China is socialist, the large firms and key industries are publicly owned and the working class is in control of the state. They don’t have a “strongman,” just because Xi gets re-elected. Stability is good if public support is high.

I’m not a mod, and contextualizing why I believe the USSR was a progressive project despite lacking in queer rights and being queer myself is something I still stand by. Running to MeanwhileOnGrad for some out of context screengrabs doesn’t help your claims.

Plus, all of those claims were reasonable except for nutomic’s, especially in context.

I think about what I write quite a lot, actually. People don’t become indoctrinated, they license themselves to believe that that which they think is beneficial to them is good. The essay Masses, Elites, and Rebels: The Theory of “Brainwashing” explains this phenomenon quite well. I’m aware of suicide bombers, cults, etc, but these aren’t a result of “reprogramming” or whatever you think China is doing, but instead due to people willingly believing that it’s correct.

You are being what the rest of the world criticizes China for doing to its citizens. Being single minded with out a way to see past the delusions, and regurgitate random info without actually disseminating the root of things.

The rest of the world doesn’t criticize China for this though, only westerners who’ve licensed themselves into thinking China is some dystopia. I haven’t regurgitated random info, I’ve directly answered your claims and built up my own defenses for mine.

Again, you thinking being paid or not doesn’t change the merit , it absolutely does.

Just like when red state newspapers report on news: they have to slant it to favour the payer or you don’t get paid. It’s how control works.

I’m aware of how bias works in media, but it doesn’t mean that everything they say is wrong. If they said the sky is blue, it would be correct even if they were being paid to say so. What you believe about China comes from people paid to discredit it, after all, so your argument is more that we can’t believe what anyone has to say if they are paid to say it.

This doesn’t even matter here, though, as I don’t get paid to do so.

Understood, I just wanted to build on your comment.

I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator, that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad. I don’t believe it’s a stretch to say that the way Rimu is developing PieFed is specifically to counter problems they have with Lemmy, including the large amount of communists.

Yep, it’s funny seeing db0 complain about people taking things out of context when that’s all MoG does.

Just NCD being NCD.

Why would they do that? Over 90% of Chinese citizens support their government.

Marxism did not invent that class previously meant things like “serf, lord, slave, merchant, etc,” this was something Marx just used that everyone else was using. Marx developed class struggle further by developing dialectical and historical materialism, but did not invent this conception of class.

Thanks so much! It really isn’t difficult to do, as long as you stick with what you know, and just try to be as patient as possible, it will work out!

I agree, it’s almost certainly bullshit.

Rimu isn’t developing tools to shut out capitalists because Rimu doesn’t have a problem with capitalists. I’m aware that anyone can use the blocking tools, my point is that the purpose of developing a tool that is easier to censor with is to support the views of the creator, that has already shown bias in the code by default blocking Hexbear and Lemmygrad. You probably have interacted with Rimu more than me, I’ve seen enough to build my conclusion that it’s easier to censor on PieFed and the motive behind these differences is largely ideological.

It all makes sense if you look at it from the point of view of Rimu developing a platform that suits their views and interests first and foremost. I don’t agree with it, but it’s logical and predictable with that frame of analysis.

There’s no “indoctrination by rote.” Again, the CIA tried to do this, and could not get it to work. This is a conspiracy theory. Further, whether or not I get paid to write what I do has no impact on the truth of what I say, like I already said it would just prove motivation for it, but the claims themselves are independent of that motive.

I understand critical thinking well enough, resorting to insults when you can’t effectively counter the points I raise doesn’t help your points, it hurts them rhetorically.

Rimu doesn’t like that communist views are common here, and is developing a platform where it’s easier to shut out those views. Part of that involves baking the censorship in as defaults for any unsuspecting new instance admin. When a feature on PieFed is made to shut out speech in a way Lemmy does not, it needs to be analyzed from that context, not in a vacuum.

I don’t think we are going to see eye to eye on this, if I am saying we need to look at everything within its context and you’re arguing that we need to judge it individually. My broader point isn’t even about the blocking bit, but about how it’s easier to make an echo chamber on PieFed, and that that’s by design.