Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Beijing cannot accept any country acting as the “world’s judge” after the United States captured Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro.
The world’s second-largest economy has provided Venezuela with an economic lifeline since the U.S. and its allies ramped up sanctions in 2017, purchasing roughly $1.6 billion worth of goods in 2024, the most recent full-year data available.
Almost half of China’s purchases were crude oil, customs data shows, while its state-owned oil giants had invested around $4.6 billion in Venezuela by 2018, according to data from the American Enterprise Institute think tank, which tracks Chinese overseas corporate investment.
And this differs from China with Taiwan in… Hi e exactly? Beyond the point that China hasn’t attacked Taiwan YET, there isn’t that much difference.
The US ad China are both always behaving like a bag of dicks and both should fuck right off
Yet this is exactly the kind of action they fully supproted when Russia attempted the exactly same thing in 2022. And then several times since. Plus a few other atrocities.
Since Taiwan is “already part” of China, that would just be internal affairs too.
It also cannot accept others acting as judges when it finally invades Taiwan.
MAGAs keep saying that this isn’t about the oil because the oils fields are inoperative, and it will be at least a decade, and billions of dollars before they are getting any oil out of the ground.
Meanwhile, we’ve been hijacking giants tankers full of oil, and China, and other countries, have been buying billions of dollars worth every year.
It seems like there is plenty of oil coming out of Venezuela, and always has been. This is all about oil, and that’s all there is to it. They can deny it, but they are proven virtuoso liars, and we don’t have to believe them.
Aren’t they only saying that so they can annex Taiwan without interference?
so what if they do at this point? who’s to say they are the bad guys if they do it?
Taiwan is America’s property in the same way that Venezuela is America’s property and Greenland is America’s property and Nigeria is America’s property and everything is America’s property.
Can’t be better said.
Imagine if China claimed Hawaii or Key West, and vowed to attack with everything they had if we took back our own land?
Awarding a distant relative of Hawaii’s last king the Star of Lenin while declaring ownership over all the pineapples on the island chain.
Unless it’s China whose the judge, of course. They seem to find no issue judging the Uygurs as needing to die and Taiwan as their property, or the the South China Sea as their waters, or all the fish in the world as theirs to make extinct.
They seem to find no issue judging the Uygurs as needing to die
Are they killing Uyghurs by the millions or teaching them Mandarin?
So much of the hysteria around China seems to stem from domestic campaigns of infrastructure development. The Three Gourges Dam, the rapid expansion of urban infrastructure, development of schools and hospitals in the historically rural corners of the country, expansion of universities, trade with East Africa, the BRI - all described as brutal forms of colonial oppression by a savage and sadistic Far-Left Totalitarian Communist government.
Nobody described Bolsonaro’s Brazil in these terms, as his administration clear cut the Amazon and rapidly displaced tens of thousands of migrants. Nobody described The Phillipines or Indonesia this way, even as Red Tagging was used as an excuse for vigilante executions and toxic dumping sent cancer rates stratospheric. Hell, its hard enough to get Israel described in these terms in any major western publication of record, and they’re outright shooting children in the head before labeling them “Hamas Terrorists”.
Why are liberals so eager to re-characterize literacy programs as a form of holocaust? Why do they seem so gleeful at the prospect of a China-Taiwan hot war? Why do we have a President threatening to invade Venezuela, Nigeria, and Greenland all at once, while his biggest “critics” complain that he’s not bellicose enough?
Fucking wild times.
or supporting Russia judging Ukraine, also totally ok.
different from other imperialists nations, how?
This also gives justification to North Korea. They’ve been arguing for ages that they should be allowed nuclear weapons because otherwise the US would come in and force a regime change, and now Trumpsky has just handed them the evidence.
All that NK artillery was the real deterrent. Before NK developed Nukes, after the cold war the US could have relatively easily crushed them except for the incredible amount of collateral damage they could have done to SK. However, in the post Ukraine/Trump presidency age, securing a stock of nukes or joining a defense coalition that includes at least one member with nukes seems like the wise decision. Heart breaking really.
The US could also have easily crushed the Vietnamese./s
Well… yeah, we could have.
If war was literally as simple as “kill the other person and damn the consequences” the US could have casually wiped out the viet cong at pretty much any point during the war. The political consequences for doing so were the limiting factor - an extreme example, but we could have just nuked north vietnam to glass and been done with it (and obviously that wasn’t a realistic option (despite the number of times some psycho general or the other tried to advocate for it)).
If war was literally as simple as “kill the other person and damn the consequences” the US could have casually wiped out the viet cong at pretty much any point during the war.
They tried that towards the end, sending B-52s to carpet bomb Hanoi. Dozens of planes were shot down, hundreds survived, thousands of civilians were killed. If the US continued, they would have managed to kill hundreds of thousands of civilians, but eventually they’d run out of planes before the Vietnamese ran out of people or willingness to defend themselves.
You all act like we didnt already have dozens of nukes at that ppint and couldnt straight up glass the entire country. It wasnt capability that stopped the US is was political willpower or lack there of.
They escalated, yes - absolutely not denying that. But the point was that they didn’t just nuke the city. Winning was important, but there was a point that the consequences of winning were deemed to outweigh the victory itself.
“we coulda won but we just didn’t feel like it.”
Not a very convincing argument.
That’s an oversimplification to the point that it really doesn’t represent my argument at all, though. But to treat with what you said, I’m not sure how
The US didn’t “feel” like winning the war was so important it justified nuking north vietnam
is a bad representation of the situation? The US didn’t drop sarin on the ho chi minh trail, nor did they nuke Hanoi, mobilize full wartime production, draft the “desirables” etc. Politics are a massive part of any war. “An army marches on it’s stomach” isn’t simply a literal adage about the importance of supplies.
The key difference, for those unfamiliar with Asia or history, is that South Korea is a cohesive modern nation with a competent military and a strong sense of national identity that feel genuine friendship with the US (for now at least). All things that weren’t true about South Vietnam.
South Korea was essentially invented by the US in 1947, it took trillions in investment, and decades of propaganda+imprisoning/killing everyone left of Sygmon Rhee to create the nation of South Korea…
I think you’re giving the US way too much credit here. They helped south korea establish itself with a massive investment, but they didn’t “invent” the country, and its pretty insulting to south koreans that you’re so willing to take away their agency in the matter.
There literally was no South Korea, just Korea before the US drew a line on a map.
if i remember correctly, the north koreans also had a role to play in drawing that map, seeing as how the north korean army was pushed all the way north to china’s border.
They’re not wrong but also the last thing those assholes want is anyone judging their shitty behavior. Ulterior Motives and all.
because you dont want attention when you eventually want to take over taiwan
For anyone that thinks otherwise I guarantee this opens the door for China to begin their assault on Taiwan.
I’m not so sure it does. China is openly arguing against Trumps logic here, and the US just did demonstrate their military is still highly effective. The US seventh fleet hasn’t moved away from Taiwan, and Trump is clearly signalling he intends to keep China down.
I’d argue Xi is not happy Trump decided to actually do something like this, because it increased the risk of his plans with Taiwan as well now that the US is openly hostile and MAGA cheers it on.
China needed him to keep up the whole peace pretense and for MAGA to stay on board with that. Now that that’s gone, Trump has cleared the way for more military intervention.
From China’s perspective (and in theory, Taiwan’s perspective), invading Taiwan isn’t the same, because they both officially recognize One China, they just disagree about who’s in charge.
It would more akin to USA invading Puerto Rico, if the governor of PR asserted that they were in fact the proper leaders of the USA.
and the US just did demonstrate their military is still highly effective
hmmmm sucker punching Venezuela here is not the flex you seem to think it is
the USA loves to bat weaker military powers around but they have been shown to be crushed by peasants in the long run…
In a matter of hours the US kidnapped the president of Venezuela, from his house on an army base, taking zero casualties. I don’t think there’s many militaries around that can beat that. It’s not the same as capturing Putin or Xi, sure, but it’s no trifle either.
you’ve never been to Venezuela, have you?
How many other heads of state do you remember being kidnapped from their palace, like from anywhere?
Of course Venezuela is no China or Russia and doesn’t compare to the US military, but they did have fairly modern Russian-made AA installations, all of which were successfully disabled or destroyed. And again: zero casualties.
You expect the operation would be successful, sure. But not as perfectly executed as it was.
How many other heads of state do you remember being kidnapped from their palace, like from anywhere?
how many have been tried?
MAGA is actually currently having a bit of a crisis of confidence. One of the promises Trump made was to stop the empire building and international interference. Now he’s going around causing an international incident every 45 minutes.
He has gone from saying that it was a single strike, to threatening more strikes against Venezuela, to threatening yet other countries in the last 24 hours.
In the USA, this is known as the “old switcheroo”.
Our politicians are infamous for doing the exact opposite of their platform.
For example, Reagan ran on sealing the borders and isolationism, only to declare amnesty for border hoppers and revel in international intervention.
Biden ran on increasing the minimum wage and other working class American concerns. Did he do this? No.
Our major parties aren’t actually concerned with their platforms, that’s performative.
The thing about bootlickers is that they love licking boot. As long as we’re winning and not losing, they’ll obediently fall in line. If things turn to shit, like it did in Iraq & Afghanistan, they’ll pretend they were always against it.
Maga gets hard from a show of strength, regardless of what form that takes. Even if it means cannibalising some of their own.
A random Xitter account crying foul isn’t a sign of widespread crisis of confidence. Only 6% of Republicans don’t approve of the Maduro kidnapping. His approval rating went up a bit since the kidnapping (38% -> 42%).
His base, by and large, support the warmongering.
cult members gotta cult
China claims Taiwan is theirs. Invading their own country to free it doesn’t really need any extra motive (even if there is) like what Trump needed, and is not playing world police.
100% agree, also China’s outrage is in name only. They provided 1.6 Billion in relief in the form of buying oil lol.
this is how things work, and some people seem incapable of understanding that.
You exercise a given power, and it gives others justification to use power in the same way. Laws be damned, the motivation is there.
And now I’m agreeing with China.
Thanks, Trump.
China is an authoritarian dictatorship that tramples human rights and treats its citizens like resources and speed-bumps and treats “free speech” as the joke it actually is.
All that said, they are pulling ahead on the world stage by miles. We don’t see it in the US because again… freedom of speech isn’t real, media is filtered, but if you travel you see whole other angles on the entire planet and just how much we don’t get shown.
For example, you rarely see news about it, but China has launched 3 space stations in the time it took us to make just the documentaries about the ISS and how huuuuge of an accomplishment it was for the world. They are going to be launching probes and setting up smart, realistic goals for exploring the solar system. That’s just not the kind high-tech, ambitious, modern project that we associate with our stereotypical imagery of China that we get fed here, but if you actually walk around in any of their new cities you will feel a distinct, sinking sensation that we’ve already lost.
China is an authoritarian dictatorship that tramples human rights and treats its citizens like resources and speed-bumps and treats “free speech” as the joke it actually is.
if you switched “China” to “The USA” in this sentence, I would have to find details to see if the scale is different but both do exactly the same
Yep. There is no government that actually serves the people, governments serve self-preservation and they tend to do heinous shit to succeed at that. We are not an evolved species but really only because we lack the will to be better broadly.
As individuals we each have vast capacity for learning, caring and understanding the world around us. As a generalized population we are a liquid that flows to the lowest point and erodes everything it touches.
I agree… but my point here is that it does not matter it was China who said “x”, in this instance “x” is right and people are dismissing it because “cHiNA” but the reality is that every country, powerful enough, acts pretty much the same so I am attempting to split the source from the message
Americans still associate China with shit quality merchandise while glossing over that that merchandise is made shit quality because American Importers selected that level of quality and completely ignoring that they make I Phones and other High quality tech.
This is absolutely right and a good point that I think a lot of people really don’t get. China isn’t filled with the cheap shit we get from China, they have a thriving middle-class, they have luxury goods the likes of which westerners haven’t dreamed of. They have quality standards for goods and services probably higher than most places.
It’s just that since we get their cheap dollar-store merch and we read stories about traditional Chinese medicine, we get the picture here that they’re still largely a backwards, “3rd-world” nation of rice farmers and peasants. It would be like judging the entire US on a sampling of people from the mountains of Appalachia.
Related, but I also find it hilarious when people reference China as “communist” in any capacity.
Three what now? Do you mean three modules for one station? Or three consecutive stations, one testing technology for the next? E.g. a short time station, e.g. a crew vehicle? I am only aware of one station, Tiangong. Do I have to do another web search? :(
The current monster they have completed in 2022, Tiangong, was the third in a series of stations, the previous Tiangong-1 and Tiangong-2 stations were mostly meant to test technique and technology but were remarkable achievements in their own right. They currently have the largest and most active space program in the world. I didn’t even touch on their lunar program, their heavy satellite capability and their list of recent and upcoming solar-system probes.
- I don’t think monster is an appropriate word for a space station.
- so yeah, Tiangong-1 & -2 were single vehicle modules for technology evaluation. Similar to Skylab in concept (single launch, test docking technologies & crewed missions)
- as impressive as the Chinese space program is, the ISS is substantially bigger. Sadly, the world has not gotten their shit together in time for a follow-up station, and Gateway is pretty much dead-at-conception.
Oh the ISS is definitely bigger than anything ever sent to space, as I would expect from an international project that was built by a coalition of countries in better days, but it doesn’t really compare to China’s long-term goals and plans that have been on schedule. China is absolutely dominating space right now and will be into the future unless the US just suddenly gets it shit together and elects people who care about science and exploration, and even then it will take many years or decades now to undo the damage that trumpism has done to the US’s global leadership in space science.
The ISS is going to be deorbited in 2031, and I am not expecting a bigger, newer project to replace it. At this point I am not expecting to have access to health care broadly in 2031 in the US.
No argument there. China definitely has the better and more advanced space program. The ISS might get extended again if it doesn’t break and once people realize there is nothing comparable ready by 2030/31, but yes, eventually, there will be no international nor western space station in orbit for the foreseeable future.
There’s just the one.
It can only house three people.
Yeah, that is what I thought. Still, I was impressed when they launched it as announced.
He may have meant one space station and some extra moon missions or something? They have been popping off a fair bit.
Honestly, I don’t care what country dominates and wins the space race, i will just be impressed that we don’t kill each other trying.
I would prefer for it to be an international cooperation - but we’re just fucking this up big time :/
I feel like that astronaut ‘always-has-been’ meme would drop pretty hard right now
Is bombing other countries, killing civilians and installing puppet leaders not a violation of human rights?
Alright. The US acted like crap. Therefore nobody is allowed to criticise China.
Because of the US, we are not allowed to speak about the Uyghur KZs in China.
Because of the US, we are not allowed to criticise China for unlawfully occupying Tibet.
Because of the US, we are not allowed to criticise China for not respecting Taiwans sovereignty.
Do you understand how hollow you sound?
Two things can be true at once
Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones at others.
Kay, I’m not chinese or american, so, both the us and china do horrendous things. It’s not a shittiness competition
As an American I can say that the US and China are both bad…
It’s like saying a slap on the wrist vs shooting someone with a gun are equally bad.
I think you’re missing a lot of US History in your knowledge base. The US have committed atrocities for centuries. Are you forgetting the genocide of native americans? Slavery? All the meddling in Latin America and southeast Asia? This is just some of the bigger examples.
False equivalency and a fascist talking point
No, and no.
No that’s just freedom, freedoming places that needed to be freedomed. Oohrah.
So what if they do a little authoritarianism? They are attempting to make goddamn fusions reactors, for fucks sake
It’s important to point out balancing factors when discussing the accomplishments of any entity or state.
China is doing amazing things and will likely dominate the coming century, but that doesn’t mean we should look at them like heroes or champions, and we need to hold our leaders accountable for wrongs.
It’s possible they will get better as they take on more of a global role in the absence of the US hegemony that will likely start to crumble over the next several decades. I hope they give their people more rights and become leaders of world stability, but part of why they’re escaping the destabilizing forces that are crushing democratic countries is precisely because they have such an oppressive stranglehold on their own culture. It’s a complex situation.
whoosh
All this time you’ve been agreeing with a terrorist organisation, you just didn’t know it.
What do you think of China‘s Invasion of Korea and Vietnam around the same time?
Invasion of Korea lmao. The north had democratic elections, the south had a sham election that resulted in an administration which put people who’d colluded with the japanese back into power, and the US was literally murdering anyone left of Syngman Rhee as a prelude to taking the rest of the peninsula.
Whatever you think about Korea now, China was absolutely fighting for the liberation of its people.
The sino-vietnamese war was 25 years later, and a much more legitimate criticism of China’s foreign policy.
How about Kuwait?
I assume you mean when Saddam, with the US’s weapons and blessing, invaded Kuwait, then was shocked the US betrayed their old friend?
If so, I have absolutely no idea how its relevant to China.
Worse, a “world judge” that doesn’t accept the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court.
“We make the rules, but rules don’t apply to us.”
That sounds an awful lot like Wilhoit’s law, which I find myself referring to quite often lately.
Wilhoit’s law:
Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
edit: So the US is the rich conservative of the world stage. Super. I love seeing the news every day and wondering if any more of these maga morons are going to finally have their “are we the baddies?” moment. /s
Even going so far as planning in details how to invade the International Criminal Court, if it ever dared to prosecute one of their soldiers for, say, murdering children in the streets.
It would appear that the US got tired of all the jokes comparing them to the movie Idiocracy, so they decided to make themselves into Team America: World Police instead.
All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.
:(
Found the Cylon.
No toasters in these parts, my fellow biological human.
I mean…that’s why that movie was made to begin with…
Trey Parker and Matt Stone should make the movie free for the week in honor of Team America World Police being back in action.
Swap police with gangsters and i agree.
We agree, so let’s discuss the Chinese police stations in countries that are clearly not China.
Let’s discuss the American military bases in countries that are clearly not America.
At least the host country agreed to those
There’s real things to criticize, why pick something stupid?
Hard power is often leveraged by state actors to coerce agreement / consent. It doesn’t necessarily invalidate consent but it certainly obscures it.
After WW2 Japan and Germany, for example, were not in a position to say no to US bases. I wouldn’t consider that legitimate consent.
Yeah… Maybe ask the good folks of Okinawa whether they have ever agreed to American military bases.
You can’t tolerate the intolerant, Japan lost WWII and had to be demilitarized. It’s one thing to advocate for Remilitarize Japan, it’s another thing entirely to ask their proxy military to leave them defenceless.
Agreement under duress isn’t really agreement
Ahahah. The host country agreed to those. That’s priceless…
Sweet summer child
same way I agree to give up my wallet when getting mugged?
And china are right in this case. They’re just also assholes
Marjorie Taylor Green posted about how invading Venezuela is a terrible idea.
I hate it when I agree with Marjorie Taylor Green.
It’s as good to agree as it is to disagree. It’s not good to disagree for the sake of it, so you’re doing good 😊
that’s perfect. chef’s kiss.
China is hypocritical as FUCK
They take Tibet, they take Hong Kong despite practically the entire island coming out to say no thanks, they threaten Taiwan every second day, and the only reason they haven’t taken Taiwan is because they wouldn’t have been able to hold it against the west
Now they see how weak Europe is and the nutter in command of the US, and their plans have accelerated, this is simply an opportunity to further push propaganda on something they were always going to do
On top of that I actually wouldn’t mind if we had a judge that aligns closer to American/Western values
China is literally right next to the totalitarian dystopian hellscape that is North Korea
Executions for watching south korean tv, 3 generations of jail as punishment for committing crimes
i would have no problems if even china which is not great even by itself could bring some sense to north korea
They’re also trying to erase the Cantonese Language from existence… 🫤
Yes, they are hypocritical but they are also right - a unilateral invasion like that is baaad:
.Edit: image is directed at China, not ikt.
Sorry but kpop simps deserve it
the only reason they haven’t taken Taiwan is because they wouldn’t have been able to hold it against the west
Eeeeh I’m not so sure about that anymore.
I suspect losing trading partners is the biggest deterrent. As soon as controlling the supply of Taiwanese microchips becomes more financially viable than making billions of tons of cheap goods every year, China will take Taiwan. And the US naval fleet will either be cruise missiled to the bottom of the ocean or we’ll just quietly walk back our threats to defend it.
Yikes chill a little… You actually believe that nonsense about North Korea?
The nonsense about the dictatorship in North Korea?
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You know we’re talking about China right?
I have the right to expand about the topic of hypocrisy. What is the problem with calling out a genocide supporter hypocrite?
??? who are you?
Common mrdown L. Learn how to spell, buddy.
Ok language police. All i said is right . That guy is a big hypocrite and a genovide supporter. What’s your problem with what I said?
Even if so (I don’t know this user or their beliefs), what does that have to do with the current discussion? All I can see is you going full aggro against them completely unprompted. You addressed nothing about what they said, just immediately leaped to insults and accusations. The fact you didn’t bother checking your spelling just makes you look like you saw this user and just went off on them without a second thought out of anger. This is something I have seen you do time and time again.
Did you reply to the wrong comment?
I think they’re wrong. Their statement is basically that international law is meaningless and that they’re free to wage war without consequences.
This was probably their endgame from the beginning, since they promoted and helped reelect Donald Trump. If it came out that Trump, Maduro, Putin, and Xi Jinping all conspired to make these events happen, I would not at all be surprised.
You’re getting downvotes but it might be because some people are surprised that Xi Jingping would support Trump but I’ve gathered some evidence it might be true.
For starters we look at TikTok. Regarding TikTok this article is the most damning: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/how-tiktok-courted-conservatives-before-trumps-win (archive/non-paywall: https://archive.is/TUjo9)
The top leaders pushed through content moderation changes that made TikTok more accepting of some conservative views on the fairness of elections or transgender rights, including by updating policies on banned content or enforcing them differently.
I hate the way they worded that. What they really mean is allowing the big lie (false claims the 2020 election was rigged) and transphobia.
See: https://www.theverge.com/politics/656717/trump-tiktok-ban-maga-influencers (archive link: https://archive.is/DMOLf)
MAGA influencers also view TikTok as a relatively reliable platform to publish pro-Trump content without fear that their accounts will get demonetized, restricted, or worse, deactivated.
Also see: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maga-republicans-defend-tiktok-conservative-platform-fate-hangs-balance-supreme-court (archive link: https://archive.is/RGBC8)
“Trump won the election because he listened to first-time voters like myself and joined TikTok to get his message to us directly,” RNC Youth Advisory Council Chair Brilyn Hollyhand told Fox News Digital of the impending ban.
President Donald Trump “pleaded” with China’s Xi Jinping during a 2019 summit to help his reelection prospects, according to a scathing new book by former Trump adviser John Bolton that accuses the president of being driven by political calculations when making national security decisions.
Then we cannot forget about all the Chinese bots who post online. “China is pushing divisive political messages online using fake U.S. voters” https://www.npr.org/2024/09/03/nx-s1-5096151/china-tiktok-x-fake-voters-influence-campaign Says it very clearly. They used the same strategy Russia did.
China shares an interest with Russia in weakening the US and Europe.
Also, TikTok voluntarily went offline right before the ban’s due date, but then went right back online thanking Donald Trump 14 hours later without Trump having to do anything. I’ve also seen how they treat Donald Trump on the other psyops like Hexbear, he was the favored candidate by far for Tankies.
I think I know what you’re talking about! The people who pretend to be “far-left”, socialist or communist but for some bizarre reason they keep supporting Russia.
I had an experience with one of those people recently. I asked one of those people point blank do you support Trump and they completely dogged the question. Clicking on profiles of these types of people I notice they also never denounce Trump or Republicans or do so very rarely.
I actually deeply regretfully used to be somewhat of a Trump supporter so now I’m very sensitive to people who may be secretly Trump supporters or those who have similar characteristics. Those “tankie” type people really peg my MAGA-meter. It’s almost like when someone has an abusive ex they tend to notice certain things more afterwards (I wish I could word this sentence better but hopefully people can understand).
Ultimately what makes tankies and MAGA similar even if they are not secretly supporting Trump or a bot is belief persistence when there is contrary and reputable evidence and belief in conspiracy theories. Part of what helped me escape MAGA is media literacy and realizing that if someone presents reputable information that contradicts what I believe, I should change my beliefs not plug my ears and regurgitate conspiracy theories based on some random comment like a screenshot of a screenshot of a 4chan post or just saying nonsense like “I don’t trust the MSM”.
putin was quite happy to declare this multipolar law-free world. I hope he at least enjoys it, because I won’t.
Well, international law is meaningless. As trump has just shown us.
Iraq was long before tramp
At least with Iraq the US pretended to be following international norms. The presented lies to the UN to justify their actions, they gathered allies into a “coalition.”
I can’t believe how you make their point better for them.
It was always a farce.
Fuck the US.
And Putin with Ukraine. And Xi with Hong Kong.
Were you expecting the consequences to be instantaneous? Like, what, simultaneous nuclear strikes in retalliation?
Even if proceedings started immediately there wouldn’t be changes to trade for weeks at a minimum and no sentencing for months or even years, but honestly proceedings aren’t likely to start until the individuals responsible lose political power.
Sanctions against US like the ones against Russia.
And China. Yes.
In spite of many of its economic and military misadventures, China hasn’t invaded anyone as of yet.
That distinction is still important or else v shud sanction every country.
China is occupying Tibet and Hong Kong and claiming it owns Taiwan as well. It also frequently sends warships through seas owned by the Philippines where it has been illegally fishing and destroying Philippines fishing vessels. A couple of weeks ago Chinese authorities refused an Indian passport because they claimed that part of India belonged to China.
Also, China waged war on it’s own people in Tienanmen Square.
well not invaded anyone of recent. the last official one would be the short one in vietnam after vietnam ended the Khmer Rouge. this of course was nearly half a century ago though, so a lot of poeple online wouldn’t recall it because it wouldn’t be part of their generation.
China is already sanctionned. There is no sanctions on the United Snakes
Welcome to the discussion. Glad you’re all caught up. Be sure to check for updates after more than 2 days have passed, likely 2 to 3 weeks.
If it came out that Trump, Maduro, Putin, and Xi Jinping all conspired
I think it’s more likely that Trump asked what he could get away with regarding seizing a bunch of money from another country, and Venezuela was a low-risk, high-reward.
Why? Maduro is such small beans compared to them? It’s low hanging fruit.
The point is, as China is illustrating, that if every world power does what they want then international laws don’t apply to any of them, as a way to justify their current occupations and use of force as well as future invasions.
They’re saying “the world won’t protect you, ao why protect the world?”
Not as much as America tho.
People often forget all the countries America has bombed and destabilized in the past.
