I agree, those are some great ideas! The eternal playlist bit sounds super cool as well, and I agree, I do like seeing SpaceDogs update. I personally really like themed local instances, they have a lot of opportunity to have fun community things, like Hexbear’s megathreads and Lemmygrad’s general thread.

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The Banderites in Kiev have killed thousands of people in Donetsk and Luhansk over the years, and were amassing a force to “finish off the separatists” before Russia got involved directly. The Minsk agreements were both tanked by the west and Ukraine, and could have avoided this war altogether. The movements in Donetsk and Luhansk are not far-right, they are a response to the far-right government that coup’d the president they supported:

Again, you have to believe that the people in the Donbass should quietly accept being ethnically cleansed by Banderites put in charge by the west, and that this is necessary despite the fact that Ukraine and Israel are close allies that aid each other millitarily. Call this “campist” if you want, but materially supporting Ukraine materially supports Israel and thus indirectly accelerates their genocidal settler-colonialism.

I don’t see how the top left has a moral compass when Ukraine is one of Israel’s strongest allies, and the two cooperate millitarily. Further, it requires one to believe the victims in Donetsk and Luhansk that were being ethnically cleansed by the post-2014 Banderite regime have no right to self-determination. Also not sure what makes the top right “accelerationist” or “revolutionary defeatist.”

You dehumanized people to defend a soldier with Nazi tattoos

Overthrowing the system entirely is the only way out of the continuous stagnation and decay from imperialism and settler-colonialism. The DNC is just as much an enabler of this decay as the GOP, as both are imperialist parties. Conditions will continue to worsen as time goes on, and people will continue to abandon electoralism as a viable means of gaining necessary change. It’s either socialism or total collapse.

Just for fun, I’d love to see you attempt to eviscerate the Republicans and Trump exclusively. This would be mostly to see how long before you blew a gasket and started attacking Democrats.

What does that even mean? I hate Trump and the Republicans, why on Earth do you think pointing out where they stand aligned with the Democrats is me “blowing a gasket?” These aren’t opposed sides, they both serve the same class interests.

Lmao

What is a “non-authoritarian” state? You didn’t answer my question, you just restated your assertion. What “alternatives” exist?

My position is very clear: the state is a tool by which one class oppresses the others, and this is by definition authoritarian. A working class state, no matter how democratic it is for the working classes, is still authoritarian as it oppresses the rest. This is a necessary step forward towards stateless society, however.

Why do you assume anyone against a former soldier with Nazi tattoos is a bot?

I personally think that any situation where people are pressed between Susan Collins and a boot that killed people for fun, we should be overthrowing the system entirely.

Oh yea, they’ll pretend we all disappear after election day after we’ve ruined the cycle or whatever.

The violence even happens regardless of whoever we vote for, the problem is pacifism in the face of oppression just sides with the oppressor.

It’s a good meme for sure, just wanted to put a positive, actionable spin on that. It’s up to instances to reject that shit.

I’d say this is more something done at the instance level. Each instance has its own vibe, some are very much on the dark road while others are on the light road.

No worries, comrade!

QinShiHuangsSchlong already responded pretty well to your sources, which are frankly pretty terrible. I’ll attempt to address the argument itself.

So I would suggest to rely on self-organized working classes.

What is the “self-organized working classes?” Why do you draw a distinction between the proletariat organizing state power, and the “self-organizing” proletariat? I assume you mean unions and the like, but these take on very different contexts depending on the system they find themselves in.

Are they supported or not by the organization, states or union we talking about ? U.S, Nato, Russian federation, Europe, Ukraine, Israel, People’s Republic of China, all this state crush unions or collective that ask too much or are too independent.

This is metaphysics. You’re taking a handful of fascist settler colonies, inter imperialist organizations, imperialist countries, and then one nationalist anti-imperialist state and one socialist anti-imperialist state, in order to equate them all. This is horrendously dishonest. Independent unions in, say, the US are organizing to contest the brutal exploitation of the capitalist system. China on the other hand has the largest federation of unions in the world, and is a socialist state, thus “independent” unions are contesting both this broader federation of unions and the socialist state itself. These are entirely different circumstances that you paint as equal.

And what we see is that supporting those state or organization weaken the expression of a self-aware proletariat and enforce the tools of its repression.

Except this isn’t the case of every state you listed, just some of them. You listed cases where this is indisputably true alongside cases where this is false and used that as evidence alone.

This is really where your entire argument rests on, the hope that people will not actually look beyond surface-level comparison to understand the complexity and context that fundamentally makes these cases entirely different.

I’ll do what I can! 🫡

I’d love to visit if I ever get the chance, for now the best I can do is pay attention to what’s available.

The crisis in Ukraine was sparked by aggressive NATO expansion, a western-backed Banderite coup in 2014, and the inability of Russia to resolve the ensuing civil war and ethnic cleansing committed by the new Kiev regime against the Donbass with the Minsk agreements. Russia wanted to join NATO decades ago and join the imperialist club, but the west decided it would rather re-colonize Russia, hence the reciprocation from Russia.

Aren’t you getting that reversed? Kiev has been attacking the seperatists in Donetsk and Luhansk, civilians included, since the Banderite coup in 2014.