Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don’t approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, “It means death.”

“There’s nothing about death,” Trump said. “Theirs is death because they’re going to lose Medicaid, they’re going to lose Social Security, they’re going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you’re not going to have any kind of medical insurance.”

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    Anyone else remembers the Cheeto proclaiming that in just two weeks he’d have a healthcare bill that would be better than Medicare?

    Pepperidge farm remembers

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    The only reason Trump cares about the shutdown is because his people are telling him he will be blamed the worse it gets.

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    Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years… shit better be there for me when its my turn.

    Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.

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    To be clear, the day SS is gone is the day I’m willing to pick up a gun and get this party started.

    And I know I’m not alone.

    This society doesn’t need to continue functioning the day SS stops functioning. So the treasonous Republican party can go ahead and do that and find out what happens next.

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      The sad thing is, most of us (Americans on Lemmy/Piefed) are probably not going to see why we need social security.

      It’s basically a government ran pension plan if you can’t work. Most of us can work and are. So we don’t see why we invented it during the great depression to aid in a social safety net when shit goes south.

      And Trump is most likely going to continue plummeting shit into an economy as bad as the Great Depression. Some already had the question of “Do I eat today or do I save up to pay for rent this month?” And Trump isn’t the person to solve it, only make it worse.

      Most of us probably don’t claim the funds from it, and go “Oh this is just for the elderly, not for me. I’m 20 to 30 something and able bodied, this is for when I’m 60 something and walking with a cane.”

      When Trump guts it and if we have any resemblance of the federal government when we need Social Security, this will probably have lasting effects when we need to claim our benefits.

      And the even sadder part, all of his voting base will just nod along. “The gubberment took money from muh paycheck, says so here in muh paystub, fucking woke commie Democrats. Da woke took muh $100 a month, I had to spend that on Trump hats!”

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    This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek. They’re happy to state what each side is saying about the situation, and they fail to do even the most basic research to fact check any of the statements.

    The article cites Republicans as saying that Democrats “want to provide free health care to illegal aliens”. The heavy implication is that without the budget Reps are trying to push, we will be paying for that or that Dems wouldn’t approve a budget that didn’t - which is just patently untrue.

    Ignoring that hospitals will, of course, provide emergency care to anyone (not for free, mind), and focusing on the idea of major U.S. benefits programs providing help to undocumented immigrants… they just don’t. They go to Americans and qualifying resident non-citizens, i.e. green-card holders, etc. who have been here 5+ years (Medicare) or have paid enough into the relevant taxes (Social Security). Medicaid is similar.

    This is stuff I was previously familiar with and was able to verify in minutes using basic internet resources.

    Republicans say or imply benefit money will go to undocumented immigrants unless this budget is passed, which is patently untrue and easy to check on. That Newsweek gives Republicans voice throughout the article to their claims, some false and some unfounded, but only gives one Democrat a quote - one that focuses on the shutdown itself more than the funding/benefit claims - is bullshit.

    I’m not saying it’s wrong Newsweek didn’t give equal “time” to each side. I’m saying it’s wrong they spend so much of the article quoting misinformation from Republicans without any clear fact-checking.

    There’s a quote, one with various forms and attributions, that posits to journalists:

    If one person claims it’s raining and another says the sun is shining, the media’s job isn’t to quote both—it’s to look out the window and report the truth.

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      This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek

      It ALWAYS is, my man, it always is…

      (I recommend to substitute “Newsweek” with “Main Stream Media”, for best results ! )

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      Our media is bought and paid for by wealthy interests who want all this.

      It’s actually ironic that MAGA were right that a lot of mainstream media couldn’t be trusted… Just for the wrong fucking reasons and instead of being skeptical and thoughtful they just started listening to random asshats on the internet.

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    It’s not to bring down the deficit, it’s to bring down his own taxes.

    He wants a redistribution of labor income straight to his pocket.

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      I honestly don’t think he had much to pay tax on until his second presidency. He is probably making more in bribes from this tax policy than he is saving in taxes.

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          I think that has less to do with the amount of taxes (he basically openly admitted to avoiding taxes in 2016) and more to do with the simple fact that your average everyday real estate accountant could probably compare his tax filings with other submissions he has had to make over the years and find clear evidence of fraud and crimes committed.

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    Good! Without Social Security or Medicare we can afford TWO Golden Ballrooms!

    -Republicans LITERALLY on Social Security and MEDICARE!

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      While I like your joke, I think the reality is worse. Ballroom supposedly not funded by taxpayers but instead being build by “donations.”

      Just imagine what’s been promised…

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    The the only way the threat could be more existential is if he created literal death squads and started launching missiles around the world at random.

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    No he won’t. EVERY Republican knows that if they end Social Security, every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.

    Following WWII, Dems controlled Congress for years, because Americans didn’t trust SS in the hands of Republicans. Eventually, even Republicans had to admit that it was untouchable.

    He won’t dare touch SS, or it will be the end of the Republican Party.

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      I don’t think Republicans are able to process any conherant thought since 2016. If they suddenly don’t have their Social Security payments, Trump will point at someone else and they’ll just drool and nod along with what their cult leader said.

      Plus how many rural dipshits were hurt by Trump in his first term and went for him again? How many are hurt by his even more expensive erosion of things and still think “This will be worth it, I just know the libs are more hurt by this.”

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      There have been so many things in the last some years that should have been the end of the Republican party…

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      Nah, they’ll blame it on democrats and 30% will believe it. Which is also apparently the number you need to win a presidential election these days.

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      Nine months ago, I’d have said the same thing about Medicare, but here we are today with a trillion dollars in Medicare cuts coming, on top of the trillion in Medicaid. And MAGA seems super happy about it.

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      “every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.”

      Your optimism is blinding. The Dems will control Congress for 2 years, maybe 4. 6 at the absolute maximum. Your average Republican can watch their loved ones die because of Republican policies and blame Democrats 2 years later.

      Also democrats won’t do anything to make structural change in the economy or wealth of the country, so even if given the reins of power, they will only succeed at not actively making life worse.

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      That is if they allow elections.

      Secure the military to stop coups. declare martial law hold mock elections

      There are working playbooks for this all over the world.

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      Cuz doubting he’d do something idiotic that he first says he won’t do, then jokes about, then says he might do and eventually says he will do, has been working out great for you guys so far…

      Maggots will believe whatever excuse he says after taking away all of their benefits.

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        I can already hear my mom, who’s on SSDI, blindly parroting “well maybe it’s a good thing they’re getting rid of it.”

        But we don’t speak anymore since she said the same about abortion, and she knows damn well queer rights are up next, and I’m queer.

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        Oh man, any time I’m tempted to read some post on nextdoor because it might be nearby enough to care about, I mindlessly start checking comments. Within seconds, it is apparent that my only options are to close it immediately or to set myself up to despair over the state of society.

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      I’d like you to be right, but things have changed a lot since WW2.

      For example, we have embraced the fascism that we previously fought.

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        And one of the things that has changed is that every working American of every political affiliation counts on their Social Security for their retirement. For many, it’s the only consistent savings they did for retirement. Take that away, and you will literally threaten their existence.

        Millions of pissed off old people, with nothing to lose, many with military experience, is not a good enemy to create.

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          Yeah but you’re assuming that those old people will blame the correct people rather than continue to swallow the propaganda and blame literally anyone else

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            It’s going to be really hard for Trump to abolish SS, and try to blame the Dems, who don’t control shit. Sure, there are the MAGA Super-Morons, but most people are going to see very clearly, especially when Dems are screaming that if they get voted in, they’ll restore SS.

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    No problem. Just as soon as you pay me back those taxes I’ve been paying my entire working life. If you don’t, things become difficult. And by “things” heh heh let’s just say… your ability to breathe on your own.