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Cool, anecdotes don’t amount for much. Nazi Germany was far more corrupt and slaughtered millions of people, and modern Germany is an imperialist country that supports the genocide of Palestine more than most European countries do.

Corruption was far higher in pre-socialist countries, and in countries that pivoted from socialism. It wasn’t the communists that murdered everyone who disagreed, but the capitalists and imperialists.

Communists have been responsible for the greatest eradications of poverty in history, massive gains in quality of life metrics, and working class control. Communists currently run the world’s largest economy, which itself is making dramatic improvements year over year. Capitalism is a pure failure that has committed countless genocides.

I’m not spinning anything, you asked a question about communism and I answered, and now you’re moving the goalposts to revolution and early socialism.

I’m not “defending deeply flawed stuff.” There’s a difference between genuine critique, and just lazily parroting right-wing views on a country divorced from what the actual population believes. I’m not disingenuous either, despite your repeated insults and clear bad-faith over and over again.

While I appreciate the olive branch at the end, I don’t feel like agreeing to that when you’ve been bad-faith and insulted me the entire time, including in this comment, so I can’t certify I won’t respond to anything you say in the future as well.

I did, and I believe it’s a strong indicator of wishing to return to socialism, especially when combined with other metrics like huge increases in communist party membership and soviet pride.

You’re mixing up the revolution and ensuing socialist period with the communist, fully collectivized period. “From each according to their abilities to each according to their needs” applies to the fully collectivized communist period, and doesn’t need to be “enforced at gunpoint,” it just exists without capitalists anymore. The revolution does have appropriation from capitalists, as well as the socialist period of gradually collectivizing society’s production and distribution.

They do. For starters, famine was ended after the. 1930s (outside of World War II), and prison death rates weren’t astronomically high nor were prison populations particularly high either.

• As for increase in communist party membership, over four years, more than 63,000 people have become CPRF members, with most of the new recruits being young people under 30 and “people of prime working age.”.

• “We are now seeing not just nostalgia for the past, but a conscious choice by millions of citizens in favor of the socialist path of development,”

• We restored all ties with the Communist Parties of China, Vietnam, the DPRK, with India, with the Arab countries, with Latin America, with Cuba, with Venezuela, with Nicaragua.

• The expansion and astronomical growth of grassroot movements like the Inmortal Regiment. This movement grew so large that plenty of countries around the world organized a similar march. It started small until it grew in a international movement.

There are other examples, but it’s clearly on the rise.

It’s not a banal authoritarian shithole, though. There’s a wide gulf between “paradise” and “bad,” and it’s much better than being a “shithole.” Again, the vast majority of Chinese people support it, including queer people.

No, I did not say they have to be gradual with queer rights (though Cuba had it’s own period of homophobia in its early days too). My point is that, whether anyone likes it or not, they are still gradually improving in that respect as well, rather than declining and dying.

The US.

That doesn’t explain the rise of communist party membership, nor can you wash away the fact that quality of life metrics were higher in the soviet union for the most part than they are today in post-soviet countries.

My point is that while China has problems, it’s steadily improving. Throwing in fearmongering about things like “censorship” and incoherent jabs at Marxism concoct a viewpoint that is just passively chauvanistic. I’m not queerphobic, nor am I denying that China has problems to work through, I’m trying to get you to view China more sympathetically and not as some terror regime the people are in constant fear of. The vast majority of people in China support their system, and that includes queer people, so it’s obviously something they understand is improving as well.

I don’t really care what you think of me, if I’m being honest. I have seen extreme bad-faith from you, as well as incoherent points and a refusal to accept facts. Replying to you is more for others to see, than it is to change your mind, as I can see that it’s highly unlikely you will.

Gotcha, so at best you’re ignorant of the situation and are posturing based on assumptions, rather than actually talking with them to get their perspectives. I understand not wanting to use social media that isn’t like the fediverse, but then you have to make that concession. Seems more like self-censorship than anything China’s doing.

Script? It’s easier than ever to talk to queer people in China, that’s a fact, and it’s also a fact that conditions are steadily improving. Being vague like saying “it’s grim” or that you can’t because of “censorship getting worse” isn’t a point, or anything I can engage with, beyond telling you to actually talk to them.

Capitalists already steal value from workers by paying them less than the value they create. One short bout of “theft” to take back what was stolen over centuries isn’t really theft, it’s returning what’s owed.

No, it doesn’t lol. There are still open sauce packets and napkins. People don’t have endless greed for that which they don’t need, especially if their needs are already met by strong safety nets like they are in socialist countries. Even in capitalist hellholes like the US, you still find restaurants with free napkins and plastic utensils, etc, and people don’t generally grab as many as they can.

Then you should talk to them more, they are often on Rednote too.

I do read the primary data, and it’s also true that in many formerly socialist countries there’s surging sympathies for socialism and surging communist party membership.

Yes, capitalist property is hostorically siezed by the people through force, just like feudalism was ended by force. I don’t have rose tinted glasses, I know force is required, I just see it as necessary and the outcome extremely positive.