The worst is when they compare the DNC to the rebels, when Lucas himself said the rebels were basically the Viet Cong.

Gotcha.

Awesome, thanks! I hope they’re useful for you!

What is a “proper communist country?” The people on Lemmy.ml by and large agree with what the broad majoroty of practicing communist parties believe, including groups like the Black Panther Party.

It is true though, users should be able to pick up on that the instance that makes copying communist theory a part of the sign up process might have communists.

Socialism doesn’t dictate that everyone gets paid the same. That’s why I said between communism and capitalism is the transitional stage of socialism where people are paid based on their work, while we try to orient society in a manner fovused on satisfying everyone’s needs. Through existing in socialism, proletarian consciousness is also developed.

Not a single person says the Russian Federation is socialism. You’re confusing people critically supporting its movements against the US Empire with people believing it to be socialist. They do have rising socialist sympathies among the populace, but that doesn’t make them socialist.

To be fair, Lemmy.ml does as well, it forces you to copy a section of The Principles of Communism before joining.

Technically it’s Engels, in The Principles of Communism, last I checked.

Eventually the goal is to work as people want to to satisfy everyone’s needs, but between now and whenever that’s achieved, people will likely continue to get paid more for more intense or moe trained labor. My point is that the variance between wages and the amount capitalists rake in is astronomical.

You do realize that you can check the sources compiled by Qiao Collective, right? I also referenced the UN and PRC. The travel influencer bit was an addendum, not the core focus

Because I don’t trust anecdotes from individuals. I’ve spoken with people that think Trump is a communist. I haven’t spoken to your friends, and I don’t know what specifically it is that you’re arguing, because you’ve been vague. I’ve been clear in stating that China isn’t committing genocide against Uyghurs or trying to push out ethnic minorities, and that’s true, but you’ve been far more vague about what it is that you’re trying to argue.

The best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective’s Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is explicitly pro-PRC, but this is an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims.

I also recommend reading the UN report and China’s response to it. These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does.

Tourists go to Xinjiang all the time. You can watch videos like this one on YouTube, though it obviously isn’t going to be a comprehensive view of course. I don’t know if you’ve been to Urumqi, or Xinjiang in general, but this is another way that we can see what’s actually going on.

The ideas pushed by the west, ie mass sterilization, an erasure of Uyghur culture and language, mass killings of Uyghurs, etc are nearly entirely devoid of evidence.

love to defend imperalism

No?

supports capitalistic explitation of foreign labour (as long as its not US explotation) No? What do you mean by this?

oh and opposes anyone arming themselves in opposition to said imperialism

No? Again, what do you mean?

Clearly you can see that my point is that some criticism is real and some is not, right? I’m not “strangely” admitting anything, I’m acknowledging real critique while pointing out that some critique is not genuine. There are people saying China is doing to Xinjiang what Israel is doing to Palestine. They are wrong, of course, but acting like they don’t exist is silly.

Critiquing China based on real issues is good. “Critiquing” China based on exaggerations and atrocity propaganda is bad. LGBTQIA+ rights fall into the former category, the overwhelming majority of allegations surrounding Xinjiang fall into the latter. This is in no way contradictory.

Yep, this also extends further, other sources will cite the buzzfeed article, etc, like a giant source ouroboros.

Neo-Nazis aren’t really supporting Palestinians, and moreover there is ample evidence of Palestinian genocide while there’s very little evidence of a supposed genocide in Xinjiang. The Xinjiang atrocity campaign is being used the same way as Saddam’s supposed WMD, which also had little to no actual evidence.

Secondly, some Chinese do list their pronouns on English sites, but moreover I can support the combatting of western atrocity propaganda while also believing China has a long way to go on LGBTQIA+ rights. I consider myself cis, I list “they” as an alternative because I know some people don’t want to be referred to as “they/them.” I prefer he/him in most cases, but am okay with being referred to as they/them, while others certainly aren’t.

Right now you’re doing the bit where Zionists say queer people shouldn’t support Palestine because groups like Hamas are anti-LGBTQIA+. The wheel of social progress moves faster when not being killed at scale, and we can see improving LGBTQIA+ rights in China over time.

There is good criticism of China, but the problem with how Xinjiang is portrayed is that it’s the most reactionary, anti-communist people that are pushing the genocide theory the most. They armed seperatists and radicalized them in order to foment a block in the Belt and Road Initiative. The idea that China is pushing out non-Han ethnicities is wrong, China’s NPC has great minority representation, ethnic minorities are well protected, and Uyghur culture is flourishing.

Living in whatever balkanized section of the former US Empire turns socialist (or closest to it), with my family.

The US Empire isn’t committing genocide in Palestine and attacking Venezuela out of “stupidity.” The US Empire is rational, and acting in its own self-interest. Israel is a US millitary base in west Asia, and Venezuela is daring to go against US imperialism and try to harness its own production and resources for their benefit. The US Empire’s aggression is rational, not simply a matter of stupidity.

Venezuela under Chavez and Maduro has seen dramatic expansions in social welfare, democratization, and poverty alleviation. The opposition wishes to establish itself as a comprador class to sell out their people to the US Empire. Venezuelans have the choice between resisting the system that keeps them perpetually underdeveloped, US imperialism, or resist that and risk millitary confrontation. Venezuela has bravely chosen the latter, and going along with imperialist framing of Venezuelan leaders just cedes legitimacy to the narrative the US Empire is concocting to justify invasion.

It isn’t really viable within the confines of a dying capitalist empire, though.