This is entirely vibes-based. Capitalism, socialism, and communism are modes of production and distribution, not ideals or ideas. Capitalism is characterized by private ownership as the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes in charge of the state, socialism is public ownership as the principle aspect and the working classes in charge of the state, and communism is a post-socialist mode of production where all production and distribution has been collectivized.

China is a socialist country governed by a communist party. Public ownership is the principle aspect of its economy, and the working classes control the state. The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.

I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.

The US Constitution was written to protect slave owners, capitalists, and landlords. It is not written to protect the many. China, on the other hand, puts the working classes first and manages to use this system to uplift the working classes year over year.

No one place, I see the same mainstream western news as everyone, I just also read articles from outside the west as well, and non-mainstream sources too.

Why are you like this? Who pissed you off? You have no idea what I do or don’t do, just a minute ago you were advocating for revolution and when I tell you I organize with a revolutionary party, you backpedal and insult me.

There’s a massive difference between the claim that “996 is the norm” and the reality that this was largely restricted to large tech companies, is acknowledged as a real problem by the government, and that said government has taken concrete steps towards eliminating this entirely. Of course, reality is not black and white, just because something is formally illegal does not mean that it has been eliminated entirely, but this is a universe apart from the claim that “996 is the norm.”

Regarding the question of whether trade unions should be independent or incorporated and federated, historical practice proves the necessity of unity over fragmentation. The Jasic incident actually demonstrates this quite well, as western organizations such as BBC, Amnesty International, and Radio Free Asia got involved in the incident and tried to spin it. Preventing western influence over soveriegn structures is critical to the longevity of the socialist peoject, and the fact that unions must work within the existing socialist system is miles apart from the claim that “unions are illegal.”

As for students discarding what of Marxism they learn, this isn’t unexpected. No socialist country can manage to make all students interested in Marxism. Your claim, however, made it appear that Marxism itself is discouraged. Regarding the Peking University Marxist Society, the students had this to say:

As one of the students told The Washington Post, they believe “Once you study Marxism, you know real socialism and China’s so-called socialism with Chinese characteristics are two different things. They sell fascism as socialism as a street vendor passes off dog meat as lamb.”

This is not Marxist analysis, this is left-dogmatism. In the PRC, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy, and the working classes have political control of the state, not capitalists. The accusation of fascism is coated in Marxist analysis, but is ultimately left-deviationism and counter-revolutionary. Their accusation is ironic, and just like the Jasic incident, it is the exact type of fragmentation that undermines socialist construction through left phrasemongering and coating.

The claim that western orgs are reluctant to cover China’s working conditions is utter fantasy. In the west, we are drilled with propaganda about conditions in China daily. There is a real information war against China waged daily in the west. I’m aware that China is rife with contradictions, such is the result of a rapidly developing country trying to navigate ongoing class warfare, urban/rural mismatched development, problems arising from the existence of liberals and capitalists in China empowered by Reform and Opening Up, and more. However, the PRC is constantly and regularly improving, the state enjoys approval rates exceding 90%, and the CPC is regularly addressing the real issues in China.

Overall, your framing is highly deceptive. Rather than discussing real problems honestly, you try to hide their context, complexity, and nuance. This isn’t a Marxist method of problem solving and discussion, there’s no adherance to unity-struggle-unity. A discussion base built on deception is pointless, theory and practice must be united to be accurate and effective.

Thank you!

Yea you completely blew my comment away, lol. Great info, thanks for writing this up! 🫡

“Progressive” doesn’t really mean anything beyond “left of establishment democrats.” They range from liberal to socialist. Fascists are a twin of liberalism, worse but fundamentally connected.

You live in capitalism too, last I checked, and just because I don’t think complaining will change anything doesn’t mean I can’t complain online in my free time.

996 was declared illegal in 2021, and was mainly in large tech companies, certainly not the norm even before 2021. Meanwhile, the state executes billionaires and capitalists found guilty of corruption. Unions are entirely legal, they just have to be a part of the All-China Federation of Trade Unions, and not rogue. Marxism is studied in China, you can even get a college degree in it. Workers and students and their rights are defended and protected by the socialist system.

Can you explain exactly what you mean? It’s a mixture of half-truths and outright lies, and the half-truths deliberately leave out context and reasoning, such as the All-China Federation of Trade Unions existing as a sort of union of unions, China hasn’t made unions illegal. Your entire comment was unsourced, too.

Kinda hard to answer without clarity on what you mean by allegations. All allegations tend to work by exaggerating truth or distorting it, such as organ harvesting the Falun Gong coming from real state crackdowns on the Falun Gong as a far-right cult, but no actual organ harvesting.

If we just mean real missteps, I’m not a fan of how the PRC sided with Cambodia over Vietnam during the Sino-Soviet split. The cultural revolution also had excess that was avoidable, and the four pests campaign made legitimate famine worse.

For the modern day, LGBTQIA+ rights are lacking, but this varies heavily by region, and this has been getting better over time. There’s also rural/urban development gaps, though the CPC is trying to address this as well. Most real issues are being worked on and are iteratively improving.

The popular conception of China’s system doesn’t actually exist, though.

It’s a good thing for the working classes to wield state authority against capitalists. Not sure what you mean by “libertarian socialist/communist.”

The US Empire is a genocidal settler-colony. It cannot be rescued from itself, it needs to be overthrown.

I don’t think any hard stats have been gathered, but in Hexbear, Lemmygrad, and Lemmy.ml getting organized is one of the top recommendations.

Forgot about Stripe! That’s pretty spot-on! Just needs a cowboy hat and some voicelines. Would be a funny mod!

The used car market is volitile, regional, and often close to new in price. Stop blaming systemic issues on actions of individuals. I’m not saying that it’s impossible for one to make poor financial decisions, but instead that the very system is designed around maximizing profits squeezed from the working classes.

Existing within capitalism does not mean you cannot work to overthrow it and must ideologically support it by espousing liberal talking points.

The US is reliant on cars, but many people cannot afford buying them outright or low-interest loans. This is by design, not choice.

China isn’t a utopia, and does have problems. China’s problems are real, though, not invented, so discussion of China’s issues requires drawing a line between fact and fiction.

China is a socialist country, public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state. Child labor is illegal in China, you may be thinking of the US.