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    Why are there so many people itching to hurt others? Let’s take our hands and resist, people. I am not even American but I am scared for you all, and for me as well. We’re seeing that taking down Democracy was easier than we expected.

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        I mean… kinda? Its no excuse, but Trump, Musk and the lot of them seem to all have deep insecurities rooted in childhood trauma. A toxic culture that encourages abusive behavior and discourages self-reflection and accountability certainly doesn’t help.

        The memes about it how these men would rather destroy America then see a therapist are pretty real.

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          I once made a video called “make Trump do LSD” and I’m genuinely convinced that a strong dose of shrooms or LSD with proper therapy would actually help sort out people like that.

          Honestly, essentially this no matter how ridiculous it seems

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    They’re right, no one is safe. We’ve already seen the creep: first it was violent illegal immigrants, then it was any illegal immigrants, then it was immigrants waiting for due process on their case, then it was green card holders - not necessarily a lot of them, but enough to establish precedents and see how far they can get.

    Now they’re saying “violent US citizen-criminals” - but they run the state that determines whether you’re a criminal and how violent your crimes was. Remember all those videos of non-resisting people being screened at by the cops "Stop resisting!; remember bills in Florida and other states to label trans people sex offenders - that’s what we’re up against. Any resistance or non-conformity can and likely will be punished.

    "First they came for … "

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    Well. Might as well say it now: if they’re going to take you down, take as many with you as you can.

    Because if you end up in a foreign prison, you probably aren’t coming back.

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      How much do you think we could crowdfund to buy out some foreign prisons and turn them into revolving doors that the US government pays to take prisoners, and then just lets them go. Unfortunately, I’m sure I’m not the first person with this idea, except the others with the idea are human traffickers who want slave labor.

      Alternatively, we steal Elon’s dumb tunnel digger, and go put a basement door in some foreign prisons now.

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    Why foreign?

    Can’t even Make American Gulags Appear let alone a manufacturing infrastructure for you sexist, racist, anti-science, anti-health, selfish, fascist, no-exaggeration dumbest people on earth considering how you chose this.

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      Foreign gulags give the shitheads plausible deniability when it comes to situations like the mistaken deportation of a legal resident. So, they can rendition you to El Salvadore, and there’s jack and shit you can do about it.

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        Yeah. I’m waiting to see how they explain that they can’t bring people back on court orders because they’re dead. Except of course the Supreme Court stepped in.

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          Oh no, they’ve already said that he’s effectively in foreign custody and any transfers would have to go through diplomatic channels IIRC.

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      Because in the US you have some recourse to the courts. In a foreign one, the current Supreme Court seems to think you don’t.

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        That was the entire point of Guantanamo, to keep people outside the legal system.

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          Who would have thought that building secret concentration camps around the globe would come back to haunt the good ol’ USA? Home of freedom and democracy!!! \s jfc

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        In a foreign one, the current Supreme Court seems to think you don’t.

        This precedent isn’t current. It goes back to Gitmo and likely a bit before that. We just had twenty-five years of liberals kinda shrugging and insisting these kinds of horrifying totalitarian impulses are reserved for brown people and particularly poor whites, not anyone who matters.

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      Dude… This rabid anti American shit is getting old.

      You’re on a social platform with like-minded people who are all potential targets for this administration’s horse shit. Few, if -any- of -us- voted for this. We are Americans, but we are also, very likely, -your- allies.

      If you just want to be mad and demonstrate how in-control of your emotions you are, go on. But what’s happening has global ramifications. Maybe don’t dunk on those who are fighting it from the inside.

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        Until you actually start cleaning house, you are not our allies. Comments like yours, and other empty expressions of support, are as meaningful as “thoughts and prayers.”

        Get your shit in order rather than whining about how unpopular your country is.

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          Until we start? We have. It’s not something that happens overnight. You’re saying you’re not my ally until I’m winning, and that’s not the high ground you think it is.

          And as far as whining… Look at my post history before you call me a whiner. I have little to no disillusions about my country.

          This edgelord internet routine plays right into the authoritarian’s hands. Build bridges, not walls.

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    I bet Corecivic and Geo group aren’t happy they aren’t getting 100% of that sweet sweet government money.

    Although knowing this fucked up world they more than likely own the prisons elsewhere too…

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      I think they’re starting with foreign prisons until the process becomes more normalized. Right now it would be too risky, the victims would have too many pesky rights. Need lawyers and journalist afraid of being sent to the El Salvador Death Camps before we can open the American ones.

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    …this Nation’s system of laws is designed to prevent, not enable, their rise.

    I’m going to go ahead and say this is now a categorically false statement.

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        It is my belief that laws are not designed to prevent anything. It is merely a legal recourse for when people inevitably do something you don’t want them to do.

        For example, my wonderfully progressive (/s) state of North Carolina has laws forbidding using your vehicle’s horn for anything other than a “reasonable warning” to pedestrians and other drivers. It is also illegal to sing out of tune.