Griffin added more details to her initial post, writing, “A senior US official tells me that it was a US military strike on Iran’s Qeshm port and Bandar Abbas moments ago but added this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire.”

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    At some point, words still need to mean SOMETHING so at least a transfer of information happens. At this rate, by next year they’ll be down to pointing and grunting.

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    Apparently this was a “live tap”. Only a man with the sexual history of Donny the Demented would think that.

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      Well he probably thinks Qeshm was asking for it by dressing that way …

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    but added this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire

    What in the fuck? When Iran retaliates, are these people gonna cry that Iran broke the ceasefire?

    This is so childish.

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      Straight from Russian playbook. Just straight up lie in front of the whole world. Your fanatics will believe you anyways and the doubters won’t know who to trust.

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        its been the american playbook since at least the gulf of tonkin which brought us into the vietnam war. its nothing new that donny is getting from his bff putin.

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        As a “doubter,” I know not to trust a single word ever said by Trump. The only thing that matters are his actions, because those can be read no matter what he wants me to think.

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      Toddler logic:

      Ceasefire means you stop, I can still do what I want.

      People forget trump has always wanted a forever war to cancel elections.

      He doesn’t want to permanently fix anything, he wants it ready to blow as an excuse to cancel an election.

      Don’t forget Bibi has canceled like 4 consecutive Israeli elections, it’s his bread and butter and he’s running this show.

      The war won’t end while trump is in office.

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        I know Bibi is running the country lika a dictator, but has he really cancelled any elections? As far as I can tell, since 2000 there have been Knesset elections 2003, 2006, 2009, 2013, 2015, 2019, 2019 (again), 2020, 2021 and 2022 with the next one expected in October this year.

        Doesn’t sound like there have been any cancellations, considering the members serve four-year terms, however, there have been plenty of early elections.

        Can you clarify what you meant by him having cancelled Israeli elections?

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          They don’t have regular elections, they can happen as often as every year.

          Bibi has cancelled due to “war” since 2022, and while there is an election scheduled this year, that has been true for every year since 2022 as well.

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        I expect a false flag attack, blamed on Iran, to happen right before the midterms

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        He’s also likely hit the Alzheimer’s stage of his life. Combine his general impulsivity with the characteristic impulsivity of Alzheimer’s. Now add in his likely cluster B personality disorder. Anything can happen at any time.

        Reason may not be involved at all.

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          apparently because Americans seem OK to bring the world to ruin before attempting to organize a general strike or protest on a week day

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            I would pay so much money to watch a PPV fight between any UFC fighter and everyone in Trump’s cabinet. Starting with the president and VP, of course.

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    Not a restarting of the war? LMAO this administration thinks we are STUPID.

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        Twice.
        TWICE

        The first time was moronic, but the second is unforgivable. Just unforgivable.

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      thinks we are STUPID.

      the majority of the country voted for him or abstained… so yes… amerikkka is stupid

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      The most significant issue with an idiot is that they will always assume that everyone around them is less intelligent than they are.

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            Yeah but we’re talking about America where education through the 12th grade is compulsory. By virtue of passing every American with a high school education should be capable of analyzing and consuming media at a pre-collegiate level. More than half can’t do it at even a sixth grade level. Half of Americans are functionally illiterate. Just look at any reddit thread or any America centric fediverse thread.

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      It thinks Republicans are. Because passivity from the Republicans in the Senate is all he needs to keep the war going. I certainly have no faith in the military to reject unlawful orders themselves.

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      Basic article, but news snippets & headlines (sans article reading) can work the same way. As one example, we are now seeing pregnant women shun Tylenol, not for anything specific they remember, just a vague “I heard it could be bad for the baby.”

      MAGA knows what they say in brief sound bites, on repeat, can and will have similar impact.

      Not on all. But they don’t need all. They just need enough absorbing the info in this way to keep us divided and forever following different information.

      https://health.clevelandclinic.org/mandela-effect

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      Nah, they think you’re powerless. And they’re generally right.

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        It’s true statement and a sad one. People need to turn that around, they are not powerless, but they are conditioned to think so.

        You hold the power…if you choose it. You are not ants to be squished.

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    Y’all are missing the point of saying it’s not a resumption. Of course it is. But they have to lie. If they admit they’re resuming, it means they’re in violation of the war powers act by going past 60 days. I expect the next lie will be that actually, this is a totally new military operation and the clock has reset.

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      Neat thing about the war powers act is all the president has to do is tell Congress they need 30 more days to “wind-down” operations. Then they get 30 free more days to do whatever

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      And when they need to justify the war they claim we’ve been at war with Iran for 47 years.

      Each lie is made for each argument or question they are addressing and does not need to be consistent with prior lies.

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    this is NOT a restarting of the war or end to the ceasefire

    Fires

    “This is not an end to the ceasefire”

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    You can’t restart a war that never ended or end a cease-fire that never started

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    Sundowning Preznit Fuckwit is bigly mad because the trumpstein files are being brought up again.

    There. That is why bombs are being dropped. Because a pedo doesn’t like when you shame his child raping activities.

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    Jennifer Griffin phrased this really poorly. (Fox News isn’t really known for intelligence…) Three ships were fired on, and they returned fire with retaliatory strikes, per USCENTCOM. https://www.centcom.mil/MEDIA/PRESS-RELEASES/Press-Release-View/Article/4480437/centcom-protects-us-warships-transiting-strait-of-hormuz/

    So, the war isn’t back on, but it’s not off either. For a cease fire, there’s been a lot of firing going on. The US never should have kicked this hornet’s nest.

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      I’m seeing different things. Now seeing it being called a surprise attack by the USA which Iran retaliated to.

      The order of events is probably going to be disputed for a bit. Most interesting part is that there are some reports that significant damage was done to US military ships.

      If sailors are dead, Trump will go nuclear. Not literal nuclear. But still…think he will just yell until they agree to let him go full on invasion.

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    “CENTCOM confirms Iranian forces fired on U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyers transiting the Strait of Hormuz.”

    I wonder why US ships transiting the strait

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    Trump was probably told by Putin a ceasefire is when the other side stop fighting and you are free to attack because that would actually pan out.