• msage@programming.dev
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    Just a small reminder that italians voted Mussolini’s niece to the government.

    So they also swing both ways.

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      They voted him, but after that he started a golpe… That it could be even worse, but he didn’t initially took power just because of people will.

      He mostly was loved by the richer class as a good way to stop communists and popular (leftie Christians)

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      I really needed a sequel of Italians vs. Billionaires

      Is the Italian Prime Minister #Meloni not a “friend” of Elon musk?

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      If Elon was just doing a Roman salute, then Luigi was just doing an Italian goodbye, right? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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            I know you’re joking but I don’t like this take, even as a joke. They’re people, and hurting them is violence. It just also happens to be the right course of action.

            Honestly, punching a nazi is the most loving thing you can do for them in the moment that they’re being nazis, because it shatters their illusion of superiority, and that gives them a chance to change, and a life of hate is not a good life. It’s miserable.

            You ever see this gif?

            Honestly an improvement in that guy’s life. Witnesses said he took off his armband after he woke up. Did he lose his fascist ideas, or just learn they were extremely unpopular and got a violent reaction? Whatever it was, he learned that going around dressed as a nazi was a bad idea, and that’s progress however you slice it.

            So rather than “nazis aren’t people” I prefer “punching a nazi is an act of love”.

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    The article says…

    …where the Tesla and SpaceX CEO made two stiff-armed salutes that many interpreted as a fascist gesture.

    Can’t say I care for that characterization. Half the world is trying to gaslight me about this but my fucking eyes work.

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      The local TV here in Portugal also did the whole saying “that some consider a Nazi salute” thing in their news segment about this …

      … and then showed Elon’s salute and a bunch of Nazis doing Nazi salutes as examples, leaving nobody in the audience but the blind in any doubt that Elon’s salute was the same as the salutes that the Nazis did.

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        Journalists are way too quick to 'both sides" stuff. (Not sure how much of an American problem it is.) I don’t think I’ve seen a single article that didn’t include the quote from those asinine Nazi sympathizers at the ADL.

        THIS, I like. Sure, maybe you have to report that he claims it isn’t. But bring receipts.

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          The problem is they never want to be wrong and unless Elon comes out and says it was a Nazi salute publically the media dances around it. The right knows this and plays the game pretty well.

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      This sort of chickenshit faux neutrality is why people are losing faith in corporate media.

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        This sort of chickenshit faux neutrality, that seems to believe the smart and sensible position is political illiteracy and “working on themselves first”, is the greatest asset to fascists.

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      It’s a step in the right direction, for sure. Still 100% ineffective unless it’s an actual billionaire instead of a dummy, then we can start calling it a protest. Anything less is masturbation.

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    Musk […] dismissed the backlash, saying, “Frankly they need better dirty tricks. The ‘everyone is Hitler’ attack is soo tired.”

    Someone end this man plz

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    My great grandfather’s buddy took the Mussolini corpse photos while they walked through and sold them to Time magazine, it’s sort of a 6 degrees of separation thing but still a fun fact

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      My grandfather didn’t get any close-ups with historic fascists, but he did shoot two Nazi planes out of the sky.

      And then my mom and dad voted Trump.

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      I’m down! Apparently I’m one of 2 million descendants of john howland.

      Didn’t learn of this until I stopped being an arborist.

      These things are fun and worth hearing about.

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        My understanding is that john fell off the mayflower and caught a rope, which saved him. Sounds like catching that rope wasn’t likely

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      I’m 40 this year I may just be getting too old but what does Based mean? I searched for it online previously and the explanation confused me but I see it everywhere along with cap/no cap and bet.

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        Well, there are counterexamples. Oswald Mosley just kind of rotted in jail until everyone forgot about him, IIRC.

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    Bravissimo! We Germans should chuck a burned “Leon Hitler” effigy in front of Hitler’s bunker in Berlin.

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    🎶

    Una mattina mi sono alzato

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao

    Una mattina mi sono alzato

    E ho trovato l’invasor

    O partigiano, portami via

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao

    O partigiano, portami via

    Ché mi sento di morir

    E se io muoio da partigiano

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao

    E se io muoio da partigiano

    Tu mi devi seppellir

    E seppellire lassù in montagna

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao, ciao

    E seppellire lassù in montagna

    Sotto l’ombra di un bel fior

    Tutte le genti che passeranno

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao

    E le genti che passeranno

    Mi diranno: “Che bel fior”

    E questo è il fiore del partigiano

    O bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao

    Questo è il fiore del partigiano

    Morto per la libertà

    E questo è il fiore del partigiano

    Morto per la libertà

    🎶

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    Wow imagine doing this and never watching the original video. An autistic guy said my heart goes out to you, just watch/listen to the source. smh

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      We’ve all watched the video. Notice how when Elon is saying my heart goes out to you, he normally doesn’t sig heil.

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      I did, and I saw not one but two Nazis salutes. I don’t mean to be ablelist if you’re blind and could only hear audio.

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        Nazi salutes don’t start from the heart like a pledge of allegiance the flag of America does. What flavor is the kool-aid you drinking?

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            Check back in 4 years. Nazi has lost all its meaning they way its thrown around today.

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              You asked for a nazi salute from the heart, and they gave you literal Hitler doing a salute from the heart.

              And your reply to that is that the word Nazi has lost all meaning?!

              My dude, you don’t even need critical thinking skills for this one. If you cannot straight up realize they are the same gesture, you may be suffering from brainwashing.

              You see, the other way I know it’s the Nazi salute, is because their policies are Nazi politics. It wasn’t just the Jews who ended up in camps: it was people of colour, gay people, and the disabled. A lot of Trump’s executive orders/campaign speeches fit into categories concerning those people.

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    Now I’m a peaceful person, but I can’t deny there’s a slightly disappointing turn a few words into that headline.