• brachiosaurus@mander.xyz
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    11 小时前

    For any US soldier reading this thread: you are attacking another country to cover up for your pedophile president.

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      Yup. Apparently the Clintons testified in front of Congress yesterday regarding the Epstein files. That’s not high on the list headlines today.

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          As the other comment says, these aren’t illegal orders. Wrong? Obviously. I don’t think there’s anything that could possibly make this illegal though. The only potential argument is that only congress can declare war, but that’s been pretty much fucked since the end of WWII. It’s illegal for them to tell you to target civilians. It’s legal for them to tell you to invade some foreign nation, for any reason.

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          This is not clearly illegal. Disobeying these orders would get you a court martial, and they will say it was legal.

    • Berengaria_of_Navarre@lemmy.world
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      WWIII has been going on for a while, its just not really affecting north America or western Europe yet but Israel/Gaza/Iran, Yemen, Syria, Ukraine/Russia, and all the conflicts in Africa are 100% connected. Not an official definition or anything, but I’d say if a war affects 3 out of 6 inhabited continents it counts as a world war.

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        i’d say open sea predation by rivalling armadas on the other’s shipping supply lines and generally more a focus on interrupting the global infrastructure of the opponent would be a characteristic sign of a world war. now this is also contentious, when does an interruption count? only when it’s done through violence?

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      Fpr the record, this is noto world war three, rather cold war two, the fascist boogaloo, the enemy within. Trademark.

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    Weren’t a bunch of analysis predicting this? The trump administration had apparently requested that Israel strike first to provide a flimsy excuse for firing their own missiles at Iran when the Ayatollah and his gang inevitably retaliates against Israel.

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      We were also predicting that israel would use their epstein blackmail to start their forever war. We were right.

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      Israel has already stated officially that this was a joint attack with the US.

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        I hope Iranian civilians stay safe. As for the government? Don’t care.

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        This is disgusting. The Zionists are bombing Iran and this is your reaction? Why are you running propaganda for the Zionists?

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          How is this propaganda? The iranian government literally killed thousands of students who were protesting in the streets only a few weeks ago.

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            Guys, guys. Chill.

            Both of these countries are killing their own civilian population. But now one of them is also killing the other country’s population as well. Probably soon to be joined by the other doing the same in return.

            Let me just be the anarchist in the room and say fuck both of these countries. Fuck every country. We shouldn’t have countries. And we especially shouldn’t have countries that kill people, no matter which side of an imaginary line they’re killing people on.

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              One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs, the other is dropping them, don’t both sides this shit because Iran isn’t perfect.

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                I’m not trying to ‘both sides’ this shit as much as I’m trying to ‘no sides’ this shit.

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                  You can’t no sides when you live on the side that’s dropping the bombs. The actions your words encourage within the west are the same that the most bloodthristy warhawks encourage. You are not supporting the Iranian people’s struggle by opposing the state protecting them from your state.

                  When a zionist says that Hamas doesn’t support gay rights, do you think they are trying to support gay struggles in Palestine? No they’re trying to justify murdering more palestinians, just like anyone who says “Iran also bad” in this thread.

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                One of these countries is defending its civilian population against US bombs

                Is the US dropping bombs on Iranian civilians? Or are you conflating Israel’s actions in Palestine with this?

                I’m not going to be upset about the Iranian government getting killed, any more than I would be if Iran launched a counter-attack on Mar-a-Lago and killed Trump, or Netanyahu. In fact, I hope that happens. Fuck ‘em all.

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                  Is the US dropping bombs on Iranian civilians?

                  Yes, have you seen literally any time the US has gone to war anywhere in the last 80 years? We can’t even invade Panama or abduct the president of Venezuela without murdering hundreds to thousands of civilians.

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            Israel has murdered at least 21,000 CHILDREN over the past 30 months. To think that they have any moral standing is moronic at best, but more likely pure evil.

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              You’re referring to confirmed violent deaths. The number of victims including food deprivation, lack of medicine and sanitation and consequent diseases since Oct 7th is above half a million, about half of them children.

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                Yes, I’m only referencing deaths attributed to direct military action - or the IDF’s direct murder of children with bullets and bombs. This is not to minimize the horror they have inflicted through genocidal policy.

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                  Yeah, I wasn’t trying to be belligerent or anything, just wanted to bring attention to it. Thanks for your reminder of the violence of the Zionist entity, we will not forget this

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              …and the sky is blue. But how is this propaganda? How is invading another country, propaganda for zionists?

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                I think they mean that you can’t fully trust the narrative about protests you read in the Western media. There is Israeli and US involvement in those protests trying to instigate regime change.

                So the OP above is parroting Israeli/US propaganda by saying the protests are a justification for the latest military action.

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                Making a statement that minimizes state violence because it’s against a state that undertakes state violence is still minimizing state violence. In this instance it is minimizing the violence of a genocidal state that is far more violent than the state it is attacking for undertaking state violence.

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            Well in this case, Casey is literally an LLM bot so it’s probably propaganda. Check their modlog.

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            So Israel and the United States are going to respond by murdering the rest of them? You do know that they bomb indiscriminately correct? I just don’t understand your argument here. If you’re concerned about civilian deaths how could you be supportive of this. They literally bomb hospitals.

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    Orange cunt shaking his shriveled dick covered in shit form his overfilled diaper. Way to go, USA!

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    The Zionist regime’s thirst for blood cannot be quenched… All my support to the people of Iran, I hope this doesn’t turn to disaster for them the same way it happened in Iraq or Afghanistan…

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    The consciences of those honourable men and women serving their old country (the usa) must be taking a severe beating.

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    Americans think they wont face consequences of their actions, thats why they do this

    We need to make them face consequences

    GO IRAN!!!