An internal Pentagon email outlines options for the United States to ​punish NATO allies it believes failed to support U.S. operations in the war with Iran, including suspending Spain from the alliance and reviewing the U.S. position on Britain’s claim to the Falkland Islands, a U.S. official ‌told Reuters.

The policy options are detailed in a note expressing frustration at some allies’ perceived reluctance or refusal to grant the United States access, basing and overflight rights - known as ABO - for the Iran war, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity to describe the email.

The email stated that ABO is “just the absolute baseline for NATO,” according to the official, who added that the options were circulating at high levels in the Pentagon.

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    Spain has pushed back against the Palestinian Genocide and has become the most critical EU country againt Isreal.

    Of course the US has to make an example out of them before it spreads.

    Don’t fall for the propaganda.

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    NATO is a defensive treaty. No NATO member was attacked by Iran. As usual, Trump is full of shit.

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      Remember, when they say something obviously untrue, it’s not because they think you’ll believe it, it’s because they need it to be true in order to justify what they’re going to do next.

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    So they get all the protection of NATO, since geographically Russia would have to fight there way through the rest of Europe to get there, with none of the obligations.

    Trump proving he is the master of the art of the deal

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      Without the US? How the North American Treaty Organization exists without US?

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      Yeah, this is a really good way to just end up with ‘EUTO’ or something like that, and then the US losing its leases on… what, basically all of the European bases sans the UK?

      That would uh, kinda royally fuck our logistics, even more than they are currently fucked.

      Anyway, I guess we should just rename London ‘Airstrip One’ at this point.

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    Isn’t NATO a defensive organization? Crybaby taco Trump is acting like they’re his personal army and if they don’t attack who he says to attack then they should be punished…

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    I’m sure Spain wouldn’t mind. At the same time they can leave all their bases in Spain. Frankly at this point NATO would be better off without the US.

    It’s time Europe stood in it’s own, but for US that means leaving all bases in Europe and Europe no longer sharing intelligence or purchasing US military hardware.

    Good luck being a pariah state.

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      EU is also reducing and disconnecting financial systems, infrastructure, software, critical trade and a bunch of other dependencies. The US and their businesses are less happy about that part.

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        I pity any country that is slugged with buying food from the US. For a country obsessed with meat, they sure are bad at producing any worth a damn.

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          Well, that’s because you seem to think the same thing makes good “meat” regardless of the cut or even animal…

          American beef is shit for steaks, but is the best hamburger meat. Most of our beef that’s exported is ground to be mixed with “local” beef in other countries for hamburgers due to the higher fat content in American beef.

          Anyways, it was just weird to see someone mention all those big issues, and then someone to chime in with something that really doesn’t matter and they clearly don’t understand

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      And they can kick NASA out of the Madrid station on the Deep Space Network.

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    All the more reason for the EU to leave NATO as a united bloc.

    What value does a defense alliance have when the most influential country in its ranks is ruled by a psychopath who openly threatens its members with a war of aggression and commits the most heinous war crimes elsewhere in the world?

    We simply have to be realistic: The U.S. is now the enemy of the free world. Nothing will ever change that, because the American people will never rise up against their own downfall.

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      The U.S. is now the enemy of the free world.

      Correction: The “free world” is the enemy of the free world, because that’s how late stage capitalism works. The EU seems poised to follow in America’s footsteps, if anything. Also if the “most heinous war crimes” part was a dealbreaker NATO never would’ve existed.

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    trump still thinks america is boss of the world. If anything, the UN is the boss of the world. We need to make it (the U.N.) stronger in our push for united globalization. It’s hard though when you find corruption everywhere on all sides.

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    They might wish to learn more of what it takes to float tankers through a particular strait rather than dumb ideas.

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    NATO is already dead. Nobody believes that the.participating nations will act to protect one another.

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      If an enemy actually comes they will defend one another … but the suspicion lies in that only the US just goes meh, not interested.

      On top of that, trump seems to reason to himself that he is being attacked by Iran, and therefore NATO (which is a defensive only alliance) is supposed to help, which it is not.

      Trump attacked Iran… for dubious reasons worse than the Iraq debacle, so the allies who trump already spat in their faces have no interest getting pulled into his war whatsoever.
      This is trump’s war on all fronts, not NATO’s, and does not come with a moral contract to let him use any other countries’ assets if they disagree.

      The situation would change dramatically if Iran actually did attack a NATO member.

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        Yeah, you’ll absolutely see Canadian and French, even Turkish boots on the ground if Germany calls for self defense. The US on the other hand depends on trump’s mood (though actually I suspect congress would rapidly declare war to defend them)