This guy is totally a fake wealthy backed candidate meant to electioneer a win. An unholy blue maga combination of black ops and illiberalism. You have got to hand it to them though, so credit where credit is due. They have done a great job promoting this POS despite the fact that he is a murderous motherfucker.
99 other seats you could be worried about, 2 of which belong to each of you. Go put that energy into your own elections ya jackasses.
Sounds like a whole lot of salty crackers in this motherfucker. Y’all mad because you can’t get a pro Israel candidate out of your seat of power. Why don’t you focus on your own fucking elections and go someone decent in your district if you’re so concerned about ours
All you out of staters sound like some clown in Texas foaming at the mouth over the mayor of New York. Big clown energy. Calm down eyes on the prize focus on your own representation. This one’s mine. You can go reelect your little DNC clown so they can fund Israel and we could keep bombing brown people forever instead of getting healthcare.
Let’s go Maine. The rest of your bootlickers are just jealous. You can’t find someone to run that doesn’t have the DNC’s hand up their fucking ass.
Sounds like a ton of concern about a guy who’s promising to promote national healthcare, social safety nets, prosecuting and impeaching trump, etc. I don’t give a fuck who feels Susan Collin seat as long as they’re ready to impeach Trump as soon as they get in.
Graham Platner is a complete OP. The least genuine person in world history. His entire campaign and all his words are picked by “Fight Agency” as their personal pet project to show that they can get even mass murdering Nazis elected by American “leftists”.
Sing your song, little birdie
I don’t know which would be sadder: That you actually believe what you wrote, or that you don’t.
Just like they got that Nazi Zohran Mamdani elected?
Did Zohran go on several your voluntarily because of the “thrill” and get a totenkopf tattoo? Because if he didn’t. He isn’t a fucking nazi
You missed the point
Zohran did not go on five tours to kill brown people and get a Nazi tattoo as commemoration.
Do we have a time machine? No? Then we can’t make a better choice for primary than him anymore. That’s it.
Is he better than Susan Collins?
That’s the vote. A or B. Decide which, between those two options only you’d hate the least, and vote the vote.
Is he imperfect? Yes. But now he’s only competing against Ms Collins.
Well that’s fucking depressing
That’s fair, but we’re actively living the consequences of not voting for harm reduction when we had the chance in 2024. I’m so fucking sick of this. We can’t afford to ignore history or reality anymore.
Not as depressing as what happens if everyone who is informed enough to have meaningful opinions refuses to participate rather than make a choice.
Everything else is much more depressing.
And if turns into another Fetterman? Then what?
What if somebody slaps you with a trout? Did you consider that possibility?!
Or what if he even turns into another Susan Collins?!
This is concerning!! I’m concerned, she’s concerned, we’re all concerned here.
Fettermsn had a stroke that obviously changed his personality
No I heard he was always an asshole. But it was him or OZ and sick of the lesser evil which is bullshit. And this guy is a nazi. His bullshit he didn’t know his tattoo was what it wss goes against realty. So guess we see how he turns out. I hope for the best but not holding out he will make any difference.
So what your saying is the DNC is controlled opposition and they are terrible at political strategy and legislation?
Not so sure about that, given some questionable past behavior of his. His entire time as a mayor was problematic.
The heel turn was coming, the stroke may have only made it worse.
I’m not from there so my opinion is worthless but—
I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever EVER EVER EVER EVER vote for someone with a Nazi tattoo. I don’t give a fuck if he says he’s reformed. The fact he that was a choice they made literally proves they are not fit for office. Yall get what you deserve with these fucking people.
My best of best friend got sucked into 4chan for a minute when they were a very young adult. Realized the error of their ways, and changed. Is now my best friend. Is now a compassionate loving and kind human, to all.
Sometimes, seeing something for what it is first hand, can fuel the fire for true change.
With your logic, I should not be friends with this person because over a decade ago they were sucked into a horrible line of thinking. I should just write them off and shame them. Id rather recognize that they saw how the propaganda machine was working on them, how they were able to overcome it and work on themselves, and now hold a voice on how others can do the same to prevent it further growing.
Thats all I can think about when yall say this shit. If I apply this thinking to my friend, they wouldnt be my friend.
Did he also get the popular 4chan slogan “Ni**erfa**ot” tattooed on him and then keep it for two decades of his good person era? And then lie and say “I had no idea those were degrading words, by golly”?
These days I have to assume these posts are by feds or Russian plants. He was a Marine, if you’ve never spent time around them let me tell you, they promote a culture of killers and respect effective killers. SS imagery was as common as “Back to Back World War Champs” imagery.
The left needs killers.
Exactly.
You need people who aren’t perfect, but are extremely driven.
Will they make mistakes?
Yep.
… that’s how people work.
What’s pretty damn uncommon is someone who makes a big mistake, actually realizes it, admits it, and fights against it, at least partially out of a sense of avenging their own prior mistakes.
You gonna have a lot of trouble stopping a person with a well placed grudge against elements of their former self.
Yes, instead of the formerly chud-brained person who changed their mind and did the work to improve, you would rather vote for the current Nazi who is clever enough to hide their nature by not having a tattoo.
You absolute muppet.
I know this is such a wild take. “He has a Nazi tatto” so does SECDEF. The whole admin is Nazis doing nazi shit. At least this guy wants to prosecute the Nazis.
Susan Collins it is then
No, I’m pretty sure this one’s going to platinum. Everyone’s pretty much sick as Susan Collins and all she has are the hardcore MAGA. She can’t even find real people to run her campaign ads.
We keep voting for the lesser evil and then act suprised when candidates keep being evil.
Maybe if non-evil people ran in primaries, and people showed up to vote for them, we’d get to vote for something else. Have you considered running for office, or canvassing for good primary candidates?
I have but I’m a bad public speaker. I do political organizing in real life, including helping run a recurring mutual aid distribution, and that seems a more valuable use of my time than a quixotic vanity challenge.
Your mutual aid does nothing in the face of federal legislation. And the destruction of social safety that we’ve watched over the last 18 months.
The striking workers our strike kitchens feed disagree. The unhoused we give clothes to disagree. The tenant unions we support disagree.
When I want opinions on the real life organizing I do in my community, I’ll ask the other real life organizers in my community and the community I serve, not some random internet stranger.
Well if someone doesn’t, we’ll never have anything but lesser evil candidates.
Stop trying to talk sense into blue maga
He says enough good things that he’s worth throwing some weight behind. Importantly too, (and unfortunate it has to be this way) he’s a macho white veteran. He’s speaking TOO and FOR this demographic who happens to have too much weight in the US political discourse.
A lot of what he says I generally agree with, but he is, like any politician, imperfect. He’s the best we got against Susan Collins though. If his image can be the voice of reason to this demographic of desperately macho white dudes in the US, then let’s ride the wave until someone better comes along.
He’s an unapologetic war criminal who brags about his love of war crimes and got a Nazi tattoo to commemorate those crimes.
But “he says enough good things” and calls himself progressive, and that’s good enough for you?
He so unapologetic about the war he thanked Susan Collins for sending him.
Not really the sentiment. If he can steer disaffected white men away from the Republican Party, that’s a good enough start for someone. That doesn’t mean he’s perfect.
Perfection is the enemy of progress. We can’t wait for the perfect candidate. We have to use people who have enough cult of personality to ultimately get to something better.
I don’t want to see another 2024 election outcome. I did NOT want to vote for Kamala, but the unfortunate reality is that if we didn’t we’d be stuck with Trump. I get exactly why people wanted to “make her pay” but we have a rigged electoral system, you’re only making yourself pay when you do something like allow Trump to be voted in.
100% agree with you here. The key to winning is having a candidate the disaffected white men will be willing to vote for because they are the largest GOP voting block. If the Dems ran more guys like Platner then they’d win more often. That simple.
Yep. And that makes him popular with macho white guys. I love villains, I especially love villains who are on my side.
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What alternative are you proposing?
If I had a nickel for every person who could have been the bellwether of US populism I’d have… I don’t know… a bunch of nickels. I’m not holding my breath.
Genuinely hope I’m wrong about him, but it’s frustrating that Maine couldn’t find a candidate without a Nazi tattoo. Or one that doesn’t go on Nazi podcasts and call themselves long time fans. Or one that didn’t enlist in a war they thought was wrong because they wanted to kill people. Or one that didn’t merc for Blackwater.
I get that one can’t pick their family, but his blue blood parents trying to buy him a mayorship is also wild.
Sad to think that the economy has gotten so bad that his parents who both worked normal ass professional jobs are considered blue bloods now. Back in my day we called that middle class.
Interesting how many billionaires are pouring cash into spreading any and all kinds of bullshit about this guy. The more they spend the better I feel about him.
Have you considered making a donation to Susan Collins?
Don’t be MAGA-brained. Politicians with a D after their name can still be criticized.
Don’t try to reason with blue maga
Uh hold on… I was under the impression that this so-called “Blue MAGA” were against Platner? I was called “blue MAGA” for daring to question the guy with the Nazi tattoo.
Now the person criticizing the person who criticized Platner is also “blue MAGA”?
Almost as if it’s a meaningless term
Criticizing Platner is not blue maga. Blue maga is literally people saying “We have to vote Democrats to make America great again and if we don’t fall in line and eat the shit the Democrats serve us then you’re just as bad a Trump”
Eh he’s a white guy. Doesn’t matter what his past is, he gets to apologize and move on. Not like they have other examples of populist leftists in multiple other elections across the country. No, it’s this white ex-mercenary who had to remove a totenkopf tattoo.
No this guy is the face of populism…
A liberal Nazi or a conservative Nazi apologist. Gotta love our choices.
0% he changes shit, and the days will prove it. he is zionist idf palnt.
Fuck Graham Platner he literally has an IDF handler. His zionist campain team is the same one who brought you john fetterman. Platner is a proven Nazi war criminal who kept covering and deleting his war crime posts, nazi and racist posts, killing iraqis for fun, 4-times 15 yrs deployments with blackwater, his war crimes in fallujah and ramdai, his documented desire to kill people instead of going to college despite his free scholarship and rich upbinging, his IDF ties and handler and brother in law and campain contributer who participated in gaza gonicide, his 50 somethings posts about killing inferior brown people as late as 2023 ,2000-fucking-23… that’e 2 yrs ago , which his team kept on deleting as soon they dig them, his nazi tattoos which he got commemorate the massacares he participated in ramadii with blackwater when he was in his 30s after many deployments then lied in apology video that was a drunk fun tattoo
Ghraham Platner supporters are either vile and selfish liberal zionists supporters or ones who has to vote for the lesser of two evil dogshits. So say that instead: Ghraham is the lesser evil two hypocrite psycopathic murderous supremacist war criminals with blood of millions on their hand.
Nazis are the new US populism?
If he’s a Nazi, why isn’t he running as a Republican like all the others? If he’s a fellow Nazi, why are all the other Nazis so intent and focused on attacking him. Rather than amplifying him and getting him elected?
I’m not going to make the claim that plattner isn’t a meathead/jarhead that has said some pretty stupid shit over the years. Facts are facts. And none of that is disqualifying in light of his competition. A sad critique of our country’s politics in general. Plattner isn’t going to fix everything, or likely even anything. He will probably struggle to be average or even adequate. But is that he wasn’t the establishment Democrats conservative pic, or the Republicans conservative incumbent old coat hanger he’s learned his lesson Collins.
If you actually go look into the guy. You’ll find out that while he’s not ideal. He’s definitely no Nazi, and definitely not another fetterman.
Why did Kyrsten Sinema or John Fettermam run as Democrats?
Apparently we are easy marks, and getting someone in who represents the opposite party of the one they were elected as, is a massive boon for that party. It’s a +2 (-1 seat for Democrats, +1 seat for Republicans).
What do you mean why?
Because they were. They didn’t just become Democrats to run and reach the congress. They’d been for decades before.
If you expect that anyone who reaches the Congress will stay un corrupted. When Congress is designed to corrupt. Yes you’re an easy mark. The Senate was designed from the bottom up with corruption in mind. That was it’s whole purpose. The house was hobbled over a century ago to be more easily controlled by the oligarchs and the wealthy. Corruption is the natural outcome. It’s a rare person that can avoid it.
What I mean by why. Is exactly that. It wasn’t a riddle or cryptic in any way. If plattner is a nazi. Then why is the party that is the primary home for bigots and Nazis so adamantly attacking him for what they openly are. If plattner is a Nazi, then why are the worst parts of the democratic establishments attacking him. Since they commonly align themselves with the fascists and Nazis in the Republican Party? It’s not a rhetorical question, work it out.
Plattner has absolutely said stupid toxic masculinity dude bro shit throughout his life. At the same time when confronted with it he’s genuinely shown an ability to understand, listen and learn. But yes I get that a tattoo is serious shit. It’s not like people getting drunk and getting random tattoos they don’t understand the meaning of or even remember is so common it’s a trope. (It is) it’s not like there’s tens to hundreds of different websites across the internet just displaying these and making fun of them. (There are) Hell I’ve got materials with a totenkoph on it that I’ve come to regret having after the fact. I need an apparent expert opinion. Am I a Nazi in secret even to myself?
All kidding aside. If he’s so clearly a Nazi as so many people are trying to imply. Why can’t I find any evidence of it? Why hasn’t he taken for instance a single cent from AIPAC? Why is he opposing the genocide in Gaza, which far too many Democrats won’t even distance themselves from let alone call it out. Even Chuck Fucking Schumer, democrat leadership in Congress won’t condemn it. And has used his position to stop others from condemning it. Can you point out a single action he personally has taken that clearly marks him as a Nazi?
Sinema was actually in the Green party before becoming a Democrat. There was a time where her being a Leftist was believable.
Yes she worked on Ralph Nader’s campaign. But she had been in the Democratic party since 2004. The power and the influence 100% corrupted her
Do you really believe only the Republicans are Nazis? Operation Paperclip was done under Truman. The genocidal campaign against North Korea was also Truman. LBJ lead the mass murder campaign in Vietnam and Laos.
No. The fact that Platner is the darling of the Ds is shifting the Overton Window of acceptable open proximity to Nazis, not proof that Platner isn’t as horrible as his history shows him to be. The man chose to join Blackwater AFTER he saw what they were doing in theater.
If you actually dig into it, like me, he was clueless that a skull and crossbones was a Nazi symbol. It was the first thing I looked up on him, then just stared trying to sort it out because it didn’t look like any Nazi symbology I’d ever seen.
Good odds this a big money rumor to keep people like this guy off ballots.
He’s essentially working class. Liberal gun owner. Calling for retirement of the old guard. Better to look up what the man has said re Schumer and such.
I’ve said it before, but if his reddit post history is any indication, if he’s a Nazi plant he’s playing the really long game. Not that he hasn’t posted stupid shit, but the worst of it was posted long ago and it’s fair to account for personal growth.
I don’t think he is the best progressive candidate possible but he probably isn’t a Nazi. Just kind of ignorant.
My best friend was military. Raised Mormon, though he spent a decent amount of time in boys homes (very crazy mom) and went into the military as quickly as he could. Very typical meathead character, doing basic toxic male shit. He was working for the military when I met him. And I met him because he was leaving his faith when he learned about atheism. Since then, he became a pacifist (I helped him through his conscientious objector status to get out of the military), got rid of his guns, became a staunch Democrat, recognized his suppressed bisexuality, and started working on his mental health. If you put the person I first met, next to the person he is today, he’s only visually the same. Completely different person. It’s not normal to have such extreme changes. Most of us don’t have those polar changes in life. But some people do. Platner sounds a lot like my friend. He has been angry for a while but finally put on the They Live glasses and figured out who and what to be angry at. Could it all be a farce? Yeah. We could be being misled. Any politician can be someone else. Platner’s story thus far is absolutely plausible. And it’s been scrutinized heavily. He’s not a George Santos. He IS however targeted by Israel and the oligarchs. So, I’m choosing to believe his story, one that I’ve seen before, over targeted talking points that are being used in paid ads by AIPAC.
It’s not about being misled. The guy has very clearly not done the work. Sure. He looks like he’s starting to do the work, but he’s a massive fucking liability with the half apologies and the backtracking. He’s not woke yet. Yes, everyone has a right to start where there are. No, we don’t have to fucking vote them into positions of power over us.
What’s the alternative? There is only one alternative: Susan Collins. That’s the forced choice. Platner or Collins.
It will be one or the other.
Correct! It’s almost like electoralism isn’t solving any fucking problems and we should stop wasting time on this race - because every single choice is a losing choice - and instead focus our efforts on literally anything else that makes life better because giving Democrats our energy is just frog marching us towards more and more death, destruction, and devastation.
Versus, what? Enjoying the present Trump/Vought/Vance state?
TIL being white = “very clearly not done the work”…
LOL, telling on yourself on this one. The fact that he has not responded well to situation around his tattoo means he hasn’t done the work.
Not responded well? As far as I’m aware, he explained that he didn’t know what it was when he got it (which is very believable, as I didn’t know what it was until I read about him), and he had it removed. What else do you expect?
“Haven’t done the work” is such a vague term that gets overapplied to anyone you want to dismiss as backwards and ignorant, completely ignoring the work that they have done. If you can point to something ignorant someone said or did twelve years ago, then you’ll say they “haven’t done the work,” for the rest of their lives. You apparently don’t believe people can learn and grow, which is basically essentialism.
Obviously, if someone points out the work that they’ve done, you’ll just dismiss it as performative and virtue signalling and say they don’t get points just for meeting the bare minimum. So there’s no way to actually “do the work” such that you would even acknowledge it.
That’s pretty short-sighted, because if you give people no way forward then they’re going to stop trying to please you, and they may even move backwards. Which makes it all the more impressive that he is moving forward, to be honest.
he was clueless that a skull and crossbones was a Nazi symbol
You don’t need to be a historian to guess that a skull and crossbones isn’t exactly a peace symbol.
And?
Military… His unit got that tattoo. Not my thing, but, whatever. The guy is an oyster farmer now. Cusses like a sailor too.
Idc. But then I also think the liberal side of things needs to lay off the gun thing.
I’d be curious to see an old source on that tattoo.
Not knowing what it is is an obvious lie, sorry. There’s no way the white male millennial soldier that grew up with the History Channel didn’t know what it was. His friends and family have said he knew what it was. He had Reddit posts defending police getting SS bolts and discussing the thematic differences between Totenkopf and Punisher tattoos.
And, honestly, if he genuinely didn’t know what it was, that level of historical ignorance should also be disqualifying.
Then what was it? I’m no deep dive history buff on nazis but I’ve had the college level courses, in addition to the extra bits on Speer and the symbology. I did not recognize it. Link old, pre headline sources.
You’ve studied Nazism at a collegiate level but are asking for a source on what a totenkopf is…?
So if the argument is that he is, still, currently a Nazi, just running on progressive ideology to pull one over on all of us dumb rubes, why bother hiding it? Why be a cryptofascist when obvious-as-fuck fascists are running on fascist platforms and getting elected because they’re fascists? He has said literally nothing even in his online posts as a private citizen anywhere near as far-reich or as blatant as the current admin says in plain sight on Twitter.
Idk and I’m gen x,different state, but seriously did i fuckin idiots really elect another fetterman? Quit bein gullible, and curb stop a Republican
You know get fucking did, man, and they are going to witch hunt US for calling their dumb asses out.
He also didn’t know what sexting was, eh? Just said some words that his buddies thought sounded cool and next thing you know his wife is sharing them to expose what he’s actually like?
Which of his policies are Nazi policies?
He doesn’t have any policies. He’s a candidate for a low level elected office where he will be exactly 1% of the vote and he will absolutely vote to continue expanding the military and the police. He saw what happened and instead of becoming a conscientious objector he decided to voluntarily join Blackwater!
He doesn’t have any policies.
Oh I see you haven’t checked out his website. Here you go
https://www.grahamforsenate.com/platform
Take on waste and corruption at the Pentagon… Massive, massive waste in procurement. A revolving door between the Pentagon and massive “defense” contractors. Widespread consolidation, encouraged by deliberate government policy, to the point where competition has virtually disappeared in many vital areas. This is the legacy of several decades of disastrous mismanagement and profiteering at the highest level of the American military.
No more pointless wars I will never, ever vote to send Americans into a pointless war. Everything we went through in Iraq can be laid at the feet of those in Washington, like Senator Collins, who knew better but voted “Yes” on a disastrous, deadly war.
Is this the first time you’ve experienced a campaign promise?
I was responding to someone saying he had no policies, when he has an entire list on his website.
Those are promises, not policies. He’s not in office yet, he hasn’t voted on anything, and he will be the junior member and highly subject to party discipline.
