Donald Trump said Friday his administration will take action on Greenland “whether they like it or not,” further escalating his rhetoric as he pushes to acquire the Danish territory for the U.S.

The comments came during a meeting with oil executives to discuss the prospect of doing business in Venezuela. Less than a week earlier, the U.S. military invaded the oil-rich South American nation and captured its leader, Nicolás Maduro.

Denmark and its European allies in NATO – the military alliance co-founded by the U.S. – have pushed back, reiterating that Greenland is not for sale. But the Trump administration nevertheless says it is currently weighing a range of options on Greenland, including utilizing the U.S. military or cutting a deal to purchase it from Denmark.

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    Do you fucking idiots really think the Epstein files would change anything? On top of that the U.S. just invaded a foreign nation, kidnapped its head of state, and is trying install a puppet government all because of oil and ego, and are now openly talking about doing the same to another nation. They can be doing more than one bad thing without it being a distraction, you can also be focused on more than one thing, especially when one of those things is an international act of terrorism that is actively hurting an entire country outside of the states.

    Stop making everything about just one thing and give issues the attention they deserve for what they are, squawking “epstein files!” at everything makes the epstein files a distraction from everything else, you fucking tools.

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        Are yall slow or what, why do you still need those files, can’t you put two and two together, you gonna do nothing untill you got every last single file?

        No. It’s that he thinks this will get the news cycle off the files, which will let him solidify power. It’s also that he’ll sacrifice as many people as he wants to ensure those files don’t get out. He’s right too. Old news is dead news. It’s that our news, and our politicians by extension, are easily manipulated.

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          Ok then what will happen when all the files appear then what? its not like y’all will protest or do anything yall cant even unionize for normal working conditions. If you gonna protest after all the files appear, then you can protest NOW already.

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            Ok then what will happen when all the files appear then what?

            Congress will then have to attach their names to diddling kids. Even if they did, their donors won’t tolerate it. If they did, then the guillotines come out.

            If you gonna protest after all the files appear, then you can protest NOW already.

            We already are. People are angry but, if politicians as a whole throw their names behind fucking children, that’d be throwing gas on the fire. That is when the protesters start getting violent. The cops are using lethal force now, but the political class saying that its okay for them to start sticking their penises into 11 year olds is when the prorestors start shooting back. It’d also be alienating to cops, national guardsmwn, and the military too. Everyone has kids in their family, and that’d be asking them to sign off on their family being raped too.

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              He became president 🥲 so you think “When everything becomes public, the political class is morally exposed.” Most of this was already public before his first term. If it didn’t lead to consequences then, it won’t magically do so now. I wouldn’t count on it that the release of all the epstein files will change anything or lead to consequences. And I also hear that most americans dont even follow the news or dont care whats going on with politics or even support whats going on. You can protest but organizing mass strike works better tbh. put the american economy to a standstill if you really wanna change something.

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                Most of this was already public before his first term.

                True, and a lot of people put on blinders of convenience. But that convenience falls away infront of an Epstein pic of DJT fucking a 10-year-old.

                Put the american economy to a standstill.

                It would be nice if the American people could afford to do that, and maybe we could have at some point before the 80s. But, we had Regan who sold the “idea” of trickle-down ecconomics. Now, people are too broke to quit/protest, and doing so would mean they could no longer get any medical care (not that they could much before, but any healthcare is better than no healthcare) and they’d lose access to food and housing. Simply, Americans haven’t been desperate enough on this to die yet. But, it’s getting there. Remember, the French didn’t bust out the guillotine right away. It wasn’t until food shortages got bad and the workers had literally no money that they stormed the Bastille.

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    While we fight USA in greenland, if we not just give it to them, putin will attack our eastern borders I bet. Thanks so much trump for idk whats going on anymore tbh. Nazi corruption or something, but also semi good cause Maduro was also evil? idk anymore man

    Not like american citizens follow the news so yeah not like americans are able to stop this evil from the inside out, they aren’t able to mass strike or whatever, most americans got no idea whats going on, america will get what they want whenever they want cause they the most powerful. But the business relationships will be over hopefully after Greenland., good luck with your billionaire tech companies without customers from the EU.

    Thanks trump for weaking your friends, for making putin more powerful… Thank you trump for bringing neo kolonialism back, Thank you trump for a global war, Thank you trump for hating and oppressing the weak, not protecting the weak.
    THANK YOU TRUMP FOR WORLD WAR III

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    Donald Trump is a deranged lunatic and an existential threat to the US and its citizens, and to people around the world, and that renders him unfit for office. He needs to be removed as soon as possible, while there’s still some possibility that the extensive harm that he has done and is doing might be reversed.

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      I hope he tries The Thing that finally gets domestic power to remove him. 25th amendment, impeach & remove, resign. Whatever. None of those seem particularly likely at this point.

      I very much hope he doesn’t ever get the opportunity to do The Thing that finally gets a foreign power to stop him. He’s had no consequences so far. Barely any meaningful resistance. It’s hard to imagine what someone with his brain damage thinks, but he doesn’t have any evidence that he can’t do whatever he wants, and it won’t be surprising if he tries.

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        I find it essentially impossible to believe there is a The Thing for the first one. Where things are at now, I can’t even imagine what that could possibly be.

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        The 25th amendment is invoked by the cabinet and the vice president. Those are the people supporting this shit, they aren’t going to get rid of him. He’s doing what they want and giving them cover.

        I would say that the only thing that could convince them to remove him is if he became such a liability that they felt the need to get rid of him out of self-preservation. But honestly, I don’t think they have the necessary level of awareness. If anything, I suspect most of them would be more likely to double down on being cartoonishly evil and try to do whatever it takes to cling to power.

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          There’s also the possibility that Vance invokes the 25th two years and one month into Trump’s term. He gets to be either the guy that saved America or the guy who made the tough choice for the good of the nation. Then he’s POTUS for nearly two years and can still be elected to two terms. If this is his plan, he’ll start sounding half-way reasonable in six months.

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        Without a change in congress I have no idea what he could possibly do to get republicans to do something. It’s literally a cult. He could come to their houses and rape their kids and they’d be out there the next day explaining how this is good for America, actually.

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            Not sure I agree with this. With the right people in there they could do something. Not that I think this is likely.

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              435 voting members of the House. You could get 200 new people and still won’t have enough.

              100 senators. Most of the country is sparsely populated. 52% of the population has 20% of the votes in the Senate. That’s unfixable.

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        He will never be 25th-ed, he made Dan sure to only pick those with his cock firmly down their throat at all times

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        That will never happen and short of people showing up with pitchforks and torches or guns and bombs. This will continue. Republicans will continue to whinge and wince publicly. While squealing orgasmicly inward at everything he steals and everyone he hurts.

        The only possibility would be for every Republican in this coming midterm to lose their elections. And even that wouldn’t guarantee it. Democratic leadership will have to grow a spine as well.

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        I like to fantasize that all of a sudden, sense will prevail and Trump will immediately be arrested and be very confused

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        That’s around 150 million idiots, that want a warmongering criminal pedophile to run the country. Insane.

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        Not really a defense for those 40% but many of them don’t know what is going on. There are strong efforts to keep them distracted, lied to and stupid.

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      Even if Trump is removed from power this problem isn’t going to go away. To start solving the problem permenently we need to get rid of capitalism. Fascism is capitalism in crisis and if capitalism is maintained fascism is inevitable.

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    Doing Putin’s bidding.

    By even attempting or formulating an attack on Greenland he places the rest of NATO against the US. If he can separate the two, then NATO no longer exists.

    This is trump being a Putin toady.

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      And if NATO does nothing it might as well not exist anymore.

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    health care and rent skyrockets, ICE destroying our neighborhoods. But i guess taking Greenland or abducting Venezuela pres is more important. “What the actual fuck”, i’ve been saying this literally every single day since his 2nd presidency. Every day is like another god damn South Park episode.

    also friendly reminder we are still early into January 2026

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    The rest of NATO need to put troops in Greenland, today, with clear orders to fire on any invading force, even if its the US.

    If there’s one clear and obvious pattern with Trump’s use of military power, it’s that he likes quick, easy, low cost military operations. One day of airstrikes, one special forces raid, declare victory, go home. Either he or the people around him understand that America has no stomach for a war right now. The American right have been beating the anti-war drums hard for the last decade. But surgical military operations win public because they’re already over before anyone can react. Look, see, no Iraq style quagmire. Trump gets it done, no problems. Not like those other idiots.

    All of which adds up to the conclusion that Trump will not want to spark a war with the entirety of NATO. But he’s extremely confident that if he steals Greenland fast enough, NATO won’t want a war to take it back.

    This is why the defence of Greenland has to be pre-emptive. A clear commitment to a fight, before the US can put boots on the ground. Do that, and Trump will back down. The right wing politics of today are not the right wing politics of 2001. He doesn’t want a war, he wants an easy victory. We cannot offer him one.

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      The rest of NATO need to put troops in Greenland, today, with clear orders to fire on any invading force, even if its the US.

      IMO NATO’s focus should be on reinforcing the Canadian border with the US and make Americans realize that Trump is brining war to their doorstep if moving on Greenland. Mark Carney should be the American sounding face of the reasonable free world, pleading to the US to not let it happen. Hopefully a critical mass of Americans would side against the war and stop it before it happens.

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        As a Canadian, obviously I would take an help offered, but I do strongly believe that Greenland is where we need to draw the line in the sand. Again, I don’t think Trump has the stomach for an actual war. I think he knows how much that would sink his popularity with the people who most strongly support him. A war with Canada would be an especially difficult sell.

        I’m not remotely dismissing the possibility that it could happen. Trust me, my wife is in the CAF, she’d be on the front fucking line if it did. There’s shit I know that I can’t even fucking talk about when it comes to those kinds of conversations. But I think the key here is that he’s really looking for quick easy wins. That’s Trump’s whole mentality. It’s all about what you can steal before anyone notices you got away with it. He’s a conman and a thief by nature. Greenland is where NATO can show Trump the will to stand up to him, and deny him the easy, cheap wins that he wants. It won’t end the threat, but at this point I’m really not sure if anything NATO does can end the threat of the US without a world war. I think the only thing, realistically, that can be done is to buy time for the people in America to get their fucking shit together and end this nightmare.

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        Americans can’t stop themselves from telling other countries what to even when they want other countries to solve their problems for them.

        The US will be stopped but it’s gone beyond Trump. It won’t be anything flashy to entertain Americans that enjoy watching people die on their screens. It’ll be a slow decline and collapse of the USA. American culture has become so toxic to the world that the USA needs to be permanently dismantled. It will take decades, but it needs to be done.

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      January 2025 was the best -most recent- option.
      Last week was next.
      Yesterday was next.
      Today is next.

      If tRUMP isn’t a russian stooge then that obese orange paedo is doing its best to look like it.