Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Beijing cannot accept any country acting as the “world’s judge” after the United States captured Venezuela’s President Nicolas Maduro.
The world’s second-largest economy has provided Venezuela with an economic lifeline since the U.S. and its allies ramped up sanctions in 2017, purchasing roughly $1.6 billion worth of goods in 2024, the most recent full-year data available.
Almost half of China’s purchases were crude oil, customs data shows, while its state-owned oil giants had invested around $4.6 billion in Venezuela by 2018, according to data from the American Enterprise Institute think tank, which tracks Chinese overseas corporate investment.
I think they’re wrong. Their statement is basically that international law is meaningless and that they’re free to wage war without consequences.
This was probably their endgame from the beginning, since they promoted and helped reelect Donald Trump. If it came out that Trump, Maduro, Putin, and Xi Jinping all conspired to make these events happen, I would not at all be surprised.
You’re getting downvotes but it might be because some people are surprised that Xi Jingping would support Trump but I’ve gathered some evidence it might be true.
For starters we look at TikTok. Regarding TikTok this article is the most damning: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/how-tiktok-courted-conservatives-before-trumps-win (archive/non-paywall: https://archive.is/TUjo9)
I hate the way they worded that. What they really mean is allowing the big lie (false claims the 2020 election was rigged) and transphobia.
See: https://www.theverge.com/politics/656717/trump-tiktok-ban-maga-influencers (archive link: https://archive.is/DMOLf)
Also see: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/maga-republicans-defend-tiktok-conservative-platform-fate-hangs-balance-supreme-court (archive link: https://archive.is/RGBC8)
Also see: https://apnews.com/article/ap-top-news-courts-john-bolton-politics-donald-trump-8a7ff9c4e60678aafcd7f430e49196ea
Then we cannot forget about all the Chinese bots who post online. “China is pushing divisive political messages online using fake U.S. voters” https://www.npr.org/2024/09/03/nx-s1-5096151/china-tiktok-x-fake-voters-influence-campaign Says it very clearly. They used the same strategy Russia did.
Also, TikTok voluntarily went offline right before the ban’s due date, but then went right back online thanking Donald Trump 14 hours later without Trump having to do anything. I’ve also seen how they treat Donald Trump on the other psyops like Hexbear, he was the favored candidate by far for Tankies.
I think I know what you’re talking about! The people who pretend to be “far-left”, socialist or communist but for some bizarre reason they keep supporting Russia.
I had an experience with one of those people recently. I asked one of those people point blank do you support Trump and they completely dogged the question. Clicking on profiles of these types of people I notice they also never denounce Trump or Republicans or do so very rarely.
I actually deeply regretfully used to be somewhat of a Trump supporter so now I’m very sensitive to people who may be secretly Trump supporters or those who have similar characteristics. Those “tankie” type people really peg my MAGA-meter. It’s almost like when someone has an abusive ex they tend to notice certain things more afterwards (I wish I could word this sentence better but hopefully people can understand).
Ultimately what makes tankies and MAGA similar even if they are not secretly supporting Trump or a bot is belief persistence when there is contrary and reputable evidence and belief in conspiracy theories. Part of what helped me escape MAGA is media literacy and realizing that if someone presents reputable information that contradicts what I believe, I should change my beliefs not plug my ears and regurgitate conspiracy theories based on some random comment like a screenshot of a screenshot of a 4chan post or just saying nonsense like “I don’t trust the MSM”.
China shares an interest with Russia in weakening the US and Europe.
putin was quite happy to declare this multipolar law-free world. I hope he at least enjoys it, because I won’t.
Well, international law is meaningless. As trump has just shown us.
Iraq was long before tramp
At least with Iraq the US pretended to be following international norms. The presented lies to the UN to justify their actions, they gathered allies into a “coalition.”
I can’t believe how you make their point better for them.
It was always a farce.
Fuck the US.
And Putin with Ukraine. And Xi with Hong Kong.
Were you expecting the consequences to be instantaneous? Like, what, simultaneous nuclear strikes in retalliation?
Even if proceedings started immediately there wouldn’t be changes to trade for weeks at a minimum and no sentencing for months or even years, but honestly proceedings aren’t likely to start until the individuals responsible lose political power.
Sanctions against US like the ones against Russia.
And China. Yes.
In spite of many of its economic and military misadventures, China hasn’t invaded anyone as of yet.
That distinction is still important or else v shud sanction every country.
China is occupying Tibet and Hong Kong and claiming it owns Taiwan as well. It also frequently sends warships through seas owned by the Philippines where it has been illegally fishing and destroying Philippines fishing vessels. A couple of weeks ago Chinese authorities refused an Indian passport because they claimed that part of India belonged to China.
Also, China waged war on it’s own people in Tienanmen Square.
Hong Kong was returned to china by the UK as agreed when it was leased. None (few?) of the people living there at the time of handowver were alive when the agreement was made but they were living in Hong Kong on borrowed tine regardless, legally speaking. It’s a very different situation to an illegal invasion.
China not getting Hong Kong back as a territory would have been more damaging to international law and order and international treaties and agreements. International treaties and agreements are supposed to outlive those who agreed them. It’s between nations, not people.
Yeah, much as I dislike how it turned out and how China has been ignoring what post-unification rules there were on Hong Kong, the return itself was above board. Had I been living in Hong Kong in the years leading up I’d have taken the opportunity to get out if at all possible.
According to the BBC:
What actually happened is the Chinese Government immediately went in with their military, restructured the legislative body, and cracked down hard on any dissent.
well not invaded anyone of recent. the last official one would be the short one in vietnam after vietnam ended the Khmer Rouge. this of course was nearly half a century ago though, so a lot of poeple online wouldn’t recall it because it wouldn’t be part of their generation.
China is already sanctionned. There is no sanctions on the United Snakes
Welcome to the discussion. Glad you’re all caught up. Be sure to check for updates after more than 2 days have passed, likely 2 to 3 weeks.
I think it’s more likely that Trump asked what he could get away with regarding seizing a bunch of money from another country, and Venezuela was a low-risk, high-reward.
Why? Maduro is such small beans compared to them? It’s low hanging fruit.
The point is, as China is illustrating, that if every world power does what they want then international laws don’t apply to any of them, as a way to justify their current occupations and use of force as well as future invasions.
They’re saying “the world won’t protect you, ao why protect the world?”