• Dr. Moose@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    I’m not an american, but it seems like the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.

    There’s this vibe of self-destruction in american society that is rooted in the 2 party system: one party is your mortal enemy and another doesn’t quite represent you - so everyone just low key feels like destroying the whole thing rather than working on making it better.

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      Money In Politics

      Two Party System

      Gerrymandering

      Electoral College

      The four horsemen of a Democratic apocalypse.

      If we could fix just one of those four issues, things would gradually start to get better. But the politicians in Washington don’t have the political will or desire to do so, because removing any one of them naturally limits their power and authority.

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        I would argue based on 2025-26 the US is a one party system. A party of corruption, graft and self-enrichment.

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          I don’t disagree, but the problem stems from neither party being motivated to be anything more than ideologically different from one another, and the system being designed on purpose to squash a viable 3rd party from ever emerging. If we instead had a parliamentary system and did away with FPTP voting, we could have more coalition building around issues rather than feeling like we have no choice but to select what we deem to be the lesser of two evils, and political parties would be forced to fix issues rather than just campaign on them.

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      America is a one-party state, of course. But in typical American extravagance they have two of them.

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        OK guys, I have the greatest idea! July 4, 2026 will be the country’s 250th birthday! Let’s have a fireworks show the world will never forget! Let’s make this a global celebration! To do so, we’re going to connect our nuclear weapons to a random number generator. A hundred nukes will be launched to random coordinates on the Earth’s surface. Who knows where they’ll end up?!

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      the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.

      Have you seen the other options? Libertarians are a NAMBLA fueled trainwreck. Greens are… not great for a lot of reasons. Third Way is just fascism in a three piece suit. Reform is six oil companies in a trench coat.

      You can’t multi-party your way out of this one.

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        You can indeed have better governing by a multi party system. But then again how would you americans know? Oh wait, you are somehow different then everyone and even trying something different is crazy.

        Enjoy your rapidly collapsing empire I guess. You have truely tried nothing and are all out of ideas after all.

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      If we organize we could seize control of the democratic party, and the Democratic establishment has been scared shitless of that since 2016, but they managed to play us off each other like chumps. And they still are. Because we have no organization. Turning us against each other.

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        The Democratic Party is a private institution. They are not scared of anything their voters do, because in the end they can simply control who gets money, who gets nominated, committee assignments, etc.

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            They do control who votes on our behalf though. Citizens vote through a proxy, not directly for any given candidate. And our representatives can technically vote however they want.

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              That’s why people like Talarico and Platner matter. Platner just beat out Mills, the establishment pick for the seat. He shows that democracy works when people are engaged and organized.

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          In a hypothetical world where extremely unlikely things could happen for the sake of experiment, what would happen… if we all just said “fuck you” to the establishment? We all stopped going to jury duty, we stopped voting, we stopped working, … then we organized and created our own jury, elections, and essential work? Like, if we somehow seized the process of capital punishment, capital gains, capital everything… by just deciding to do it for ourselves, not for modern capitalist organizations. Why would happen? Would the government see its own society as a kind of militia and attempt to recapture control? How might they when no citizen is cooperating?

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      We only have a 2 party system on paper. Behind closed doors, they are working for the same goals. Make the rich people happy so they can be rich people with influence. The general population is just something that they have to manage on their way to their goals. Adding more parties will help, but it will eventually end up the same. As long as you need money to get elected, then money will control those who get elected.

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      12 hours ago

      This guy is from Maine, and they do have ranked choice voting for federal elections, one of the steps on the way to breaking the two-party stranglehold.

      Of course the Republicans fought it tooth and nail, because they will never win another race with a system like this, and exploited a loophole in the state constitution to keep ranked choice out of state races.

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      12 hours ago

      Back that up with a proportional representation system.

      Any party with full control will become a tyrant.

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      If the constitution and the political dynamics are designed for bi-partisan system it’s pretty hard to evolve out of it. A third party can also play as the king maker and have an unfair influence compared to its size. Some countries have a more dynamic coalition system but that has biases as well.

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      America will never be fixed because that would require all anericans to look inward and accept their shortcomings. Americans are incapable of doing that

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        Ah yes, it’s not a train of systemic issues compounding over 250 years combined with weaponized wealth disparity to keep everyone sick, isolated and tired. It’s because they won’t pull up their moral bootstraps.

        Give me a fucking break.

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        Rofl, not quite. There are plenty of Americans who think it’s fucked up, but thank you for generalizing.