The idea of a social worthiness score doesn’t exist in China, though. They have a system largely for penalizing corporations and businesses that are caught skirting regulations, and a limited system for catching those who commit tax fraud and other crimes.

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Marxists are certainly critical of Putin and the Russian Federation, and see it as an incredible fall from their proud and progressive soviet past. However, the biggest obstacle to socialism globally is the US Empire, and Russia is presently playing a progressive international role in undermining it, and being a valuable trading partner for countries like China, Venezuela, the DPRK, etc. Further, the biggest opposition faction to the nationalists are the communists, not the liberals, so in time it is likely they will return to socialism.

OP said cryptofash, not communist 🤷

It’s also not applied at a national level, but in some areas, from what I’ve read, and is used largely against companies that try to skirt the law.

The Chinese political system is based on whole-process people’s democracy, a form of consultative democracy. The local government is directly elected, and then these governments elect people to higher rungs, meaning any candidate at the top level must have worked their way up from the bottom and directly proved themselves. Moreover, the economy in the PRC is socialist, with public ownership as the principle aspect of the economy. Combining this consultative, ground-up democracy with top-down economic planning is the key to China’s success.

I highly recommend Roland Boer’s Socialism in Power: On the History and Theory of Socialist Governance. Socialist democracy has been imperfect, but has gone through a number of changes and adaptations over the years as we’ve learned more from testing theory to practice. Boer goes over the history behind socialist democracy in this textbook.

The working classes in socialist countries are the ones dictating the state and its direction.

Why wouldn’t she? Imperialism is a bipartisan project.

You never engaged with the points I made, though. I engaged clearly with what you were saying, then you ran off to the Nazi bar to make a post about me. You can certainly understand how that makes you come across, right? Why would anyone want to work with someone that behaves like that?

I never said I was unwilling to take an evening to vote, the part where I disagreed with you was in your over-emphasis on voting as a legitimate vehicle for change. If you truly believe voting is important, rather than a “might as well,” then you aren’t learning from centuries of leftist struggles that inform us that this is a dead end. Running to an anti-communist Nazi bar after you got banned tells me how you actually feel about lefties.

This is all vibes-based. Explain exactly what you mean.

To be clear, Harris would not have stopped fascism, fascism is rising because imperialism is decaying and forcing austerity inward to compensate.

Can you elaborate? No, their populations are absolutely not in the same situation. Their social surplus is dedicated to fulfilling the needs of their people, not extraordinary profits for the few.

The PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, and Venezuela are already socialist and are not controlled by an international pedophile cabal.

There are existing socialist states, where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes are in control of the state: the PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, and Venezuela. We’ve indeed learned time and time again that socialism can and does exist.

What is the “global authoritarian parasite class?” Classes are specific relations to production and distribution. Are you referring to the top of the capitalist class, the imperialists in the US and Europe? I’m not sure how that relates to the meme. This meme is specifically about how liberals use terms like “authoritarian” to discredit existing socialist states, without an analysis of what that authority is used for and how it’s different from capitalist states.

I’m aware and am referring to the meme as well, as we all are in this discussion.

But that’s not what we are discussing here, we are discussing socialist states where public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state.

But in reality, the workers are not in control of the state

Can you justify this statement?

NATO is a platform for the United States to project power on the world stage.

• Mark Rutte, General Secretary of NATO.

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