I don’t actually think that software is necessarily neutral, and that for this sort of thing to be successful in the current landscape it MUST be Marxists who make it. Take Bluesky, for example. Or OpenAI is perhaps a better example. Maybe this breaks some people out of the “Elon bad -> Dorsey good” cycle of analysis as to why lemmy exists and maybe leads them to question the use of the “tankie” perjorative in general.
Personally I don’t see why the views of those that write software should really concern us, as long as the technical implementation is not biased. It’s open-source and people can take it and do with it what they please. No-one is forcing you to accept certain views or think about things critically (including assessing others viewpoints that may be different to yours). I feel like it’s a bit of a waste of time to worry about these things.
biases manifest in really strange and unexpected ways and you’ll fail even when you try to intentionally account for them; that’s why things like facial recognition success rate correlates to the darkness of your skin or why successful ai recognition of text/speech is related how different your language is to english or mandarin.
the only way to successfully gaurd against bias in software development is to have developer teams comprised of people can naturally keep each other’s biases in check.
as long as the technical implementation is not biased.
Piefed has been baking in biases though, like adding a bunch of leftist/international sources in a huge blocklist labelled ‘qanon’, which if you then want to disable it’s got to be done manually.
Not to mention clear disregard for breaking activitypub interoperability.
Fun fact, Rimu takes after George Orwell and keeps lists of “undesirables:”
There are zero hexbear admins on there. I feel ashamed. We have failed. One of the legs of the stankie triad has been broken.
Hexbear is fall.
Millions must post hog
Pretty sure that’s more because Piefed.social is defederated from Hexbear.net, there are some powerful posters beyond the defed wall Rimu would probably happily add.
The great defed-firewall isn’t designed to keep the bears in the cage. It’s designed to keep us out of your cage.
Pre-emptively as a last resort
Although to be fair, defederation has been used by Hexbear to protect marginalized comrades from more dangerous instances, so this is both justified and still keeping bigots out.
We call those mosquito net firewalls. Those nasty little things carry nasty diseases we don’t want to get transmitted among the community, and also even if they were clean of infectious matter, their nips itch and they annoyingly divebomb our ears all the time at night.
Yep, agreed, some instances would just raise the moderator workload incredible levels to stay federated.
@[email protected] add us to your list or your a lib
Lmao, who is this guy? db0 is cool, and so is Quokka 🤣 What a cooker. (p.s. will this get me added to the list?)
The head Dev of Piefed, and maybe it will!
Two years I’ve been posting communist propaganda straight from Bezos’s mouth, what have I been doing wrong that I’m not on the list 😔
I’m not upset, just would’ve been nice to be recognized
We’ll all get into the hall of fame eventually, comrade 🫡
Does anyone have the list of extremely cool and sexy posters?
I think it’s the same list 😎
Idk, not the list I’d see myself on 😂
You’ll get there!
i feel disappointed in myself, what am i doing im not on the list…
It’s okay comrade, we’ll all get there eventually lol.
In honesty, I think Rimu just scans certain threads and adds up everyone that doesn’t support them. If Rimu actually spent time checking everyone’s account, way more people would be banned as even comrade @[email protected] is on the list despite being one of the least confrontational people I’ve seen on the fediverse.
im upping the ante to get there comrade -.-7
🧉I am having my morning mate right now
for real? you from latam or syria? there was a big syrian migration to argentina and when some returned to their country they took mate with them. i cannot live without mate.
I’m from Iran but I worked with an Argentinian for a few years in like 2010 and he refused to drink mate by himself so we used to leave the office and sit outside smoking and drinking mate during breaks and I got hooked. Mi favorito es el Rosamonte, pero voy probando otras cosas. Esta mañana estoy tomando Hierbas Silvestres.
i’ve started getting into mate by accident recently because they were out of cold brewed coffee; something about it is dramatically more effective at making me productive and the thought of coupling it with a cigarette nicotine buzz feels like overkill to me.
but now that i know that’s a thing, i’ll probably end up doing it. lol
lol, yeah, mate has to be shared! si podes proba estancia la merced, tienen distintas “cepas” de yerba que van de lo mas suave a lo mas amargo. my favourite is barbacuá which has a smoky bitter taste.
Lmao, that’s fantastic o7
https://piefed.social/u/[email protected]
This user does not exist.Omfg piefed. When you are logged in you can see banned people, when you are not you get a blank page with “not found.”
Amazing web design.
Doesn’t even have a proper 404 view, but yeah “Lemmy’s development is too slow”
It’s easy to go fast when you don’t care about anything but new features.
Edie getting caught up in the ban wave 😭
Classic humans projecting their behaviour on cats. There is nothing to worry about.
Rimu’s secretly just a massive Orwell fan, that’s why they are implementing social credit scores, erasing people, etc. it’s all one big reference /s
I’m also deleted from piefed.social but not special enough for the list. I never coordinated with anyone, I just meme what comes naturally!
To be fair, there’s no evidence that any of us coordinated anything, it’s just what Rimu personally believes.
acts in an extremely hypocritical and provocative way that naturally raises lots of questions from many people
noo why are they’re coordinating attacks against me they need to be banned from everywhere 😭
Yea it’s all self-inflicted.
how dare people read the posts he makes and have opinions!
Yep, truly.
I wouldn’t assume he believes what he says.
I also wouldn’t assume that he doesn’t believe it, I could believe either outcome equally. Nevertheless, it’s how Rimu chose to present it, and how Rimu chose to present it is baseless.
Yeah I know what it is like to get targeted by people on lemmy like Sunshine but also I never tried to embrace, extend and extinguish lemmy while building tools to silence people. I just had opinions on an instance I paid for and ran.
Fair lol
Oh lordy, ever have one of those moments when you know you’re about to do something dumb, but do it anyway? Well, I would ask that you folks stop for a moment, and observe this situation from an outsider’s perspective. From where I sit, this very thread right here looks like a harassment campaign.
To an outsider’s perspective you read like someone with an agenda trying to muddy the waters. No one who has even the most passing understanding of what a harassment campaign is or looks like would see this thread and think that’s what’s going on here. People justifiably laughing at some bozo who put them on an undesirables list because they said things he didn’t like is not harassment. Wherever you’re “sitting,” it is definitely not from some neutral third party position like you’re implying, so stop making a fool out of yourself by pretending it’s the dozens of the rest of the commenters here who are saying things they’d look back on with regret and self-cringe, instead train that “outsider’s perspective” into a mirror.
Not sure how you see that. This list came out, and people are reacting to it.
When you comment on someone’s public actions in a public forum that’s a harassment campaign? Do words mean anything to you or are they solely weapons to be used against your enemies?
Yes, the reflexive “allies and enemies” framing of the situation does reinforce the image of a harassment campaign.
I don’t think you’ve understood the meaning of my comment. And I think anything anyone could possibly say to you would be reinterpreted / disinterpreted to fit the image of a “harassment campaign” since that’s what you’ve already determined the situation is about.
aaayyyyyyyyy we’re in baby
(this is such fed activity btw, what are the chances this guy isn’t a fed lol)
A fed getting paid to do this wouldn’t exhaust themselves to the point of burnout.
yeah probably just an imperialist for the love of the game
Honestly, that’s probably even more cringe than being a fed.
Honestly, that’s probably even more cringe than being a fed.
We made it to the cool club 😎
what happened?
lol, lmao even
