No investigation, no right to speak: if you were so uneducated on the subject, you shouldn’t have been confidently making assertions about it, including telling people who are educated it that they’re wrong based on nothing but your own arrogance.

And you given an explanation on why you’re wrong, but you chose not to engage with it because you’re too busy acting like a reddit pseudo-interlectual.

Go back to reddit

“how can you expect us to do anything when we barely even control the entire government. You have to deliver us a permanent one party state and we’ll talk about making some changes in a few decades”

Funny how that’s never an issue for Republicans

the US is just as bad.

*Much worse.

Really, it’s the people in power at each of these “super powers” that are corrupt and deserve to be removed.

Lol, westerners will only every criticize their own governments with the caveat that obviously nobody could possibly be better than them.

The only people spreading that rhetoric are children and bots. What are you?

Go back to reddit you insufferable fucking loser

If this means a government “of the people, for the people, by the people” that maintains a monopoly on violence to ensure no one is above the law/Constitution, then I disagree.

Given that the US was never that, obviously that isn’t what it means.

If this means a puppet state that the “elite” holds oligarchal control over, but maintain whatever facade of democracy they need to, then I agree. But I would not call that the US govt.

Incredible. No notes.

But if the structure of “government” that we end up with is completely powerless against them, then it’s objectively not the US anymore

Fucking incredible

Excuse me, sir, although what you said could be true taken straight from a textbook

Oh my God go back to reddit you insufferable dork

Just straight up lying at this point

That’s literally what you said

“Our country is unalterabley genocidal, so we shouldn’t worry about it or try to stop it.”

No you aren’t, you choose to keep sitting by and letting the trolly run over hundreds of thousands of people

That doesn’t mean that this strategy will ever work. It won’t happen instantly, but it also won’t even happen eventually.

Take a look in the fucking mirror. You’ve been doing lesser evil for decades, and all that happened is that you now support genocide and dog rape

I am actually building something. I just haven’t internalized your helplessness to believe that managing the bleeding is incompatible with that. Managing the bleeding is what preserves something to save.

“It’s critically important to preserve the fascist, genocidal empire! (I’m totally a leftist though…)”

Decades of lesser evil voting has led you to support the worst horrors humans can commit.

Teleology is concerned with securing the most favorable outcome

When a country makes torture, rape, and genocide a bipartisan policy, the most favourable outcome is whatever will collapse it the fastest. If you were actually sincere in your argument, you would have to vote for Trump.

But you’re not sincere, you’re just trying to justify exterminating hundreds of thousands of people for your own self interest.

Most of us sleep just fine not supporting dog rape genocide fascists. You’re the one trying to come up with all sorts of tortured arguments to justify yourself

This is like basic trolly problem shit.

No it fucking isn’t. Because the basic trolly problem doesn’t have the trolly loop back around to the start every four years with increasingly large amounts of new people placed on the track each time. You got your fucking “lesser evil” win in 2020, and it led to the worst atrocities of our era.

You’re not actually approaching this as a consequencalist, you’re just looking at your own self interest and trying to work backwards to justify it.

I don’t believe for a second you would still believe it was insane if it was you and your family being tortured, raped by dogs, and murdered on mass

This is the peak of “accuse other people of what you’re guilty of yourself”

Go back to reddit