The Trump administration is proposing to ask visitors from several dozen nations that enjoy visa-free travel to the U.S. to submit additional personal information before entering the country, including five years of their social media history, the Department of Homeland Security said in a notice this week.
Citizens of 42 countries enrolled in the visa waiver program can generally come to the U.S. for up to 90 days for tourism or business travel, without needing to apply for a visa at an American embassy or consulate, a process that can take months or even years.
The list of countries in the visa waiver program includes many European nations like the United Kingdom, Germany and France, as well as some U.S. allies around the world, including Australia, Israel, Japan, New Zealand and South Korea.
“will have to” is such a misleading phrasing… Many of them will visit elsewhere. Fuck that shit for tourism. It’s not worth it, not to see some sites.
none will be asked of RUSSIAN, Saudia arabia, UAE, israel no doubt.
People need to seriously stop coming here. Pull out any and all business you are able and cut America off. If we’re going to act like a walled garden, why support it? Help keep this cancer contained and stay the fuck away from anything America or American.
You could not pay me to go to the US. Id sooner visit Syria.
You’d probably be safer there.
Tourists? Straight to cecot
I don’t know why anybody still chooses to go to the Untied States
They are stupid would be my assumption. This said as an American.
How is Chile the only country in the Americas in the Visa Waiver Program? (Minus French Guiana)
They really want to kill the tourism industry.
Tank every sector of the economy possible. Amazing.
Jfc, they’ll dissolve Hawaii into the ocean
This is protection. Protection for a snowflake trump administration against JD Vance memes. Egos in this government are too fragile for repeated meme attacks and therefore they must be stopped at the borders at all costs. God I wish this was a joke
“Sir, the memes are coming from inside the house!”
So, I guess it’s been foreign tourists who have been planting pipe bombs and shooting up our schools?
Exactly. That tourist may look harmless with their camera and suitcase. But there are actually pure blooded chaos agents sent to destroy our beautiful nation. -s
Surely nuking the entire tourism industry (again) will fix the economy!
Well there are still people stupid enough to visit the Untied States now, I don’t know what would have to happen to get through to them
we will probably see the results after christmas,.
They don’t want their kids exposed to different cultures. Much easier to keep people bigoted when they never meet a foreigner.
Especially for world cup!
I wish the conservatives realized with tariffs and having no tourism to the U.S. we will surely starve.
They don’t care, as long as the rich are unaffected
The good news is that pretty soon there won’t be any foreign tourism to the US, so no one will have to enforce this.
I don’t believe this will make much of a difference if people are still stupid enough to visit the Untied States now
I’m sure they’ll find somebody else.
As if people are even planning to visit. I’m not, not even when Trump is dead.
Maybe when the union is dead, but yeah they are speed running the collapse of an empire.
The list of countries in the visa waiver program includes many European nations like the United Kingdom, Germany and France, as well as some U.S. allies around the world, including Australia, Israel, Japan, New Zealand and South Korea.
Side note: interesting that European countries are not included in the list of allies.
Because we are all required to use social media?
Yes. If you don’t, they’re gonna label it as suspicious
Iv unironically not been hired for jobs because of this. Because of how well I separate my online and offline life and my entirely non use of Facebook, Twitter, etc. iv had background companies report me as suspicious due to lack of information.
It’s fucked up.
Not required to use, just access to all your social media. In addition, the rules want your phone history, including texts and 10 years of emails. Also remember, this (Lemmy) is considered social media. So, good luck if you have ever posted anything on a forum that a bunch of Nationalist Christians, or Nat-c’s for short, don’t like.
Why would anyone agree to providing them with ten years of emails. That’s insane. It’s private. Just absolutely no way ever.
This is why you don’t use your real name online.
This is why governments are pushing age verification to track you while pretending it’s to protect the children.
its to silence dissent against israel, and right wingers, and young people are the most avid at using social media to communicate thier displeasure of govts.
Yeah how are they supposed to know this is my account? How are you even supposed to provide them with all of this info? And how are they going to review all of this data if they can even obtain it in the first place?
AI.
And a throw away email.
And how exactly do they enforce this? I’m just curious, like you get off the plane, walk to customs and immigration, and they say you need to hand over your phone?
They are revamping ESTA. Currently, many countries citizens do not need a visa, but must get the electronic ESTA, to travel to the US. You can’t just walk off a plane and gain entry, you must have prior approval. They are going to try to check everyone through some AI bullshit and make it hard or scary to even come to the states, denying you entry before you even get on the plane. This just fits right in with making America a bigger shithole and destroying it.
Yes, they already do that. That said, if you have good op-sec, you’re not going to have your social media on your phone. At least, not your real social media, or if you do, you’ll have it behind a password they can’t break and that you’re not going to give them, so this is not really about getting into everyone’s social media per se, it’s more about providing them more excuses to detain people they don’t like, increasing surveillance of people who they know are probably not really doing anything wrong to begin with, and the chilling effect that surveillance provides in controlling those people who are not really doing anything wrong.
I’ve been through customs and immigration and I’ve never saw them ask for anyone’s phone before. That said, no one knows what they’ll do anymore, maybe just shoot us in the face 🤔
I know people who have had to give them the phone. It doesn’t happen every time, it doesn’t happen to everyone, it doesn’t happen often, but it definitely does happen, and from what I understand, they can refuse you entry if you do not. I’m not in a position to say how common or widespread it is, but there are enough anecdotal stories to convince me it’s probably decently widespread, albeit occasional and possibly targeted. Like you said though, no one knows what they’ll do anymore, maybe just shoot you in the face. And that’s kind of the point. They want that environment of uncertainty and not knowing when the bullet is going to come for you.
No, but if you do, the (American) social media companies will tattle on you, guaranteed.
Sir, please refrain from any discussion, just hand us over your Facebook.
