I think I’d have better luck winning the Powerball than what he wants Democrats to be.

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    Ooh, he’d better watch out or he’ll be on the receiving end of a luke-warm letter of dissatisfaction from Chuck Schumer.

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      The only thing Schumer is good for these days is holding down an armchair in a retirement home. That old bastard needs to be primaried

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    The Dems are playing a completely different game than the fascists and therefore will never make any ground. You wanna win, get in the mud and play their game

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        Pritzker literally IS them too like holy shit the fact the only person in the entire democratic party actually speaking to power is a billionaire? That can’t be an accident. He’s the designated stone thrower or whatever pointless, useless designation Schumer gave him.

        As long as he keeps the extent of his activism to speech* they couldn’t be happier to see him pay lip service to the issues the congressional dems won’t touch. Keep us happy and make sure that nobody expects Cory booker to do anything because we can trust JB is going to take care of it. Dems are fighters, you see?

        *So long as he doesn’t talk about demanding more from congress, taking action, or removing those who are capitulating to fascists

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      🤦🏼

      So close. The Dems are playing the same game, the game is winning fascism. The Dems just have an extra challenge, they have to pay this game without breaking character that they really really oppose winning the game.

      They score very high points, they have illegal drone strikes, children in cages at the border, a full blown genocide, you name it! But they have to be extra offended when Republicans take over and take what the Dems did to the next level.

      When the Dems drone strike civilians or give Israel total impunity and bombs to attach every single hospital, clinic, and bakery in the largest open air prison, it’s totally fine. They just have to say they are working tirelessly on a ceasefire, and they are the good guys.

      When Trump posts a video of what the Dems actually are allowing, the Dems (party and cult members) get offended and become vocal.

      Wake up! The Dems are not incompetent, they are not your friend.

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    Spiraling in every direction but the correct one, I see. We’re all mad, but I feel like what we want most of all is for things to make fucking sense, and to have a government that serves our interests instead of corporate. They’re still focused on the culture war instead of the class. If we win the class war the culture war will evaporate.

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      To be fair JB has been fantastic for the state of IL, and the people that there regardless, and often, in spite of wealth/social status.

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        Yeah I’m just not seeing this end in any good way for common people. Theres not enough resistance, maybe there can’t be, to this daily tsunami of absurdity and cruelty.

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          The common people - specifically Democratic voters - need to wake up to the fact that the Democratic establishment is also our enemy. All the energy resisting Trump is outside the Democratic establishment. They stand far more in opposition to progressives than to Trump. They are with the oligarchs, and they have proven multiple times that they prefer a Trump presidency to a Bernie presidency.

          We won’t beat the fascists until we beat the neoliberals. With their neoliberal protectors gone, the fascists will collapse.

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            We need to follow David’s advice about primary-ing corporate Democrat incumbents that won’t do anything except fight progressives and their candidates. Notice how that proposal got the Democrats to perk up and denounce that idea immediately? They literally prove, everyday, why they are unfit to represent anyone but themselves and their monied masters.

            Chuck giving up leverage and other Democrats voting for tRump cabinet picks are all reps that need to go. Resign or we will make you resign! That’s if we have free and hair elections again.

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      what I see so far is a lot of signalling - and thats important for base support. the talk gets refined for palatability to a wider audience as time passes.

      if he stakes out fIrmly articulated progressive positions then I might get slightly interested. until then, he’s just another billionaire that should not exist, rhetoric be damned. gonna take a whole lot to shake the triangulating politico smell.

      we dont need a hero. we need a movement directing a leader.

      edit: anyone able to give some constituancy specific info?

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          thanks for the trench report - super grateful for it. will look at him a little more seriously because actual empathy that straddles class is a good start. if he can articulate that the class struggle is real, the average american has effectively lost and that he has concrete plans in concert with others to fix it… thats the first hole punch in a ticket to ride.

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            I’m also one of his constituents and originally had the same grumbles about the $v$ election. I know someone who worked with him in his old life as a nepobaby at the family company, however, so I asked them about him.

            They said that he recognized his lack of real experience and perspective and made up for it by surrounding himself with a diverse group of people. He would invite those insights, absorb them, and give ample credit to those around him.

            Watching him as governor, he appears to still do the same thing. He is passionate about things as if he had lived experience because he surrounds himself with those that do, amplifying their fight with his unfairly-acquired power.

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          Thanks for this. I’m a few thousand miles from Illinois, so my Pritzker awareness isn’t robust, but with what you’ve written and quoted here, I’m moving him to my list of good guy Democratic politicians.

          There are 9, now including Pritzker.

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          Bo one becomes a billion naire without standing on the misery of others. He can fuck himself to until I see him standing in the streets with us not a podium with a microphone.

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      Why not? Somebody else has to, or else we end up with Gavin Newsom…

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        Oh God, please not Newsom! The only thing that two-faced, opportunistic, spineless shit heel deserves is to be tarred and feathered!

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      It takes scarce vision to see that we are now striding through the pages of history, a time when nary a kind word will be written of those who said “not me”, or “business as usual”. In the quieter years of our twilight, children will hear of the troubles we faced and plaintively ask “why didn’t anyone do anything?” And the only ones among that crowd of elders who can stand tall will be the few, indeed, who had gumption.

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      That’s why they won’t win. Until they’re willing to use “balls” instead of “gumption”, until they’re willing to lose the pearl-clutching hypocrites who use the n-word in private, until they’re willing to call the motherfuckers out in the moment by the rightful insult, they won’t win.

      Cause that’s what normal people do. They cuss, they swear. They don’t use obtuse references or reverse psychology to lay high-brow insults that sound like inside jokes. They lay it out so everybody knows you’re a fuck.

      Even Mark Twain was considered profane by some but they gave their attention.

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    “I hear the puppet on the right is doing nazi shit, well i hear the puppet on the left is gonna give them a very harsh scolding”

    “Hey there is one man holding both puppets.”

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    Yeah, good talk. But does anyone seriously think a billionaire has the best interests of the working populace at heart?

    I’m pissed that the front runners I’m mostly hearing about are kamala, gavin, and this fat billionaire fucker. If this is all we got to work with Vance 2028 is looking shockingly realistic.

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      I would look into his history as governor before completely discarding this one. He shouldn’t exist, but he’s used his influence to do a lot of good in Illinois. If we have to play the Citizens United game, this guy isn’t a terrible ally for now.