

I’m not angry. I’m pointing out the simple fact that the reason those bases are being attacked by Iran is because they’re used to wage a war of aggression against Iran. I’m just trying to explain to you why those troops are active participants in this war. I don’t know why it’s so difficult for you to understand that frankly.


The only one confused here is you. The goal is to enable military operations against Iran. That’s why those bases exist in the first place. These troops are part of the war of aggression, and whether they have an offensive role or not is utterly irrelevant to the discussion. To put it in terms you might understand easier, if you’re a getaway driver for a bank robbery, you can’t use that an excuse to claim that you weren’t part of the robbery.


I mean they are literally helping the US by working at the bases the US is using to attack Iran. You’re trying to draw a weird distinction here between them providing support by operating at these bases and actively engaging in attacks. In both cases they are active participants in the war of aggression against Iran.


I’ll try to explain this to you one final time. These troops are ‘defending’ military bases which are used to attack Iran. Let me know what part of that you’re still struggling with. Bases that are used to attack Iran and countries hosting them are the aggressors.


And those troops will obviously be used to support military activities against Iran. They’re not going to just sit there and jerk off. Gulf states are direct participants the same way brits are. They’re hosting US bases that are used for striking Iran. Calling that defending yourself is the height of idiocy.


The British actively allow the US to use their bases for refuelling and staging attacks. These are absolutely actions that directly help the US in the war. Anyone participating in a war of aggression is doing the opposite of defending themselves.


They are very clearly participating and directly facilitating attacks on Iran. Let’s not try to spin this as anything other than that.


because Europe is American protectorate


reunification was a mistake


Daddy’s in trouble, and the British are there to help.


looks like Europe is sitting this one out, except for Germany of course


I imagine this is where the US actually sees a benefit being the largest supplier.


I was, but the fact that Russia isn’t doing big offensives doesn’t mean they’re struggling either. I expected there was a good chance the AFU could collapse, but they held things together. And drone warfare now makes it much more costly to do large scale offensives, so it settled into attrition. Now that the war in Iran has started, there’s going to be far less attention put towards Ukraine as well. Which is a good reason for Russia to provide aid to Iran all of itself.


I mean he can do that, but that’s not going to magically open the strait. Iran effectively has unlimited resources compared to whatever the US navy can bring to bear. They’re on land, and fighting on their home turf. The US has a fundamental logistical disadvantage here, and there’s no way around it. The US is no physically capable of opening the strait.
But, let’s for the sake of argument assume that the US could magically open up Hormuz. Iran can simply destroy the rest of oil and gas infrastructure in the gulf in response. So, there’s going to be nothing to ship at that point. They’ve already demonstrated their ability to do exactly that. They hold all the cards here.
Right, the entire point of the petrodollar is to perpetuate US hegemony, and that’s precisely why the US is fucked now. As long as Iran controls the strait, they control what currency a huge chunk of oil will be traded in. Meanwhile Russia, which is the other major oil exporter, is already trading outside the dollar. On top of that, I expect that many countries will start getting serious about renewables out of sheer necessity. Even if the war stopped tomorrow, it’s going to take years to rebuild the infrastructure that’s been already destroyed. This isn’t a short term shock countries can just ride out. So, we’ll see more oil traded outside the dollar, and less demand for oil going forward. This is basically the worst possible outcome for the US.
Whatever the US agrees with OPEC is completely and utterly irrelevant here.


OPEC can’t settle anything at all when they can’t ship their gas and oil. And to do so requires dealing with Iran. They can continue to insist that they will settle in USD, but they can’t actually move the goods without Iran’s approval. That is the conundrum.
Of course, Trump and his inner circle aren’t going to be affected by any of this, but that is besides the point. What matters is that if the west collapses economically, then we’ll be living in a very different world. The boot of the west will come off the neck of humanity, and the rest of the world will finally have a chance to breathe.


the reading comprehension issue where I already repeatedly told you that you’re free to believe whatever makes you feel good. Nobody is trying to stop your dumb ass from believing whatever you want to believe. I’m just trying to explain to you that it’s time for you to move along. Go back to sniffing glue or whatever it is you do pass the time. Bye.


I see you have reading comprehension problems. I don’t care what you believe. You can wallow in your delusions to your heart’s content. I’m not here to stop you.


It’s not that simple. Iran is now demanding that oil tankers that pass through Hormuz are settling in Yuan, which directly attacks the petrodollar hegemony. On top of that, US economy depends on trade with other western aligned economies. If they go down, then the US will be dragged down as well. And people in the US can’t exactly afford stratospheric increase in gas prices either. Another problem is that fertilizer exports are now collapsing, and that affects the US as well. If fertilizer isn’t in the ground by May, then the harvest will be lost with yields collapsing. All of this is very bad news for the US.


Why would I waste time giving you another source when you’re just going to tell me that your dreams are more valid? If you genuinely cared to understand Russia’s military industry capacity, then you’d spend the time to learn about it instead of making clown of yourself here. You keep on manifesting there kiddo.
And I was solely explaining how that makes them part of the war.