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Not sure who still needs to hear this, but the Republican party are traitors to the United States of America.
They’ve abdicated their Congressional duties and signaled that they are fine watching this country crash and burn to give a single man the power of a king.
They aren’t going to remove him.
Want him removed? Give Dems the House and Senate.
8 million people showed up for no kings. You are telling me we couldn’t get a chunk of them to follow a senator around to remind them who they work for?
I’ve written all Dem candidates for Statewide and Federal office in my State, asking what they’ll do to punish these folks and strip them of their ill gotten gains. I made clear no response = no vote, primary or general.
ONE candidate responded.
I have no faith Dems will do shit.
That’s where I am. I’d rather see tho whole thing burn to the ground that vote for another “time of healing” bullshit democrat. I want fire and fucking brimstone. Someone, a bunch of somones better serve some damn jail time or i’m never voting again.
Eyup. I often write here that citizens respect the constitution, patriots defend it, and traitors violate it. In the us anyway.
The sycophants in Congress WON’T stop this because they agree with him and with everything he’s doing. Congress won’t stop his insanity.
Only things similar to what went down in France circa 1793 will stop him. That’s gotta come from the people. Not from toadies, yes men, and cultists.
I keep reminding people that the 25th Amendment is not the solution here, because it requires a higher bar to enact than simply impeaching the guy. You need to have the VP and half the cabinet on board to trigger it, but then the President gets his office back by simply telling Congress “Nah, I’m good”. But then if the VP and cabinet still insist, it would take a 2/3 vote of both houses to trigger.
Impeachment requires no Cabinet officers, and only a majority of the House (but still 2/3 of the Senate to convict).
It would be fitting, though, if for all the dumb, impeachable shit he’s done, the thing that finally did it was swearing in a tweet on Easter…
That would be something. Raping a whole bunch of kids, and women and countries and businesses is fine… but they draw the line at swearing on Easter…
Christians are fucking strange.
You mean “Christians”.
It doesn’t seem like there’s an especially substantial call for the 25th Amendment, buuuuuut the 25th isn’t strictly a downgrade to impeachment:
- First, yes, impeachment is only 50% House, 66.7% Senate. Boom, out, donezo. Taking the numbers alone without any other context, that’s easier than VP, majority of department heads, 66.7% Senate, 66.7% House (which is even more far-right than the Senate).
- However, when invoking the 25th, the VP and a majority of department heads are the ones who initiate the proceedings, and there’s an active, visible struggle for power within the Executive Branch.
- If the cabinet were to effectively throw a coup (because let’s be honest: none of the ghouls in Trump’s cabinet give a flying fuck about his ability to execute the law and would not be in it for the betterment of the US), then it gives a major swing in credibility compared to just a House impeachment. This is especially true because Section 4 has never been invoked.
- I would argue for this reason that, while removal of Trump by Congress via impeachment is functionally impossible, public opinion would swing wildly if Trump’s cabinet started 25th Amendment proceedings, and it also puts the initial onus on Trump to establish that he’s capable rather than the onus on Congress to establish that he’s not (or rather, that he committed “high crimes and misdemeanors”).
- Thus, you can maybe swing for the fences with the 25th if you can convince enough of Trump’s cabinet that Trump is a sinking ship (and thus Vance becomes POTUS, debatably in his own self-interest). Impeachment isn’t overcoming the numbers game, but the 25th could (just potentially) change the numbers.
- It’d be divide-and-conquer: the Democrats all want Trump out of office ASAP (obviously, because they’re sane), while the Republicans in the House and Senate would be reckoning with siding with Trump or siding with his cabinet (and whoever their supporters are) – all while the general public bleeds remaining faith in Trump as even his cabinet are challenging his fitness, and while the question at hand is a lower bar than “high crimes and misdemeanors”. In an impeachment trial, it would just be “Democrats or Republicans” to the Republicans.
TL;DR: The argument for the 25th is that, if you can get the ball rolling, it might actually be possible compared to impeachment proceedings which currently, inarguably, are not.
Bingo.
Vance is going to want to be seen as leading the coup, not being handed the job. But it’s not happening for another 10 months. First, he needs a new Congress, one who is already itching for impeachment. And if he’s waiting for Congress, he’s going to wait another three weeks: so long as he only takes half of Trump’s term, he remains eligible for two full terms himself.
Vance will exercise Section 4 of the 25th after January 20th, 2027.
One rebuttal I’ve heard in a previous discussion of this is that Congressional Republicans might have more appetite for removing him for “medical incapacity” than “high crimes and misdemeanors” because it allows the party to save face.
Impeachment is a political tool, and doesn’t change anything unless removed. They won’t do that.
He ignored impeachments
No he didn’t. The senate voted not to convict.
Impeached by the house, acquitted by the Senate.
AND the 25th will work even less effectively, did you read the above comment?
Couldconstitute war crimesBlowing up a school and murdering 168 schoolchildren is absolutely a war crime. Journalists need to grow a spine and stop trying to spread uncertainty by soft-pedaling this shit.
For that you need journalists who get paid by someone else than Bezos or Ellison. Something that does not exist, as Pichai (Google) and Nadella (Bing) censor the search results in a way, so they never see any light of day.
No they need to tell the story from all point of views. Don’t you ever think about the kid’s shooters mental state? /s
We could possibly hurt Trump’s feelings by calling him a child rapist charlatan war criminal. We need to consider his feelings as well.
What to know about the 25th amendment? It is not going to happen for Trump. That’s all there is to know.
Actually it just might. Republicans need to drive down the blue vote before the midterms. Voter suppression measures aren’t enough. Trump keeps threatening to die but hasn’t. If they remove him before the midterms, it could remove the motivation for dems to show up.
They may just feed Trump to his own leopards.
It’s more likely that the military will assassinate him than that Republican politicians will betray him.
That will never happen. He purged the military. They follow him blindly and willingly. The army is FULL of orange shitgibbon cultists.
I didn’t say it will happen. I said it’s more probable than Republicans betraying him.
Or a dark cabal poison him, etc.
Then they can leverage him as a martyr instead of fracturing the party.
They won’t do it unless shit gets way way worse first.
Oh this isn’t the bottom?
There is always more down
But but but this time is different!
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How can you possibly know that?
You can’t, so why pretend that you do?
Well if you haven’t noticed, literally nothing has happened to this 34+ felon child rapist yet, so why would this? It’ll not work for the same reason nothing else has: he owns the deciders AND the enforcers.
By your logic, if x has never happened, x will never happen.
See how that doesn’t make any sense?
Except for the reason that they explained. If the people that would make this happen are comprised, how do you think it could happen?
His party is poised to get wiped out in the midterms and he’s getting less popular every day. They can’t win in 2028 either while he’s still around so the only question is when they decide to pull the plug, assuming he doesn’t keel over in the meantime.
And to the point the other poster stated, they aren’t turning on him yet. It would be nice. But the outlook is still very bleak.
This article should be titled “Five people have recently tweeted about the 25th Amendment”
One of them is Anthony Scaramucci. Why the hell do people think we need to hear anything from him?
Well based on the presidents actions, all governance is done over social media… maybe they’re trying to follow suit?
He had one whole Scaramucci to do something, and he didn’t.
I’d say the recent spate of firings has brought him back into the news.
Scaramucci is always in the news. It’s a pet peeve of mine. The guy worked under Trump for like a week 10 years ago and the media has been hanging onto every word he’s said since.
Google his name and click “news.” Six stories about scaramucci today that aren’t about the 25th amendment, all of them stating the obvious. “Scaramucci alleges market manipulation during Iran war.” “Scaramucci warns of stagflation” “Scaramucci says war is to distract from Epstein files”
I could say a bunch of shit that everybody else is already saying.
Guess I’m lucky, then. The Mooch doesn’t come across my transom frequently.
- It won’t be used.
Mark my words, the 25th amendment won’t even be considered until January 20, 2027. After that point, the remainder of the term is a freebie for Vance because he’s still eligible for 2 full terms.
What you are ignoring us that the new Congress will be in place by then, and as long as the election isn’t ratfucked the Democrats will probably gain a slim House majority. This means not only that the Democratic Speaker will be third in line for the Presidency, but also that the Democratic House (and the Senate)will have to approve whoever Vance picks as his VP. They could just sit on it and not do anything, in which case the VP slot remains vacant, and that House Speaker is now second in line (plus, ties in the Senate can’t be broken, which can be handy if Republicans still hold that.)
So, they may pull the trigger* early if they don’t think the Congressional election is in the bag
*= Hey, FBI, that’s only a metaphor…
Vance is going to need that new, impeachment-ready Congress in place before his coup, or his coup will fail.
Which is a good thing…
trump in office being obviously crazy will depress R turnout because their candidates have to say they agree with the crazy shit.
Dems will have a lot of “free” votes because they just have to point out how bad shit is.
Vance’s personal pursuit for max power is going to fuck their movement over.
It’s why we need to start making sure every Fem.politicians values party/country over their own personal.power.
Not to doom-reply, but…
their candidates have to say
Dems will have
[x] Doubt
Because they just have to point out how bad shit is? They did that before and Trump got elected again.
Requires Vice president and majority of his cabinet. I’m guessing (sadly) highly unlikely.
Jesus Christ those ai nose hair ads!
Ublockorigin blocks all ads and they cannot see you doing it to make you not block them. It’s not an actual ad blocker it’s like a Content blocker. Download it directly from their website as tech companies no longer host it
That you’re still seeing ads in 2026 says more about you
My phone doesn’t have an ad blocker
Firefox +uBlock Origin works on old Androids. I’m not sure about new versions, iOS, or other phone OSes tho.
I don’t think I could go back to using browsers with ads, or videos with sponsors.
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