what a bunch of disgusting human beings. I think for them being a democrat or republican doesn’t really matter. Like parasites they will just latch on to whatever opportunity is available and pretend like they are a part of the system.
Really glad all our votes make a difference, we have great representation, these people really share the voice of the American people. /s
US politicians only believe in the justice system when it suits them. Lobbing 155 mm artillery shells at civilians, packed into the Gaza Ghetto, is a war crime.
You see that every single GOP votes with isreal 100% of the time, tho, so vote dem if theres no viable 3rd party in your district.
These are paid offices, right? Run as an anti-Israel independent, maybe it’ll be the start of something big.
Unless your platform is anti-abortion, anti-tax, pro-jesus then that would just split the vote between you and the DNC candidate, ensuring the GOP wins and doing more harm than good.
Run on that platform and then immediately change to the Dems. As gop candidates have done in the past.
You cannot win office with that approach outside of maybe a handful of districts
Here’s an idea. We all just stop. And loudly let them know they fucked up. Because rewarding them for this behavior is just going to get more of it.
This is why Trump got reelected.
Partially, yes. Clearly these representatives didn’t get the message. So the lesson must be applied again in their districts.
I’m in your camp, but I am also very cynical. I think your reasoning assumes they care if you do/don’t vote. They know that they have an army of rubes (both Republicans and Democrats) who will “vote blue no matter who” or whatever the conservative equivalent is. In the last 8 years I have seen many very intelligent people compromise on their supposed values because to do otherwise would be an existential crisis. I don’t know how you break through that.
House races can be surprisingly close. Either in the primary or the general depending on if it’s a “safe” seat or not. The one thing they really care about is being re-elected. They will notice, even if they win a tough primary for a safe district they’re not going to forget it. And if you manage to unseat enough of them then the message is even louder to the rest.
This is the way the game was meant to be played. Just apathetically voting for what’s in front of you was something the parties invented to make it seem like there’s no way to make change.
partially, yes
No entirely.
When Trump won PA he won. The one state where we know people stayed home because of Gaza was Michigan and it would have caused a win for Trump if they had gotten to that point. But Michigan effectively didn’t even get a chance to count because Pennsylvania’s electoral votes put Trump over the line on their own.
There are many ways she could have won with modest gains in other states.
Realistically they had to defend PA. Georgia and North Carolina were always a long shot and the only way the Democrats could survive losing Pennsylvania. PA landed Trump his 270th EC vote.
Only 30% of eligible voters vote. If even fewer vote it’s even easier for elections to be manipulated
This isn’t an abandonment of voting. You just don’t vote for those guys. They have elections every 2 years.
Here’s the list of voters that you can narrow down. It’s appalling. AIPAC, the pro-
isrealGenocide lobby, has been pushing this, in order to shield their terrorist leader netenyahoo from punishment. The bill would not just sanction the International Criminal Court, but it’s members. They are actively trying to punish individuals across the globe, for condemning isreals genocide, using the American peoples congress as their cudgel.Meanwhile isreal has blocked or impeded every single humanitarian aid shipment to Gaza since October.
Well atleast my representative was a no vote, wish more would be done but atelast my representative isn’t following along with this.
This is what Democrats call bipartisanship.
the most furious debate of all time will be whether the United States is owned by the AIPAC, or the Russian Mafia.
if they aren’t in one pocket, its the other
AIPAC has every politician kissing the ring at their conference. It is not even a contest.
If Russia had the same level of influence as Israel, America would be invading Ukraine with Putin.
“Republicans want to sanction the ICC simply because they don’t want the rules to apply to everyone,” said Rep. Jim McGovern (D-Massachusetts) on the House floor on Thursday.
McGovern highlighted that Republicans are moving to erode human rights while ignoring urgent issues within the U.S.
“We have a natural disaster unfolding in California right this second…. We have a gun violence epidemic, as we see massacres in our schools nearly every single day. And families are unable to make ends meet because they’re being ripped off by billionaire corporations,” said McGovern. “All those challenges, and this is what the out of touch elitist billionaire Republican party wants to waste time on. Sanctioning the ICC.”
I liked Jim McGovern already, but I like him more, now.
Sounds reasonable, but the name? It’s like they’re not even trying to hide the fact we’re in a simulation any more.
Yeah, he fucking nailed it.
McNailed it
Also wonder if the fact that he’s, uh, governing (?) is some nomnative determinism
When will US truly have a centre left party atleast?
Considering we have a far right and a controlled opposition party, never.
Probably after we switch from a First-past-the-post voting system to something more representative.
Then people could vote outside the two party system without a spoiler effect.
We can make these changes at the state level. Alaska recently voted to keep using Ranked Choice voting. Conservatives were mad because Ranked Choice voting allowed alaskans to choose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin and pushed to have a referendum to go back to FPTP voting.
So why do Blue states use FPTP voting when it’s clear republicans prefer it?
I dont think FPTP is a problem, my country also have FPTP but we have diverse range of parties having significant influence. Electoral college is the real issue
Dems prefer it for the exact same reasons. It makes things so much easier for them.
Or centre right, Biden was the closest they’ve been to centre right so they replaced him with a candidate further right
(Yes you can point out random other centre right members but they haven’t had power in the party)
When people on the left stop just circle-jerking on the Internet and actually get involved in their state and local Democratic parties, vote in the primaries and run for office.
volunteers to run for office
gets told by Dems that they’re not rich enough
We’ve got 4 years (assuming something doesn’t happen) to create a resistance party and get a candidate with enough charisma and followers to win an election.
You too huh?
Removed by mod
45 democrats need to get fucking primaried.
AIPAC is ready to fund them
Honestly, campaign on that.
“My opponent supports genocide. They’ve received xxx,xxx dollars from AIPAC. They’re being funded by foreign interests because they put those interests before you.”
And to any dem politicians out there thinking about it- AIPAC and Netanyahu fucked Biden. They are not your ally. They are not your friend.
Tried that. Just say that eggs will be cheaper, doesn’t matter if it’s true.
They aren’t going to be cheaper so add that line in.
They took X amount of money from AIPAC to put foreign interests above your family affording groceries. Isn’t it time to actually focus on Americans?
Yes, but then they’ll be accused of anti-Semitism because people don’t understand the difference between Israel and Jewish people
They already are, and you are suggesting democrats become feckless cowards.
Learn to hit back. You’ll feel better.
Become?
Even more so?
There’s always room to become even more cowardly.
Oh no accusations! Republicans accuse people of all sorts of dumb shit, you really gonna fall for that old trick?
Yes… yes you will.
Then we lose while making AIPAC spend money that would otherwise have been put towards further entrenching foreign influence.
It’s government backed, you can’t outspend an industrial nation on volunteer donations across every candidate.
If their candidates are going to win either way, I would rather them have to spend money keeping them in office than use that money for genocide.
I worry that’s exactly it.
The list copied by hand from https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/2024242
Sorry for any errors
- Boyle (PA)
- Caraveo (CO)
- Cartwright (PA)
- Craig (MN)
- Cuellar (TX)
- Davis (NC)
- Frankel (FL)
- Gallego (AZ)
- Golden (ME)
- Goldman (NY)
- Gonzalez (TX)
- Gottheimer (NJ)
- Horsford (NV)
- Landsman (OH)
- Lee (NV)
- Levin (CA)
- Manning (NC)
- McBath(GA)
- Meng(NY)
- Moskowitz(FL)
- Nickel (NC)
- Norcross(NJ)
- Pallone(NJ)
- Panetta(CA)
- Pappas (NH)
- Peltola(AK)
- Perez(WA)
- Peters (CA)
- Phillips (MN)
- Ryan (NY)
- Schneider (IL)
- Schrier (WA)
- Scott (GA)
- Slotkin (MI)
- Soto (FL)
- Stanton (AZ)
- Suozzi (NY)
- Thanedar (MI)
- Torres(NY)
- Vargas (CA)
- Veasey (TX)
- Wasserman Schultz (FL)
Cuellar (TX)
Votes like this are why the party worked so hard to quash the Cisneros campaign.
Fucking evil rats, all of them. Reichstag rodents.
of course that rat wasserman schultz voted for it.
People like that make me want to believe in God, just so I’m comforted by their eventual placement in hell.
Not surprised that Dean Phillips (MN) voted for this, but I am mildly surprised Angie Craig (MN) did. Her district is purple tho. Still shitty
It would be nice if this were sorted alphabetically by state, but thank you regardless!
- Peltola(AK)
- Gallego (AZ)
- Stanton (AZ)
- Levin (CA)
- Panetta(CA)
- Peters (CA)
- Vargas (CA)
- Caraveo (CO)
- Frankel (FL)
- Moskowitz(FL)
- Soto (FL)
- Wasserman Schultz (FL)
- McBath(GA)
- Scott (GA)
- Schneider (IL)
- Golden (ME)
- Slotkin (MI)
- Thanedar (MI)
- Craig (MN)
- Phillips (MN)
- Davis (NC)
- Manning (NC)
- Nickel (NC)
- Pappas (NH)
- Gottheimer (NJ)
- Norcross(NJ)
- Pallone(NJ)
- Horsford (NV)
- Lee (NV)
- Goldman (NY)
- Meng(NY)
- Ryan (NY)
- Suozzi (NY)
- Torres(NY)
- Landsman (OH)
- Boyle (PA)
- Cartwright (PA)
- Cuellar (TX)
- Gonzalez (TX)
- Veasey (TX)
- Perez(WA)
- Schrier (WA)
75% of Democrats voted against it and 100% of Republicans supported it. The problem in this country is Democrats, because a portion of them side with Republicans sometimes.
Honestly the fact that 75% of Democrats voted against it is actually kinda surprising. In the past close to 100% of both parties were knee-jerk pro-Israel votes. This means there’s actually a good chance it won’t pass the senate. If people wanna call their senator instead of complaining online, maybe it won’t. I’m in DC so I’m allowed to just complain online until you give me my two senators.
Do the 75% of the Democrats call out and throw out the 25%? Like the whole ACAB thing, how are these people allowed to represent the party?
lmao why would the “representatives” care
Because their constituents voted for them.
The DNC allowed them into the party.
No, their state Democratic party did. Because they won a primary election.
There is no requirement that the party keep you. You can keep your seat. The people gave you your seat. The party gave you it’s name and backing. The party can publicly disavow you at any time.
Democratic primaries being famously neutral and all.
If fewer Republicans voted for it, more Democrats would have.
I’d like to see a breakdown of this idea. Some people say Democrats seem to perfectly shore up votes to push through conservative shit, but the idea is the same color as “it’s them vs us.”
I can’t be an American. There’s no way my politics are this divorced from the average person and I’m still an American.
(https://act.represent.us/sign/problempoll-fba/)[The bottom 90% of income earners have a statistically zero level of influence on policy.]
It’s not you who isn’t American, it’s the current governing body.
Then why is it every time we vote I feel less American?
