It hosts far-right communities like NonCredibleDefense and MeanwhileOnGrad, the head admin thinks social progeessivism and trans rights movements in the west are funded by Russia and China to undermine the west, and many mods are Zionists. An individual member may be fine, but the overall character of the instance is cryptofash.

Go for it, make sure to read with an open mind.

I’ve sourced my claims thus far already and you never responded to that. Famine was common in China, and factually ended by the communists. Do you think I just drew that graph myself? You made your bullshit claims, back them up. Here are some sources for you:

• Friendly Feudalism: The Tibet Myth

• Taiwan: An Anti-Imperialist Resource

• Tian’anmen Protests Reading List

• Socialism With Chinese Characteristics: A Guide for Foreigners

• Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation

Go ahead, read the sources I’ve linked previously and in this comment. Rethink your argument after that.

That’s how cultural hegemony is maintained in the imperial core, after all. Can’t have a successful alternative or the whole thing crumbles.

Yep, but I’ve heard similar bullshit like the PLA having mandatory suicide helmets and whatnot, so at this point I’m not even surprised by it.

The poverty eradication campaign alone has made a dramatic difference, let alone the electrification of China and expansion in solar and EVs.

Agreed, I would believe it to be bait if it wasn’t for the fact that I’ve heard similar shit in real life.

Oh, gish-gallop! Throwing random bullshit at us with absolutely no sources in the hopes that it will tire us.

Explain to me how killing 30-50 million people is acceptable in this shining example of socialism

Assuming you mean via famine, famine in China was not deliberate, and was common pre-socialism. Socialism ended famine in China, and as a result life expectancy doubled:

How about genocide?

There is no genocide committed by the PRC.

Massacre?

What exactly are you referring to here? The crackdown on the western-backed Beijing riots back in 1989?

What about Tibet?

Tibet was a torturous feudal system built on slavery, backed by the CIA to oppose the rising socialist system in China. The PLA liberated Tibet, and now quality of life for the working classes in Tibet is skyrocketing.

What about the impending invasion in Taiwan?

There is no “impending invasion of Taiwan.” Taiwan is internationally recognized as a part of the PRC, and the CPC is waiting on Taiwan to willingly fully reunify with the mainland of their own volition. The US presence on Taiwan makes this difficult.

Are these the everyday normal citizens taking their “control” over their system and saying GO FUCKING LEAVE A TRAIL OF BLOOD HERE AND HERE AND HERE?

It seems most like you support feudalism, slavery, torture, and othet far-right institutions and governments. Yes, ending famine, protecting socialism, and liberating the working classes is worker democracy in practice.

It’s very very easy to point out that China has a brutal and immoral system with very common sense examples.

If your “common sense” is “actually, feudalism and slavery is good” then you need to reconsider your “common sense.”

But the truth is obvious.

The truth is indeed obvious, that’s why you can’t source any of your bullshit.

What on Earth is a “controller class” or “psyop model?”

See, the key flaw here is that I’ve come to the conclusions I have precisely because I’ve researched these topics. You have been given scholarly sources proving you exactly wrong, and your only response is “nuh-uh.” That’s not acceptable proof in any setting, even a comment forum.

As for China’s system, it’s socialist because public ownership is the principle aspect of the economy and the working classes control the state. It has a highly particular socialist model fit for China’s present conditions, but it is plainly and simply socialist as fits the general characteristics of socialism.

Your thesis is being ignored because of 2 reasons: 1, it’s wrong, and 2, your only source is your own word. When scholarly sources debunking your claims are presented, you just deflect.

You don’t even seem to know what socialism is, and you seem happy to say a socialist country sucks, so your own word saying you like socialism rings extraordinarily hollow.

And it’s CPC, not CCP. Communist Party of X is the international format.

You do need evidence to back your claims. Literacy rates were chosen as merely one example to prove the effectiveness of socialism in China at dramatically improving people’s lives. One person’s anecdote, especially when said person has no idea about basic socialist concepts like idealism vs. materialism, is not at all sufficient.

The truth is that capitalism sucks, and socialism works. You haven’t demonstrated that you even understand what these systems are, and have been confidently incorrect when others have explained them to you.

You add more invented problems like the idea that the CPC is “hiding atrocities.” Why should anyone take you seriously?

It’s mocking the false nuance many liberals bring. I say this because I know OP is a communist, and must have seen the massive amount of false nuance liberals point to.

CGTN is pretty mainstream for news from China, they have English news. The Cradle is typically decent on reporting from the Middle East. For western and glonal news from a communist angle, BreakThrough News and Geopolitical Economy Report are both good.

Apology accepted.

There are tons of models of socialism, China’s model is just the model that is working for them. Every nation has its own characteristics that shape how socialism will look.

Nah, you’re repeating far-right talking points. You have no counter-evidence other than your belief that underdeveloped rural areas cannot possibly achieve high literacy rates, when exactly that has happened everytime socialism has been established around the world. Further, in recent decades China has been focusing on the urban/rural divide.

Increasingly common these days, many people are saying the same. The specter is haunting!

Revolution happens in crisis, it isn’t something you can force. That being said, as the US Empire is deteriorating, this makes it more and more likely to hit a crisis that can turn into revolution every passing day.

Literacy rate by country, 2026. China is at 97%. Get out of the 20th century and turn off Fox News.

Roland Boer’s work is useful because it’s meticulously well-researched and sourced. Unfortunatley, for someone actively hostile to the idea of democracy in China, simple works are easily tossed aside as “propaganda.”