These conditions are there to prevent them from killing more people.

And/or defend themselves the next time Israel comes knocking. Their occupation of more Syrian territory in 2025 certainly doesn’t inspire confidence.

If you’re referring about the war of '82 I assume you have either a very, very onesided or a very, very rudimentary view on that part of history.

No I’m referring to Shebaa Farms and the outposts they refused to leave in Southern Lebanon after the ceasefire.

Because only Israeli violations fucking kill people wth is this question? Also I like how you ignored the bit about occupying Lebanese territory.

Your attempt to whitewash the Israeli invasion of Lebanon (brutal enough that even Reagan told them to dial it down) was not missed.

But neither seems like a valid reason to keep attacking Israel today

Are Israel’s near-daily ceasefire violations and its occupation of Lebanese territory reason enough?

Do… do you know why Hezbollah was even founded? For a hint, here’s a literal former Israeli PM on the topic:

In 2006, former Israeli prime minister Ehud Barak stated, “When we entered Lebanon … there was no Hezbollah. We were accepted with perfumed rice and flowers by the Shia in the south. It was our presence there that created Hezbollah.”

Hamas, in one form or another, has been attacking Isreal for many decades.

One doesn’t become a victim due to being attacked; it takes being unjustly attacked to make one a victim. This makes certain individual Israeli civilians victims, but not Israel as a whole.

Just like the people of Gaza could have voted for a government that strived for a peaceful solution, but chose a violent one

With all due respect, this is the most historically illiterate thing I’ve read today. The only reason Hamas even exists is the complete and utter failure of peaceful solutions. And of course they failed; what, did you also expect the Irish or Algerians to strive for peaceful solutions? Rejecting peaceful solutions has been Israeli policy for longer than Israel existed. Hell, the current state of the West Bank should tell you all you need to know about what “striving for peaceful solutions” looks like,.

TF do you mean “apologist?” Hamas being a (and, in fact, by far the biggest) Palestinian armed resistance organization and the fact they do a lot of evil shit are two facts that can be true at the same time. That doesn’t mean supporting Hamas is victimizing Israel.

Iran has been arming resistance to Israeli colonialism for decades, but that does not in any way make Israel a victim. Palestinians and Lebanese have the right to defend themselves, and Iran has the right (and, like the rest of the world, moral duty) to help them defend themselves.

Victims in what way? They’re only taking an infinitesimally fraction of what they’re dishing out. A serial killing getting scratched every now and then isn’t my idea of victimhood.

No but they seem to overwhelmingly support their military’s actions. (Likely erroneously) assuming a uniform distribution, out of these 115 about 107 or so are in fact FAFOing.

I wish it happened another way (say, by the missile hitting its intended target), but in general it’s a good thing for Israelis to know they’re not invincible.

fuck the people in it.

Now that’s going too far. There are decent Jewish Israelis (though they’re an overwhelming minority), and of course 1948 Arabs have nothing to do with this.

Uh that’s clearly a metaphor, the intended meaning being that the current generation of global elites has no reason to fear the masses because the masses haven’t done enough to make fearing them necessary. “All the world’s ills stem from lack of corporal punishment” is outrageous enough that you should consider the possibility that you misunderstood.

Who said anything about 6 years olds? We’re talking about physically abusing 60-year old warmongering gerontocrats.

The only way to teach any generation in power is spanking; the only difference between this generation and previous ones is that previous ones still remembered the last round of spanking.

Sir this is a Wendy’s. Even if everything you said was true (it’s not), it has literally nothing to do with what I said. The vast majority of the DNC supports imperialism whether you like it or not.

Remember the Houthi blockade? It’s not that simple.

Then it would actually make some Republicans non maga, start to move away from maga

Maybe but that would do little to actually prevent the US from doing evil shit, because US imperialism is bipartisan.

The nationality of the ships isn’t important.

It is; Iranian, Indian and Chinese shipping, among others, is being allowed through the straits. Also you’re right, but as long as America gets to just bomb them at any moment their existence is at risk, so they’ll want some kind of guarantee this won’t happen again.

has much stronger democratic institutions and systems to push back.

I strongly doubt that (the US system of checks and balances isn’t weak; it’s just thoroughly compromised), but also even the strongest fort is useless without soldiers to defend it. These systems are meant to help the elites protect liberal democracy; defensive democracy is useless (or outright counterproductive, see Germany and Palestine solidarity) if the elites don’t want to use it. There are ways for the masses to protect democracy, but those don’t happen in courts and legislatures.

Brexit had a backlash

Sure, but it doesn’t seem to have discredited its far right backers.

AfD winning would show how shit they are to other countries.

Never expect rightwingers to meaningfully engage with reality. If real-life demonstrations were enough, Trump’s victory would’ve destroyed all far-right politics everywhere. That said I’m not arguing that all European countries will go fascist, only that enough will do so that Europe as a whole will lose most of its international influence. There’s no way Britain or France for example can compete with Russia or China on the international relations front (France in fact is failing right as we speak in West Africa); it takes the whole EU to keep Europe a world power player.

The same far right rot—propelled by the same declining living standards and affordability crises—that’s destroying America from the inside is also spreading rapidly in Europe, and the only group in a position to do anything about it is the same corporate centrists who failed to prevent it in America. The fundamental cause of America’s ongoing collapse—the ruling class’s inability/unwillingness to restrain the excesses of the system against the working class—is essentially identical to what’s going on in Europe. Europe might not feel like it’s collapsing, but America didn’t ten years ago either.