• wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe
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    12 hours ago

    Why would gay couples want to be blessed by a religion that actively demonizes them?

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    In reality, I believe there are much greater, more important issues, such as justice, equality

    mf saying they want to focus on equality while at the same time saying gay couples blessings, something that would bring EQUALITY, isn’t a priority… make it make sense 🤡

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      13 hours ago

      They believe marriage is for the sole purpose of procreation, which is their little loophole. They’re so weird about it that I’m surprised they’ve never pushed fertility tests as a pre requisite before allowing a marriage ceremony.

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        Then they should dissolve their marriages once their children move out, having fulfilled its only purpose. Staying married after you’re done having kids is lust, pride, and vanity.

        /s

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        If they truly believe that then why are they all celibate? They are chalk full of pedophiles too. Why I hate any post praising the pope. Fucker also lives like a king. Wonder how many of the popes are pedophiles themselves.

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          12 hours ago

          Priests cannot marry. Marriage and the Priesthood (Holy Orders) are the only sacraments that are mutually exclusive.

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            Eastern Catholic priests can marry, actually. There are married Catholic priests out there right now, and not because they converted in from Anglicanism after they married (though those exist, too), but fully cradle Catholics who were married before their vocation. Somehow this has not exploded the church or whatever. It is inconsistent and ridiculous.

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                This is one of those pieces of info I try to slip in whenever possible. I’m a firm believer that celibacy is bad for the mind, body, and soul when it’s forced on people. Priests may go into it willingly, but years and years of it with no reprieve does bad things to people’s minds. If the church could make one reform that I genuinely believe would be best, it is the celibacy of clergy. Tons of reforms needed, but that one is the one I think needs to happen soonest.

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            Still stupid it’s nowhere in the bible. Makes me believe the priest thing was made for repressed pedophiles.

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              The actual reason is because the church was protecting its assets from the priests. Back then, priests were very powerful members of local government and controlled a large percentage of the wealth in an area. If they could get married and had kids, their kids would inherit the wealth they accumulated instead of that wealth going to the church.

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          Historically the priesthood/other holy orders was a place to toss the weird people or undesirable heirs. It was a convenient way for the gay uncle to have a respectable job and explain why they didn’t have a wife. It was also a way to keep pedo types isolated but productive, at least until resources led to many orders dissolving.

  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    So he thinks other issues should be focused on, but wastes time addressing this? How is reciting a prayer for a few additional couples taking away from Equality? Seems to me, it helps the issue, no?

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    Periodic reminder: the Episcopal Church exists. Has all the rituals and sacraments, the Apostolic Succession, but also ordains women and Queer people to the priesthood and blesses their marriages. The Episcopal Church is present in Germany (part of the Episcopal Church in Europe, formerly known as the Convocation of Episcopal Churches in Europe).

  • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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    9 hours ago

    Leo does a god job of being Pope, in that he is a centrist. Everyone can have something they agree and disagree with him; that way he is guaranteed to reach a wider audience.

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    15 hours ago

    Am I misreading? leo is saying he does NOT agree with the cardinal saying it’s fine for same-sex marriage?

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      Yeah. Cause he’s still a homophobic piece of shit, he’s just an anti-war homophobic piece of shit. We should not be surprised by this.

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        figured as much, i guess. TIL the catholic church is bigoted as fuck. More at ten.

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          To his credit he is slightly less homophobic than is the norm for the Catholic Church. But that’s kind of like saying someone is less fascist than Mussolini. Objectively better than the alternative, but not actually good.

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            13 hours ago

            Yeah, I’m sure he can turn a blind eye on gay sex if it’s between a grown man and a little boy.

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      14 hours ago

      OK, for marriage. Not OK for unmarried relationships. That’s how I read it as well.

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      “The Holy See has made it clear that we do not agree with the formalized blessing of couples, in this case, homosexual couples, as you asked, or couples in irregular situations, beyond what was specifically, if you will, allowed for by Pope Francis in saying all people receive blessings,” he said
      

      Or, without all the fluff

      “The Holy See has made it clear that we do not agree with the formalized blessing of couples ... beyond what was specifically ... allowed for by Pope Francis in saying all people receive blessings,” he said
      

      So if Francis said it was ok; it’s fine. But it seems like Francis said it wasn’t fine.

      At the same time though, I’ve started to loose lose trust in media outlets and idk how reputable NewsWeek

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    Of course he is. See, gay couples have less kids, which will further reduce the catholics numbers… cause most religious people were indoctrinated as kids. The number of adults who willingly become catholic if not raised catholic is tiny in comparison. So they need to keep the gays among them pretending to be straight and having kids for show and proof.