I expect that the US will continue to escalate. Leaving Iran will be seen as a massive strategic defeat, and it will show all the vassals that the US is no longer an unchallenged global military power. It would also mean that the US influence in West Asia would collapse, and with it so will the petrodollar. Iran is already forcing trade to shift to yuan now.

All that said, I can’t see any way the US could actually defeat Iran. So, further escalation simply means further destruction of the region, and depletion of the remaining American resources. The longer the war goes, the worse off the US will be in the end. On top of it all, there’s also the global economic crisis that stems from the war, and it’s predominantly hitting US allies in Europe, occupied Korea, and Japan. As their economies start crashing, they will pull the US down with them.

It’s all part of the same crisis really, there are many dimensions to it.

You could even get 100% of your panels, it’s what total percentage of energy production that amounts to overall that matters. Absolutely incredible that needs to be spelled out for you. Let me try using an example that somebody with your mental prowess might be able to comprehend. If you have 100 power plants, and one of them is a solar plant that you bought from China, then you bought 100% of your solar plants from China, but that’s still only 1% of your total power generation mix. Let me know if this example was too complex and you need me to break it down some more.

Illegal state aid, as in state aid that is against EU laws, keep up buddy, not that complicated!

Last I checked, China isn’t part of the EU.

China is absolutely dependent on energy imports.

China is dependent on energy imports that largely come from Russia nowadays. And having cheap and abundant Russian energy allows Chinese industry to have much lower inputs than European industry does.

nowhere close to the higher end which are 10-15 times higher than China

You sure love providing sources for your claims. That’s what makes them so believable.

The world is a very different place now to 5 years ago. China has shown by backing Russia in the war against Ukraine that they are an enemy to the EU.

When the whole world is your enemy, maybe you’re the problem. Smug eurotrash like you deserve everything that’s coming to you.

I mean the point it makes is still valid. There’s almost certainly going to be a farming crisis, and there’s no way around that now.

Yup, the EU is free to set rules that harm its own economy. Has been working out real great for y’all, like when you made the brilliant decision not to invest in solar and wind from China. And you keep using this word, illegal, I don’t think it means what you think it means.

LMFAO imagine thinking China is not winning against Europe. Last I checked China has basic things like energy and fertilizer that are out of reach of geniuses in Europe. And sure buddy, quality of life, tell me more about that https://www.businessinsider.com/typical-chinese-adult-now-richer-than-europeans-wealth-report-finds-2022-9

And yes, such amazing solar and wind build outs in EU, that they don’t even shift the needle now that Gulf energy is cut off.

I’m so sorry that you got your education at a clown school.

The whole thing was basically a giant grift from the very start.

not beating the accusations of huffing gas there

Have you been to feddit lately?

it sure did https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/footage-iranian-down-f16

I mean it’s stealth in one spectrum. Evidently the geniuses who designed the flying Cybertruck didn’t consider other spectrums like thermal.

The funny part is that I bet Trump admin didn’t know either. It’s like when he started the tariff war and then started discovering how dependent the US is on China.

Not really sure how that works in practice given that Europe isn’t exactly self sufficient, especially in terms of energy.

Thank you for taking your valuable time from huffing gas to grace us with your profound insights.

EU is not really an export power in any meaningful sense. But even if that was true, you could make exact same argument with the US which directly competes with Europe on exports. Europeans have had absolutely no problem sticking their heads up American ass as far as possible.

Meanwhile, everybody is free to run their internal economy the way they see fit. The whole premise of free markets and capitalism was efficiency. It was supposed to naturally outcompete planned economies like China. If the model isn’t actually working then Europe could acknowledge that and emulate what China is doing instead of whinging. Or accept that they have an inferior model of economic development.

Finally, the EU very obviously doesn’t give a fuck about protecting its economy. If it did, it would’ve never allowed itself to become so dependent on energy imports from the US. The EU kept paying lip service to the idea of going green, but refused to invest into stuff like wind and solar because it came from China. Now the EU finds itself being bent over a barrel by Americans. And it’s frankly well deserved.

do go on

• https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176
• https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2021/0218/Vilified-abroad-popular-at-home-China-s-Communist-Party-at-100
• https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree
• https://web.archive.org/web/20230511041927/https://6389062.fs1.hubspotusercontent-na1.net/hubfs/6389062/Canva images/Democracy Perception Index 2023.pdf
• https://www.tbsnews.net/world/china-more-democratic-america-say-people-98686
• https://web.archive.org/web/20201229132410/https://en.news-front.info/2020/06/27/studies-have-shown-that-china-is-more-democratic-than-the-united-states-russia-is-nearby-and-ukraine-is-at-the-bottom/

In a sane world yes, but in reality there’s a lot of racism and notions of white supremacy at play here.

they also lost a hog

Europe being hostile towards China isn’t exactly news though. It’s the break up of the Atlantic alliance that’s the real story.