I knew Republicans would try and steal this election because that is what Republicans always try to do, but I honestly didn’t think they’d be so open and brazen about it
there’s no rule of law, American liberals are extremely meek, there’s no resistance, no reason for them to even hide it.
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“The Supreme Court ha declared that the only people allowed to vote in the next US election are six members of the American Nazi party from a small town in rural Mississippi. Chief Justice Roberts insisted that this was not a political decision.”
</satire>So since those 45,000 aren’t going to get representation, surely they won’t have to deal with taxation right?
So since those 45,000 aren’t going to get representation
You didn’t read the article…
And neither did anyone who upvoted you, which is even more depressing
Not much of an article really. I read it and the ballots are being tossed. What are you on about?
Because the election is being rerun
Because the vote is being rerun
… Until the GOP gets the results they want.
And you can guarantee those 45K voters can all get back to vote again when the government decides they’ll count it this time?
No election is being “rerun”. They simply cancelled the mail-in ballots of the primaries, and the gouvernor just points that the “real” vote happens in November.
What are you on about?
That it’s a primary…
And that the linked article clarified a new primary is held in July…
Do you understand if you’re nicer people will put more effort in and if not they’ll probably just not bother helping you understand something?
You’re acting like I need to argue with you about this, I don’t.
If you want to be wrong, I’m 100% ok just never trying to help you understand something
Do you understand if you’re nicer people will put more effort in and if not they’ll probably just not bother helping you understand something?
You’re acting like I need to argue with you about this, I don’t.
If you want to be wrong, I’m 100% ok just never trying to help you understand something
I had something much longer written after I saw this post, but I don’t think that approach will work with you. I delete so many comments before posting because I see you in a thread and decide it isn’t worth it. I agree with you on a ton of stuff, but you make me want to avoid so many interactions here. I must not understand what type of help you think you are giving people, but you are one of the few people I actively avoid because you come off so confrontational no matter what other people say. I don’t block you because I don’t think you are stupid or that your takes are necessarily bad, but hell, do you ever say them in the worst way possible so often.
This is solely meant to be constructive, I want so badly to like seeing your comments, but you make it such a challenge. After what feels like months of feeling this way, I just had to say it. If you approached your comments in a different way, you could be someone that I could really learn from due to the amount you share and the importance of a lot of it, but you make someone even as calm as I am just clench up and expect confrontation, so I go out of my way to avoid you. Take that how you will, but again, just an honest opinion and something intended to be helpful.
You left out the reason for re-running the primary: they needed the time to impose a racist gerrymander now that the Supreme Court said that’s OK.
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They incidentally would have all likely voted Democrat, but that is not a big deal either…
We’re fucked.
He’s absolutely right. It’s not a big deal, because no one will do anything about it. Republicans march toward fascism while Democrats wag their finger.
Why do you think a primary moving back two months is a big deal?
And how can those 45k ballots be used when some of the districts have changed?
I’m trying to figure out if I’m missing something, or everyone else is…
Because they did it so black people don’t get a say.
They redistricted to dilute the Black vote…
That is not what the headline is referring to with the 45k number…
That is the amount of votes that were already cast in a primary for the old maps…
And those ballots are discarded, and those voters will vote in two months in the districts they’re no in.
What you’re talking about isn’t what the article you’re commenting on is about buddy.
“But voting was already happening,” Vega said, cutting Landry off. “As we sit here right now, more than 45,000 ballots have been returned. What happens to those?”
In the previous article linked earlier, it says the primary will be in July, it’s confusing because in this article he jumps straight to talking about the general
Does it make sense now?
That is the amount of votes that were already cast in a primary for the old maps… And those ballots are discarded, and those voters will vote in two months in the districts they’re no in.
This is the problem. They’re being gerrymandered into districts to unfairly enhance the ability of the party in power to remain in power even though the majority of voters would rather they aren’t. That it’s also happening over racism is especially evil (basically saying “fuck those people in particular for their skin color, they should be our slaves again”), but the realm issue is carving up the map to subvert the will of the people.
I’ll go ahead and say it: Redrawing maps shouldn’t even be a thing.
You’re nitpicking semantics when fascism is taking place. And you’re being a dick fo some reason.
No…
I’m explaining that you don’t understand what the article you’re commenting on and you’re being very aggressive about it for some reason.
For some reason there’s been a steady stream of new accounts like yours accusing me of “being a dick” for explaining things logically.
I’m not a new account. You’re nit-picking semantics when fascism is taking place and being a dick about it.
Votes are being thrown out in order to make those votes not matter. If doesn’t matter if there will be a show election in two months, the result is the same. Previously “too close to the election” has been the repeated refrain to disenfranchise black voters with illegal maps, now it doesn’t matter that votes have already been cast. It’s naked and open and you’re arguing semantic details as if we need to maintain a front of stolid respectability.
No…
I said one comment. You’ve been arguing pedantry up and down this thread. Get outside or something, dude.
Weird…
You think the way to get someone to comment about something less…
Is to reply to them about it?
Yeah bud, facts and/or logic isn’t going to help.
I’m gonna block you now, if you want to keep replying me, feel free.
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This was done post the gutting of voting rights by the Supreme Court.
They’re no longer valid, because Louisiana now has the ability to racially gerrymander away black majority districts that were previously protected by law.
So these votes were cast in a world where racially based gerrymandering was illegal, but now that it’s not, Louisiana can KKK all over the districts, which is what they have done.
You’re saying, and have repeated it over and over, that race based gerrymandering doesn’t matter. That it’s actually good that Louisiana is now legally able to disenfranchise black voters through gerrymandering.
More than that, you’re saying that it’s okay to start race-based gerrymandering in the middle of an election, and in doing so, invalidate votes already cast, because it serves white supremacy and the Republican party.
And because I’m sure you will claim you’re not saying that, let me just get ahead of you by saying yes, yes you are, and you’ve made at least three comments in here saying how this is not a big deal, and that it’s actually good.
You’re saying, and have repeated it over and over, that race based gerrymandering doesn’t matter
Nope.
The decision is completely different.
What would be worse, is if they said those 45k already voted and counting them under the new map even if that meant the candidates that were voted for by African Americans in those two districts obviously can’t run in every district that their voters are now in…
That would be bad.
I’m not sure why you’re so upset about this instead of waiting to see if there was something you were missing.
Does it make sense now?
Because if you still have questions and ask them the same way, Im probably just going to never attempt to help you again
Sometimes it’s hard to tell if someone is speaking in bad faith, or is just a moron.
This is one of those times.
Just the 30+ point difference…
But you’ll have to find someone else to answer your questions now, best of luck
There’s not nearly enough civil unrest
The unrest has been very civil up til now.
Civil rights were grasped with the price of blood. “The tree of democracy must occasionally be watered by the blood of tyrants.” - Thomas Jefferson.
Exactly I’m with ya, ready with my lighter to burn it down
Hope it’s not a big deal when you suffer in your own hell for being a giant piece of shit, Landry.
So…
That was 45k primary ballots, for districts that aren’t the same as when they were sent out…
And a new primary with the actual districts will happen in July?
That legitimately isn’t a big deal unless I’m missing something here.
And progressive Dems are likely to do better after another two months of shit going to hell anyways.
Like, I hate to say it, but if you read more than just a headline I really don’t see how this is a big deal.
I’d say that this whole thing is a big bullshit deal, because they are fucking around with the election with the intent to give more power to the party that is tearing down America. It all should not be happening.
What shouldn’t be happening is the SC decision…
That should be the focus, not headlines that are basically lies to muddy the water and get people confused and disorganized instead of focused on the real problem…
But why would billionaire owned media want the people united and focused on real problems?
Im listening to a group of about 200 labor union lawyers at this very moment. Theyre saying its an existential threat to voting rights.
They’re likely talking about the redistricting…
If you think they’re talking about the 45k primary ballots that would be recast, I’d love a link.
But again, I think you’re talking about something different than the article you’re commenting on right now
They specifically mentioned the 45k primary ballots in Louisiana. Its part of the overall conversation. Im in the room with them so no link unfortunately.
The overall message from what Im getting is that the right wing is in lockstep to disenfranchise voters, and the 45k votes that were thrown out in Louisiana is a symptom of that movement.
Yeah, this is clearly a big deal. They started having an election and then cancelled the election after it had already started so they could redraw the districts and get a better outcome.
Could you imagine if they started voting for the presidential election and then they were like “hang on, we didn’t like where that was going. Pause for a few months so we can redraw the districts”? People would (rightfully) be losing their shit.
They specifically mentioned the 45k primary ballots in Louisiana
So that’s not the main topic…
They just mentioned it when talking about the larger issue…
Like, if someone said Hitler was one of the worst people to ever lived, and he was a bad painter…
Would you think the reason hitler was one of the worst people is be ause he was a bad painter?
This is a bigger problem than any one topic, this is a fundental logic flaw
I dont bother with bad faith. Best of luck.
I don’t think you know what “bad faith” means…
But you’ll have to find someone else to answer your questions now.
Little advice since you just left reddit 12 hours ago, becareful burning bridges here, there’s not a lot of people on here willing to help others understand things.
You’re gonna run out quickly at this pace.
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And a new primary with the
actualgerrymandered districts will happen in July?FTFY. The gerrymandering is the objectionable part here, and the new primary will produce gerrymandered results that don’t reflect the will of the voters.
Can we MAKE it a big deal?
The votes aren’t a big deal because they will be recast. His statement is therefore accurate. The big deal is the decision that prompted them to cancel the election in the first place.
Those 45,000 votes didn’t go away, they were just spread across reliable Red districts, which dilutes those districts, and makes them vulnerable.
It might not matter in a normal election, but in an election where Trump is deep underwater in even strong Red districts, we might find that they eliminated one district, but ended up putting two or more other districts at risk. In an election where Dems are more motivated than ever, and MAGAs are talking about sitting it out, those new districts might be in for a surprise.
In addition, at least 36 Republican seats are unopposed, and at least some of those will be surprised flips.
Always remember the most basic MAGA Axiom: MAGA is profoundly ignorant, and virtuosically incompetent. They fuck up everything, and they will fuck this up, too.
And then they will blame Biden and Obama, and say the Dems cheated.
That is what happened in 2018, most states were (still are) heavily gerrymandered for Republicans, but they had gotten greedy and left less margin on their districts, and the president’s assholeism saw them lose a bunch of those.
Between Epstein, and the betrayal of “america first,” with the wars, we could see a repeat of that.
So you’re right…
You’re just not talking about what the article is talking about…
Those 45,000 votes didn’t go away, they were just spread across reliable Red districts, which dilutes those districts, and makes them vulnerable.
The article is talking about a primary being pushed back to July, and that 45k people have already voted in it.
Those 45k will just vote in the next primary, this time along the same map that will be used in the general.
