But not alcohol or anything else…I wonder what demographic he’s trying to target
They can have my gun, but it comes with bullets.
While cool of you to say, realistically the most pro 2A amendement nutjobs are awfully quiet with the US descent into fascism since said nutjobs likely voted for the Nazi. This is leopard eating my face
Never threaten.
Even if you have the ability to defend yourself against a bully that is motivated by piss and vinegar, that doesn’t mean you want a target on your back or for them to see you coming.
My guess is that many of the people who are willing to resist kinetically aren’t going to say anything or threaten anyone.
One day, a thug kicks down the wrong door and punches his own ticket. The next day the paranoia grips the jackboots and they start passing gun laws in a hurry.
Lots of cold dead hands after that and no one is willing to volunteer to be first in line to kick off that process.
Historically, this is why police come after you while you’re in a car, at work, or otherwise out and about. I’m curious whether, if it ever came to that point, a court would approve seizure* of any records at gun ranges or otherwise to gather data on people who might have guns (being very specific with that ‘might have’ wording), and then issue warrants to seize said people on the street, and then issue search warrants for the home. It would be a pretty wild reversal of evidence and probable cause. The politicians and cops would try to sell it to the maga fools as being the only way to keep cops safe from antifa terrorists, and I’d bet they would buy it.
That (judges signing off on such wild bullshit) would be so far into fascist territory that we might as well be at the bottom of fascism lake.
*This would probably be a grand jury subpoena, which both has lower evidence needs and relies on the reasoning that your transactions/records with a business are not as private as other areas of your life. Cops give these to DAs all the time to gather evidence on a case without the need to go to a judge, so blaming the courts here might be too hasty.
I’m not a pro2A nut job, I’m a stoner that owns firearms and won’t be willing to give them up without a fight. I don’t mean it as a threat, just a statement of fact. If the state comes to take my guns, without a REALLY good reason, that seems like the point where I start fighting back, damn my job, damn my house.
Just… saying this here, mate, but if that’s the case, unless your opsec is so tight that the nsa wouldn’t know if you’re trump himself posting for funsies, you probably shouldn’t state that out loud. That is literally what the other fella that replied to you meant when he said ‘threat.’
I mean, I would have to scrub my entire Internet history for that to make any difference. Look at Platner and Palantir, I have posted about owning guns, smoking weed, and my mental health for years. That cow is out to pasture. If there’s a list, I’m on it. I rely on being a small drop in a large sea of gun owners that have posted similar shit way louder with their name proudly displayed above it.
Fascist regimes eventually come for the guns
Fascist regimes always come for guns. Governments that come for guns are not always fascist
A implies b, but b does not imply a.
Is your assertion that this is not a fascist regime? Otherwise you simply repeated what I said in the first sentence.
No, my assertion is that a government coming for your guns is not the reason it’s fascist
Second amendment people… wheeeeeere arrrre youuuuuuu?
Getting their ball gowns ready
Trump also passed the bump stock ban in his first term. New federal gun regulations under Obama and Biden combined: 0
It always fascinated me how Americans are like “you can have a thing that shoots fire and death” but the barrel can’t be this long or it can’t have rail attachments or it can’t fire too fast or be a certain color or whatever.
And don’t even think about screwing something on the end of the barrel to make it less damaging to your hearing, that is gangster shit that needs heavy regulation
IIRC, the suppressor thing was to try to curb poaching during the great depression.
The funny thing is that’s only a guess. They didn’t actually discuss silencers at all when they were passing the law.
Yep, most of the major Second Amendment restrictions have happened under the Second Amendment presidents. Reagan, Bush, Trump.
Clinton passed the Brady bill and an AW ban so let’s not pretend that didn’t happen but yeah, Repubs do wtf they want and the NRA bootlickers keep licking boots.
Always a “but but whatabout cLinToN” as if that resolves the injustice Republicans historically have committed.
Oh sure. No one’s denying that. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy of it. As fucked as the NRA is, you can at least expect them to act consistently with what’s in the best interest of the gun sales lobby. Second Amendment people in general not so much.
gun sales lobby
NRA has been pretty credibly shown to be nothing but a Russian divisionist arm. They really dont care about gun sales, just social unrest
It’s definitely some of column A and B for sure.
We’re going to take the firearms first and then go to court, because that’s another system. Because a lot of times by the time you go to court … it takes so long to go to court to get the due process procedures. I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida; he had a lot of fires [and] they saw everything. To go to court would have taken a long time, so you could do exactly what you’re saying but take the guns first, go through due process second.
-President Donald J Trump
Bump stocks are just unsafe though.
Unlike the rest of the rifle. Which is perfectly safe.
The rifle as a tool is just as safe as a log splitter, wood chipper, machete, drone, or the 3000lbs car you hurdle down the highway at 80mph. It’s the operator of those things that can be dangerous.
Bumpstocks, however, make the weapon discharge unexpectedly and is stupid to own or operate.
Show me a log splitter or wood chipper that can be used to kill dozens of people in five ten minutes.
Machete you’re still probably only get a few.
Drone? Not unless you strap an explosive to it.
A car is the only one that can even remotely cause mass casualties.
“Just as safe” is an extremely bad faith argument if you even have a basic understanding of guns. Even accidentally, when is the last news story where a five year old Suzy accidentally threw her brother Tommy in a chipper.
I hate that argument. I think we can all agree that while all items you listed can be dangerous… Only one is manufactured to intentionally be a weapon. I haven’t seen very many wood chipper attacks on schools lately.
Thanks for the laugh, friend. What a great movie.
Tucker & Dale vs. Evil (2010)
…but you’ve seen a rifle take itself to school and start blasting? Recently I’ve seen a guy plow a car into a group of peaceful protesters and I’ve seen a pack of drones fly themselves into Russian bombers.
Even countries that don’t allow citizen weapons are armed to the teeth because their neighbors are as well. The first time I saw an assault rifle in real life was on some sort of police at a TGV station in France… and if your argument is “yeah but they’re trained police and militaries”, those are some of the most unhinged and unstable people I’ve ever met.
I know we need stricter gun control laws, and I know that societies without citizen weapons have lower to no mass shootings. I know we need free/low cost healthcare. I’m arguing that there’s nothing more dangerous about a rifle over other things in your garage but bump stocks make a rifle dangerous and unpredictable.
I’m not going to argue about who should or shouldn’t be permitted to own firearms. I grew up around them and in general don’t have issue with them. (On a side note: I do have a problem with firearm tough guy culture) I do however think it’s silly to pretend they aren’t manufactured as weapons and pretend that normal tools and objects are on the same level as them. They are designed to kill.
Funny you compare fire arms to cars, because I believe that both fit in the category of “things your average person should not have in public”. I want more regulation on guns AND cars.
And just because nitrous mods are illegal, doesn’t make your average car any safer.
Agreed. Fuck cars. Going from LA to SD on the train is so much more peaceful, has WiFi, 120v, the right of way, and beautiful views.
About nitrous, I knew an Impala guy that pulled us out of the office one day and opened his trunk and points to a spare tire on top of a perfectly carpeted and mounted box. Says “do you know what that is?” Ummm, you’re hiding your no2 from the cops? “How did you know!?” Idiot.
A machine specifically designed to kill is not a “tool”, unless you count it as a tool of destruction.
Counterpoint… Hunting and gathering. That animal you’re eating didn’t kill itself. My trowel kills some of the plants I’m harvesting, and a fruit starts to die once it’s cut from the vine. Destruction is necessary in life. It isn’t automatically an “evil” word. We as a species wouldn’t exist without destruction, death, and decomposition.
Now, whether the existence of humans at all is a good thing, is a question for Nietzsche and Douglas Adams. We aren’t the greatest.
The cool part about fruit as a food source is that the plant literally makes that part to be eaten, for seed dispersal.
Wait until you learn about automatic trigger resets.
unsafe and stupid, like crank triggers and cmags and all sorts of silly rambo shit 2a idiots like to fetishize.
fuck I think anyone trying to call a 5.56 rifle cut down into ‘pistol’ form should have their fucking heads examined, that is by far the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen. “oh it’s the atf’s fault for having loopholes in their rules” yeah, because no one in their right minds would call a rifle w/o the buffer tube a fucking pistol.
basically the entire gun fetish is dumb. you want to fuck with guns, explosives and hurt people? get fucking paid for the experience mate, the military is happy to train. but no, the ice lardasses can’t even do 15 pushups or run 1.5 miles in 16 minutes lol. but they want their guns un huhhhnn
awww the rifle pistol crowd is cranky with their fetish being called out. boo fuckin hooo
They have a buffer tube, otherwise they wouldn’t cycle, unless we are talking about something like the SIG MCX then the buffer system isn’t in the tube.
They just don’t have the stock making it not intended to shoulder, the stock, not the buffer tube is what makes an SBR.
yeah this isn’t universal. I’ve seen one setup that had no tube, assumed that was the silly ass attraction to the whole stupid fucking thing. had some kind of warty plug bit that was maybe 2" long where the buffer tube assembly would be, assumed it was a something along these lines:
https://www.80-lower.com/80-lower-blog/how-to-build-a-bufferless-ar-instructions/
If the bulk of them have tubes what’s the fucking point then? so you can have your ‘arm brace’ mounted to something?
it’s all so fucking stupid
It’s to make the gun not a rifle. Rifles have to have stocks, that’s it, that’s the point. If you want a short gun that shoots an intermediate cartridge it’s an AR which is really common and the ammo is cheap, or an AK which skips the buffer tube but ammo is more expensive. Or something like a cut down mosin nagant since they used to be really cheap so why not.
Rifles have to have stocks
ok buddy. look, you can’t just make shit up for whatever you want either.
the defining characteristic of a rifle is not a stock, it’s the rifled fucking barrel. a musket had a stock, it doesn’t make it a fucking rifle.
so fucking sick of the 2a dictionary squad having to sound off at every single fucking thing they perceive as inaccurate from their years of deep training with the gravy seals meal team six.
Their mouth is full
In fairness to them, a lot of guntube, gunsexual youtubers, are clinically dissecting every aspect of Charlie Kirk’s assasination.
Long story short: Tyler Robinson is almost certainly a patsy, there was almost certainly a shooter up and to Kirk’s right, from nearly 90 degrees, thats where the shot came from, it is physically impossible that the damage seen, and reported in the autopsy, was caused by a 30.06 from almost straight in front of him.
Almost every single detail about the scenario as presented by the FBI is completely impossible to make work all together.
A lot of guntube is very, very pissed about this, they know the administration is blatantly and obviously lying to them and everyone.
And no, I am not going to bother arguing the validity of this with any more idiots who know nothing about firearms, these guntubers are correct, I am just pointing out that… there is actually some motion there, from the 2A crowd.
The implication is that the rifle found was a plant, and the guy’s admission of guilt is false. It’s not even like they leaned on him in the interrogation room. He just went to them.
That seems a bit of a stretch on its face. Much more so than assuming the bullet did something that can’t be immediately explained.
Got links?
Sure!
You’d probably have to watch more than one vid from this guy’s channel at this point to… get the whole picture, but here we go:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zTbaj8DNE3I
Thats him going into the autopsy, and how the described wounds and injuries are just impossible from a straight on 30.06 shot.
He has another video debunking two common but impossible theories, one being that Kirk was wearing body armor and the shot some how deflected 90 degrees (he was not wearing body armor), another one that … apparently some people were saying his lapel mic exploded or was a gun itself, also bullshit…
He goes through a bunch of stuff.
He is also apparently personally going to various places to document No Kings, ICE protests… I have not watched those videos… but it should be pretty obvious that this dude is your actual stereotypical angry Republican with a Gun…
And in this video, at least the first couple minutes…
https://youtube.com/watch?v=HRs138gtWV0
He says something like ‘No wonder everyone is pissed when all but maybe 3 of your politicians are comprised by Mossad’, which is a bit hyperbolic, but not really wrong, hooray AIPAC, and also … seemingly genuinely, shouts ‘Release the Epstein Files!’ while marching with the No Kings rally, not being antagonistic to anyone there.
So… yeah. At least some of the ‘2A’ crowd is indeed getting fed up with Trump/MAGA’s bullshit.
But I’ve really only watched his specifically related to the Kirk assasination videos, so, I have no clue what the totality of his politics are.
But but… this is just one guy, and there are a good deal more than just a single “ex-sf gunbro guntuber dude with shades on in his truck twitter profile image” type person who is on youtube, making videos going into how the FBI’s Kirk assasination story makes no fucking sense, and who are quite pissed about how obvious these lies are.
I’m way too lazy to watch, but did he cover a low charge bullet and/or dirty barrel? I don’t know about rifles, but an uncleaned handgun can throw a bullet sideways and all sorts of weird shit.
I’m a big fan of simple explanations. Which is it was the kid and something weird happened.
“Puts on conspiracy hat” The next option would be a foreign actor (Russia or Israel probably) pulled off a crazy complicated operation to show trump they could get to his friends. But it’s extremely unlikely there was no evidence of the kid being manipulated and “helped”. Unless the FBI is covering it up, but then why wouldn’t they also fudge the other evidence?
“Down the rabbit hole” If you go full tinfoil hat, assume Trump’s ear shooting was a setup by him for votes. (There’s a lot of goofy shit in those videos) Then him and Kirk decide to do it, to get Kirk national recognition and set him up as Trump’s successor. But the bullet misses, shit happens, instead of just hitting his shoulder or whatever; bam dead Kirk.
I still find one the simplest explanation, but who knows
Inagine being this dense.
Drinking
getting fuckin’ ripped on booze and probably smokng meth
Not like there a whole liberal tech community that could do some 3d printing…
Marijuana isn’t a narcotic fucking morons.
The 4473 specifically mentions that Marijuana use in states where it’s legalized prohibit the purchasing of a firearm.
Whatever it is, it’s not going to stop anyone from getting a gun that wants one, it just demonizes marijuana users so it’s fucking stupid. If they were serious about gun safety there are dozens of other measures they could put into place first.
It’s more about letting someone know they’re breaking the law if they buy it. It’s also something that can be added onto charges if they commit a crime with the gun. Lying on the 4473 is a crime.
I did once have someone try to buy a gun using a medical Marijuana card as ID because their driver’s license was expired.
Uh… It is by either definition of the word “narcotic.”
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A substance that affects mood and is taken recreationally; often illegal.
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a drug that relieves pain or induces sleepiness.
Marijuana fits both. But so is alcohol.
Tylenol is known to improve depression symptoms. Fits both too. QED, narcotic.
https://news.osu.edu/your-pain-reliever-may-also-be-diminishing-your-joy/
Dictionaries. What the hell does it know? It’s merely a reference. ;-)
“The pirate’s code is more of a set of guidelines than actual rules.”
Generally, yes, sure, but for most purposes the term narcotics is used for opiate or opioid drugs.
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As per the DEA, “Marijuana is a Schedule I drug with no accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse.”
According to federal law it is.
Trusting the feds, with anything, now, are we?
To be fair though: That isn’t what defines a narcotic. It also is a bullshit classification since marijuana does have acceped medicinal uses.
In this case, the definition of a narcotic is in the eye of the lawmaker. In 1970 Nixon said cannabis was one of the worst drugs and got it placed among Schedule 1 drugs. Somehow it has remained that way for 55 years.
I totally agree cannabis and some other so called “drugs” have medicinal uses.
In normal times this would never come up but these are not normal times.
<tinfoil hat on> Trump is trying to de-legitimize and weaken all of those he thinks may oppose him. Pot smoking gun owners sounds exactly like a group that would fight back.
Isn’t Trump a gun owning felon?
Let us know as soon as you find a LEO and a judge who will enforce that.
I’d love to send trump into low earth orbit but what’s the plan exactly ?
He seems like a real milquetoast kinda bitch. I wonder if he’s ever fired a gun.
I’d really love to know how the maga crowd feel about that, it’s a question I’ve had for quite a while.
Trump literally said last time he was President take the guns first, due process second. maga crowd still gargling.
So rare!
Charleston Heston “From my cold dead hands”
