China is a socialist market economy, not capitalist. It’s also run by the working classes in democratic fashion. The large firms and key industries in China are overwhelmingly publicly owned and planned, and as the small and medium firms grow they are folded more into the public sphere of influence. The basis of communism is in large scale industry, not in small manufacturing, so it doesn’t necessarily make the most sense to socialize small firms.

As time continues and the productive forces develop, these become economically compelled towards socialization, which is expedited by having a socialist economy where public ownership is principle. These are all basic Marxist observations about production and distribution.

China is still making rapid progress and hasn’t slowed down in that respect, though. It isn’t that they are following a temporary solution, it’s that they are developing towards that better world, and building that better world takes time and effort. There’s no such thing as a static system.

Well I’m imagining a classless, borderless society where everyone’s needs are met and it is fantastic.

China has not reached communism, which itself must be global. It’s currently in the developing stages of socialism, which is the necesdary prerequisite to the society you’re describing.

You gave me nothing to work with, though. What does it mean to be a “strongman,” and how does that apply to Xi? How is it that my “thing” is “following the party line?” I do have opinions pretty typical to communists, and I support existing socialism, but I’m not a member of the CPC nor am I paid by them, and I do critique them. Just because I do not agree with all critique of the CPC does not mean I don’t agree with any.

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How dare you imply I’d run as a Dem, lol

Territorial dispute with the Philippines (not “philipenes”) does not mean China is imperialist, nor does it mean they have a more “submissive and obedient population.” Can you elaborate on that last part, because it sounds like orientalism.

It’s still pro-Lemmy, just one portion of Lemmy.

All states are instruments by which one class asserts its power over the others, this is true. However, if you stop your analysis there, you confuse capitalist states where the capitalists dominate the state with socialist states where the working classes are in charge of the state. Equating the two based on the presense of the state alone, and ignoring its class character, is a massive error. Where capitalism brings ruin and misery to the working classes, socialism brings liberation.

How is this “anti-left?” And OP is an anarchist.

Not sure what you being Norwegian has to do with anything, but the reason you see a lot of pro-China sentiment on Lemmy is because Lemmy was made and is developed by communists, and Reddit banning communist spaces brought a lot of us here.

It’s a bit odd to act like people pushing anti-communism through vague complaining are “fighting the good fight,” so to speak.

Please explain the “long list of crimes” the communists are ignoring. There aren’t paid actors here. What “basic facts” are the communists ignoring?

Further, “brainwashing” doesn’t exist. People license themselves to believe that that which they think benefits them is good, you can’t force people into believing something against their will.

Can you explain what “Chinese propaganda” is? Is it just communists pushing back against western propaganda and responding with communist perspectives on China? Also, how did Phoenixz challenge anything?

Nobody says China is perfect, just that western perceptions are comically off-base and that the US Empire is indeed far, far worse while China is actively improving.

Oh, nice find!

No problem! If you want a place to start for a Chinese perspective, I recommend this resource list.

They don’t, though. In China, they call it the “June 4th incident,” and acknowledge that hundreds died around Beijing that day in conflicts between rioters firebombing the PLA and the PLA’s response. What the CPC censors is the now disproven western reporting of thousands dying, and the idea of the square itself having a massacre. Even Wikipedia backs that the square was dispersed bloodlessly. This gets twisted by western media into “censoring the massacre,” when in reality it’s censoring western misinformation meant to delegitimize China’s government.

That’s part of why I prefer Lemmy, it’s more reasonable when it comes to things like that (as in, that doesn’t exist). No problem on the ML question.

It’s actually authoritarian to not use handcuffs, silly, because you have to rely on mind control. /s

Every government censors, China focuses on limiting the speech of capitalists.