Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don’t approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, “It means death.”

“There’s nothing about death,” Trump said. “Theirs is death because they’re going to lose Medicaid, they’re going to lose Social Security, they’re going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you’re not going to have any kind of medical insurance.”

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    Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years… shit better be there for me when its my turn.

    Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.

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    To be clear, the day SS is gone is the day I’m willing to pick up a gun and get this party started.

    And I know I’m not alone.

    This society doesn’t need to continue functioning the day SS stops functioning. So the treasonous Republican party can go ahead and do that and find out what happens next.

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    This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek. They’re happy to state what each side is saying about the situation, and they fail to do even the most basic research to fact check any of the statements.

    The article cites Republicans as saying that Democrats “want to provide free health care to illegal aliens”. The heavy implication is that without the budget Reps are trying to push, we will be paying for that or that Dems wouldn’t approve a budget that didn’t - which is just patently untrue.

    Ignoring that hospitals will, of course, provide emergency care to anyone (not for free, mind), and focusing on the idea of major U.S. benefits programs providing help to undocumented immigrants… they just don’t. They go to Americans and qualifying resident non-citizens, i.e. green-card holders, etc. who have been here 5+ years (Medicare) or have paid enough into the relevant taxes (Social Security). Medicaid is similar.

    This is stuff I was previously familiar with and was able to verify in minutes using basic internet resources.

    Republicans say or imply benefit money will go to undocumented immigrants unless this budget is passed, which is patently untrue and easy to check on. That Newsweek gives Republicans voice throughout the article to their claims, some false and some unfounded, but only gives one Democrat a quote - one that focuses on the shutdown itself more than the funding/benefit claims - is bullshit.

    I’m not saying it’s wrong Newsweek didn’t give equal “time” to each side. I’m saying it’s wrong they spend so much of the article quoting misinformation from Republicans without any clear fact-checking.

    There’s a quote, one with various forms and attributions, that posits to journalists:

    If one person claims it’s raining and another says the sun is shining, the media’s job isn’t to quote both—it’s to look out the window and report the truth.

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      This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek

      It ALWAYS is, my man, it always is…

      (I recommend to substitute “Newsweek” with “Main Stream Media”, for best results ! )

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      Our media is bought and paid for by wealthy interests who want all this.

      It’s actually ironic that MAGA were right that a lot of mainstream media couldn’t be trusted… Just for the wrong fucking reasons and instead of being skeptical and thoughtful they just started listening to random asshats on the internet.

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    It’s not to bring down the deficit, it’s to bring down his own taxes.

    He wants a redistribution of labor income straight to his pocket.

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      I honestly don’t think he had much to pay tax on until his second presidency. He is probably making more in bribes from this tax policy than he is saving in taxes.

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          I think that has less to do with the amount of taxes (he basically openly admitted to avoiding taxes in 2016) and more to do with the simple fact that your average everyday real estate accountant could probably compare his tax filings with other submissions he has had to make over the years and find clear evidence of fraud and crimes committed.

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    The the only way the threat could be more existential is if he created literal death squads and started launching missiles around the world at random.

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    Good! Without Social Security or Medicare we can afford TWO Golden Ballrooms!

    -Republicans LITERALLY on Social Security and MEDICARE!

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      While I like your joke, I think the reality is worse. Ballroom supposedly not funded by taxpayers but instead being build by “donations.”

      Just imagine what’s been promised…

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    No he won’t. EVERY Republican knows that if they end Social Security, every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.

    Following WWII, Dems controlled Congress for years, because Americans didn’t trust SS in the hands of Republicans. Eventually, even Republicans had to admit that it was untouchable.

    He won’t dare touch SS, or it will be the end of the Republican Party.

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      Nah, they’ll blame it on democrats and 30% will believe it. Which is also apparently the number you need to win a presidential election these days.

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      There have been so many things in the last some years that should have been the end of the Republican party…

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      Nine months ago, I’d have said the same thing about Medicare, but here we are today with a trillion dollars in Medicare cuts coming, on top of the trillion in Medicaid. And MAGA seems super happy about it.

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      “every one of them will lose their next primary, and Dems will control Congress for decades.”

      Your optimism is blinding. The Dems will control Congress for 2 years, maybe 4. 6 at the absolute maximum. Your average Republican can watch their loved ones die because of Republican policies and blame Democrats 2 years later.

      Also democrats won’t do anything to make structural change in the economy or wealth of the country, so even if given the reins of power, they will only succeed at not actively making life worse.

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      That is if they allow elections.

      Secure the military to stop coups. declare martial law hold mock elections

      There are working playbooks for this all over the world.

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      Cuz doubting he’d do something idiotic that he first says he won’t do, then jokes about, then says he might do and eventually says he will do, has been working out great for you guys so far…

      Maggots will believe whatever excuse he says after taking away all of their benefits.

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        I can already hear my mom, who’s on SSDI, blindly parroting “well maybe it’s a good thing they’re getting rid of it.”

        But we don’t speak anymore since she said the same about abortion, and she knows damn well queer rights are up next, and I’m queer.

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        Oh man, any time I’m tempted to read some post on nextdoor because it might be nearby enough to care about, I mindlessly start checking comments. Within seconds, it is apparent that my only options are to close it immediately or to set myself up to despair over the state of society.

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      I’d like you to be right, but things have changed a lot since WW2.

      For example, we have embraced the fascism that we previously fought.

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        And one of the things that has changed is that every working American of every political affiliation counts on their Social Security for their retirement. For many, it’s the only consistent savings they did for retirement. Take that away, and you will literally threaten their existence.

        Millions of pissed off old people, with nothing to lose, many with military experience, is not a good enemy to create.

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          Yeah but you’re assuming that those old people will blame the correct people rather than continue to swallow the propaganda and blame literally anyone else

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            It’s going to be really hard for Trump to abolish SS, and try to blame the Dems, who don’t control shit. Sure, there are the MAGA Super-Morons, but most people are going to see very clearly, especially when Dems are screaming that if they get voted in, they’ll restore SS.

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    No problem. Just as soon as you pay me back those taxes I’ve been paying my entire working life. If you don’t, things become difficult. And by “things” heh heh let’s just say… your ability to breathe on your own.

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    MAGA has been told, and believe, that the Ds are responsible for the shut-down. Telling them that the Rs control both the House and the Senate receives blank stares, or goes right past them. If we lose SS and Medicaid, they’ll still support the Rs.

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        A supporter of the poor and sick, an ancient middle east faith healer grifter and magician, and a real supply side thirst trap

        Jesus on the cross but he's ripped with goofy muscles and broke the t part of the cross, completely missing the point of the myths about him but who reads books these days I mean right

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          Wow the subtext to this image is actually terrifying.

          Jesus didn’t die for our sins, he rescued himself from consequences. He uncancelled himself

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      Same message Democrats communicated when people demanded a viable non-genocidal candidate who doesn’t thank Dick Chaney for his “service”, surrender or is your fault.

      The illusion that Democrats are fighting on your behalf is just that. Two sides of one fascist coin, only one side is rustier.

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        I don’t disagree that Democrats are problematic and have much to improve. But that “both sides” is some tart kool-aid to drink, to think that things would be the same or even worse had Trump lost. I’d like less rust, please. Also, that definition of fascist is a very broad and loose one if Harris falls into it. Must be the one that Trump used, where it’s combined with “communist”, “socialist”, and other words he has no understanding of.

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            No dude, I’m just not a fucking moron.

            I’ve got no interest in relitigating the election, I’m well aware of what she said regarding Israel.

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    Just so we all see how this works, right? The Republicans point a gun to the head of everything normal decent people care about and hold the entire nation hostage.

    Meanwhile, the vainglorious pedo-in-chief is building a golden ballroom and talking about building a stupid arch. All because he wants to leave a permanent skidmark associated with him not only on the way our country operates, but on its physical structures.