged people in deep red states? You want to just leave them behind?

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                    No, I propose the thing that is less serious than secession, but will probably piss off the federal government: nullification. Basically, the state agrees to stay in the Union, but the state will no longer follow federal laws that they deem unconstitutional.

                    Take California, for instance. Suppose they are done with Trump’s shit. The California Supreme Court rules that Trump’s tariffs are unconstitutional, causing the tariffs to be voided in the state. While this is guaranteed to piss off Trump, it is likely that it would restore some faith with America’s allies. It might even give a boost to commerce that goes through California.

                    And remember: the exact situation I describe happened before in the US, and it ended peacefully. There were concerns of a civil war, but Congress passed some things to placate the state engaging in nullification. The same could be done today.

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        There’s only so much they can actually do. are willing to try.

        FTFY. They’d rather court Republicans than try progressive policy.

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        If only they would’ve done literally anything when they were in power.

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          Or they le have kept the government closed! We know for a fact them letting a temporary budget get passed. Their mediocrity has allowed conservatives to thrive.