ICE’s approval rating among Americans currently sits at negative 13 points, a recent poll revealed.
More Americans support abolishing the Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency than at any point since it was established in 2003, new polling shows.
According to data examined by Civiqs, 42% support getting rid of the agency while 50% oppose doing so, a split of just 8 points. This represents a major shift from a year ago, at the start of Donald Trump’s second term, when only 24% of Americans supported abolishing ICE and 59% opposed the idea, a 35-point split.
The 27-point change over the past year comes as Trump uses the agency to terrorize immigrant communities and overrun U.S. cities in the name of his mass deportation campaign, often using tactics that are not only harmful but illegal.
Doesn’t matter so long as Republicans are in power.
50% oppose doing so
I don’t know if I’d support abolishing them. But I would definitely support reeling them in, defunding them by a lot, and having a lot more oversight, including from the states, on where they can go, and how they are used. All the cosplaying bullshit should be taken away from them (and cops, too) - the militarization is just ridiculous.
And for sure - none of these fuckers should be masked. Not ONE of them should be allowed to do that job anonymously.
If those changes are not on the table, yeah, abolish ICE.
So I really wonder how that 50% looks if you were to dig in. Probably a LOT of nuance in there.
Meaning that still not all Americans do
What. The. Fuck.
My guess is that another ~10%, many of whom probably don’t know that ICE hasn’t existed for a very long time and that it’s post-9/11 power grab bullshit, just want to reduce it’s powers to what they were doing before Trump because they think it’s neccessry for anti-terrorism or something.
(I support abolishing ICE 100% btw, but we gotta learn how to communicate to that other 10%…my mom is against abolishing ICE and she spends more time complaining about Trump than I do.)
Yeah we’re literally surrounded by dead eyed brainwashed nazi enablers. It’s almost impossible to reason with these propagandized imbeciles when were up against a Zionist billionaire funded propaganda machine
Having a group you can join where you can kill almost any individual you want is incredibly alluring for some.
For example, employment with ICE helps incels greatly. If some woman has offended you, then you can anonymous tip ICE, bring some other ICE guys with you to wherever she is, and kill her. “Uhhhh, she pulled a gun on me! I was so scared I shot her 20 times in the chest!”
I am certain that a lot of people in the US wish they could have power over life and death like ICE does. If ICE (and similar organizations) are abolished, the power to kill people without any recourse will be weakened.
I think this pretty much answers the question “are humans evil?” Spoiler, yes.
It is good people want to Abolish ICE. But you still have to deal with bipartisan obsessed Dems who won’t ever agree to it.
Americans don’t support domestic terrorists. Who would have thought?
Except that 50% of those polled do support them, which is higher than the percentage who don’t according to this same poll.
Those aren’t Americans, those are brownshirts.
I’m so tired of hearing about polling data.
Yeah everything being almost a clear 50/50 split between should we have a democracy or should we be fascists is not good.
With 3-8% undecided
“A little more than half of Americans are wondering whether things are sub-optimal!”
“A fraction of Americans think politics are headed in a direction.”
“Does garlic salt make you more gayer-er? One Florida man feeds their alligator to find out.”
Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought “does everything have to be a poll?”
It’s like those Japanese gameshows with a “reaction” window of the “famous talent” so everyone is told how the action on screen is supposed to make them feel.
I mean data is good, right? “Knowledge is power”? Maybe it’s the engineer in me but getting many snapshots in time and seeing the trends is kind of important. I’ll take this over anecdotal speculation any day.
They overwhelmingly supported abolishing ice pre 2020 and the Democrats response was increasing funding to their highest levels. They will never get rid of a tool they love utilizing
They had to do a poll to figure this out?
Yes! Half of the population is still fine with this!
I don’t care who is president, they ain’t abolishing ICE. The fed govt won’t give up this power now that it’s been granted it. Just ask em to undo the Patriot Act while you’re at it.
Here is a counter-arguement. It is the responsibility of the citizens to make sure things like the Patriot Act or ICE are used a fair manner with oversight and restrictions.
The notion that “the government” is some external entity is an easy and satisfying polemic, but it’s not helpful in practical sense.
Just ask em to undo the Patriot Act while you’re at it.
Unironically, yeah, we can do that.
We’re gonna get the first fair Dem presidential primary in decades, and in the general the “not maga” vote that even got Biden elected in 2020.
If we spend time telling progressives to vote in the primary, we can have a FDR style candidate. If we keep shiting on the current party for what it’s predecessors did, then it’ll depress primary turnout and that same wing snatches the party back.
We’re gonna get the first fair Dem presidential primary in decades, and in the general the “not maga” vote that even got Biden elected in 2020
Lol we’re gonna get Gavin fucking newsom
If people tune out of the primary, which is why the most important thing right now is making people aware the party changed directions.
Billionaire owned media won’t tell anyone
Politically, dismantling an agency that’s intended to improve public safety can only ever backfire on whoever supports it, regardless of how unpopular that agency is.
Imagine if TSA were to be dismantled, and a year later we have another 9/11. Whoever supported dismantling the TSA would never work in public service again.
It’s the political equivalent of blowing out the pilot light and telling your kid to play with matches inside the oven.
So we just need yet another agency, intended to keep us safe from ICE.
Good sign overall ahead of midterms this year. I’d much rather this than see more of the country cheering this on.
Register and vote Democrat.
Edit: Democratic Primaries are coming first, and IF you don’t know for a fact that your state has Open Primaries, then you must register Democrat in order to try to vote in more progressive Democratic candidates and vote out aipac trash from the party.
Edit 2: Whew, lots of wedge-driving bots from .ml and hexbear asserting classic false-equivalence whataboutism fallacies in order to sow defeatism and apathy.
Democrats have contributed to the situation we are in.
Democrats are the only way to improve the situation we are in.
(Audience beware the lemmy.ml / hexbear poster who submits garbage like, “Republicans are honest fascists. Democrats are fascists in disguise.” lol.)
Then why have the material conditions for the working class gotten worse over the last 25 years when your Democrats have been in power for 13 of them? Democrats are covert fascists
You don’t understand how Congress works, do you?
Ehh the Democrats ounce In power will undoubtedly increase ice funding just make it less blatant so no they aren’t a solution.
Ehhh this is total bullshit speculation not even grounded in historical reality.
Give me the Biden days over these Trump days any day and spare me the false equivalence trope that is convenient for Republicans.
ICE saw their largest increase of federal funding under Biden. Democrats provide a gun to Republicans than try to act surprised when they use it
Would’ve happened regardless; the problem was a majority of Americans were convinced immigration was a problem. This was an attempt of appeasement of the masses ahead of the election.
I stand by what I said.
Except it’s exactly what Biden did in 2020 and what Harris promised to do if she won so very grounded.
Except it’s really not.
Anyone who thinks Renee Good would’ve been shot and killed under Biden or Harris administration are patently delusional and enabling Trumpian dogma.
Anyone want to play a game of identifying how many ICE murders there were between all of Obama and Biden administrations versus Trump?
Edit: Back, tankies! Back I say!
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The only place those images are banned are in the minds of liberals that believe the propaganda that they are banned in their respective countries
Ah the good ol’ “nothing would fundamentally change” days.
That should be the slogan of the Dems.
Ah but I mean one thing would fundamentally change.
Renee Good would still be alive and three children would still have their mother.
Register unaffiliated. Vote Democrat.
Especially if you’re in a red or Trump x 3 state.
Texas sent their voter registration list to DHS. We can all take wild guesses as to what they are going to do with it…but personally, I don’t want to be on a curated list of “political
targetsopponents”.I’m guessing their goals are twofold:
- Purge registered Dems
- Figure out how many votes they can manufacture without going over
I understand your concern, though one should register as a Democrat at least temporarily unless you know your state has Open Primaries if you want to reform the Democratic party.
If you want to vote to get AIPAC and corporate Dems out in primaries and put better ones in, then you must register Dem for closed primaries.
Worth noting that all the information on your demographics and behaviors is already easily curated from what the state and corporations already have on us, unfortunately.
… Nothing ever gets done, sadly
