I think I’d have better luck winning the Powerball than what he wants Democrats to be.

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    Spiraling in every direction but the correct one, I see. We’re all mad, but I feel like what we want most of all is for things to make fucking sense, and to have a government that serves our interests instead of corporate. They’re still focused on the culture war instead of the class. If we win the class war the culture war will evaporate.

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      To be fair JB has been fantastic for the state of IL, and the people that there regardless, and often, in spite of wealth/social status.

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        Yeah I’m just not seeing this end in any good way for common people. Theres not enough resistance, maybe there can’t be, to this daily tsunami of absurdity and cruelty.

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          The common people - specifically Democratic voters - need to wake up to the fact that the Democratic establishment is also our enemy. All the energy resisting Trump is outside the Democratic establishment. They stand far more in opposition to progressives than to Trump. They are with the oligarchs, and they have proven multiple times that they prefer a Trump presidency to a Bernie presidency.

          We won’t beat the fascists until we beat the neoliberals. With their neoliberal protectors gone, the fascists will collapse.

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            We need to follow David’s advice about primary-ing corporate Democrat incumbents that won’t do anything except fight progressives and their candidates. Notice how that proposal got the Democrats to perk up and denounce that idea immediately? They literally prove, everyday, why they are unfit to represent anyone but themselves and their monied masters.

            Chuck giving up leverage and other Democrats voting for tRump cabinet picks are all reps that need to go. Resign or we will make you resign! That’s if we have free and hair elections again.

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      what I see so far is a lot of signalling - and thats important for base support. the talk gets refined for palatability to a wider audience as time passes.

      if he stakes out fIrmly articulated progressive positions then I might get slightly interested. until then, he’s just another billionaire that should not exist, rhetoric be damned. gonna take a whole lot to shake the triangulating politico smell.

      we dont need a hero. we need a movement directing a leader.

      edit: anyone able to give some constituancy specific info?

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          thanks for the trench report - super grateful for it. will look at him a little more seriously because actual empathy that straddles class is a good start. if he can articulate that the class struggle is real, the average american has effectively lost and that he has concrete plans in concert with others to fix it… thats the first hole punch in a ticket to ride.

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            I’m also one of his constituents and originally had the same grumbles about the $v$ election. I know someone who worked with him in his old life as a nepobaby at the family company, however, so I asked them about him.

            They said that he recognized his lack of real experience and perspective and made up for it by surrounding himself with a diverse group of people. He would invite those insights, absorb them, and give ample credit to those around him.

            Watching him as governor, he appears to still do the same thing. He is passionate about things as if he had lived experience because he surrounds himself with those that do, amplifying their fight with his unfairly-acquired power.

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          Thanks for this. I’m a few thousand miles from Illinois, so my Pritzker awareness isn’t robust, but with what you’ve written and quoted here, I’m moving him to my list of good guy Democratic politicians.

          There are 9, now including Pritzker.

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          Bo one becomes a billion naire without standing on the misery of others. He can fuck himself to until I see him standing in the streets with us not a podium with a microphone.