Territorial dispute with the Philippines (not “philipenes”) does not mean China is imperialist, nor does it mean they have a more “submissive and obedient population.” Can you elaborate on that last part, because it sounds like orientalism.

It’s still pro-Lemmy, just one portion of Lemmy.

All states are instruments by which one class asserts its power over the others, this is true. However, if you stop your analysis there, you confuse capitalist states where the capitalists dominate the state with socialist states where the working classes are in charge of the state. Equating the two based on the presense of the state alone, and ignoring its class character, is a massive error. Where capitalism brings ruin and misery to the working classes, socialism brings liberation.

How is this “anti-left?” And OP ia an anarchist.

Not sure what you being Norwegian has to do with anything, but the reason you see a lot of pro-China sentiment on Lemmy is because Lemmy was made and is developed by communists, and Reddit banning communist spaces brought a lot of us here.

It’s a bit odd to act like people pushing anti-communism through vague complaining are “fighting the good fight,” so to speak.

Please explain the “long list of crimes” the communists are ignoring. There aren’t paid actors here. What “basic facts” are the communists ignoring?

Further, “brainwashing” doesn’t exist. People license themselves to believe that that which they think benefits them is good, you can’t force people into believing something against their will.

Can you explain what “Chinese propaganda” is? Is it just communists pushing back against western propaganda and responding with communist perspectives on China? Also, how did Phoenixz challenge anything?

Nobody says China is perfect, just that western perceptions are comically off-base and that the US Empire is indeed far, far worse while China is actively improving.

Oh, nice find!

No problem! If you want a place to start for a Chinese perspective, I recommend this resource list.

They don’t, though. In China, they call it the “June 4th incident,” and acknowledge that hundreds died around Beijing that day in conflicts between rioters firebombing the PLA and the PLA’s response. What the CPC censors is the now disproven western reporting of thousands dying, and the idea of the square itself having a massacre. Even Wikipedia backs that the square was dispersed bloodlessly. This gets twisted by western media into “censoring the massacre,” when in reality it’s censoring western misinformation meant to delegitimize China’s government.

That’s part of why I prefer Lemmy, it’s more reasonable when it comes to things like that (as in, that doesn’t exist). No problem on the ML question.

It’s actually authoritarian to not use handcuffs, silly, because you have to rely on mind control. /s

Every government censors, China focuses on limiting the speech of capitalists.

PieFed tracks how you interact and has scores for people, called “attitude” and “reputation.” These impact what you can do.

ML stands for Marxist-Leninist.

What part of it is “obvious nonsense?” Pointing at something and calling it nonsense doesn’t explain why, it’s just mudslinging.

There are sub categories in addition to worker and capitalist, such as sole proprietors, small business owners, etc, but society is dominated by the capitalists and their necessary pair, the proletariat.

“Tankie” is just a pejorative for anyone that upholds existing socialist projects as legitimate, so yea, “tankies” are usually communists.

Democracy means rule by the majority. In China, local candidates are directly elected, and then from among these higher rungs are elected, meaning people work their way up in the CPC from the bottom. The CPC itself has tons of polling and data it grabs from asking the public, you can see this in Five Year Plan formation. All of this contributes to a system where the working classes are the ones in control.

The CPC is a working class party, not a class in itself. In the PRC, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, private ownership is relegated to the small and medium firms, which are about half sole proprietorships anyways.

The idea that the party is a distinct class and the idea that an economy where public ownership is principle is somehow capitalist both are contradictory to Marx and common sense, so I’m not sure where you’re coming from.

A revolution would result in bleak reaction and capitalists in charge of the state, this is the opposite of what the working class wants in China.