Calling for schools and healthcare instead of tanks and bombs is not tankie crap. Tankies want the other side to have tanks, instead of the US.

Eww.

I assumed the mom was speaking.

Freedom to toil, freedom to starve, freedom to suffer without medicine or medical care. Freedom to freeze on the cold and bake in the sun.

True, and I do think we need to expand our imagination to include outcomes that don’t rest on Israeli hegemony.

That’s fair.

Not to my knowledge. I had understood that they were allowed to stay. In Rhodesia they had “their” land expropriated, so many chose to leave, and In South Africa they had their political dominance ended. The issue of land expropriation remains under debate.

In both cases it wasn’t bloodless, and south Africa retains a white population to this day, so clearly not genocided.

I am not deeply familiar with the history of Zimbabwe, so if you are, please enlighten me.

That’s a fair compromise. Sucks for the people born there, but it’s a lesson to not do colonization.

The majority of the Jewish population of Isreal are decended from the Soviet Union and the Middle East. When Isreal was founded 10s of thousands of Jews lived in North Africa and other middle eastern countries. Nearly all of them moved to Israel, and those countries will not welcome their children and grandchildren back.

Exile, statelessness, and ethnic cleansing are forms of genocide.

I admit that if there is no completely just outcome, I would side with the oppressed.

There are several generations of Israelis born Israelis. They don’t have anywhere they are from to return to.

I agree there is no realistic solution without genocide in sight, but that is not an excuse to support more genocide.

The isrealis need to be condemned and isolated from international support. After we accomplish that, we can re evaluate. They might not be so bloodthirsty if the US and other countries weren’t so ride or die for the IDF.

It would be a genocide against isrealis.

Nothing in what you said negates the fact that American can be better or it can be worse.

There is always a choice.

Fixing what trump has broken will be a generational project, and nobody will be given the time required.

80% chance the traitors in SCOTUS rule is constitutional anyway.

We thought we couldn’t do worse than Bush, but here we are. I’m not holding my breath for the future. I’m expecting 4 years of someone not a total asswipe and then we elect mecha hitler or someone somehow worse.

Calling it now, when striking military targets fails to get surrender, we will switch to war crimes, Israel and then the US will start hitting water, food, and transportation infrastructure.

The only way to get victory from this war is genocide.

China has geographical problems that hamstring it against American Empire.

Until/unless they build a blue water navy that can blockade America or an alliance system that can shut us out of the indo-pacific, they are fucked in a straight up conflict.

It was a power grab. The US intervened softly to stop the growth of the third Reich into a hegemon, funding Britain, France, and the Soviet Union.

When Japan hit Pearl harbor Roosevelt was forced to war and honestly he and his team were probably itching to get in there are flex American power to shape events directly. Truman finished things out trying to box in the soviets once it was clear the allies were gonna win.

Thelose are just “other rich people” that have the good sense to stay out of the public eye.