• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    the only way americans will be represented by their government is if they out the 2 party system.

    Have you seen the other options? Libertarians are a NAMBLA fueled trainwreck. Greens are… not great for a lot of reasons. Third Way is just fascism in a three piece suit. Reform is six oil companies in a trench coat.

    You can’t multi-party your way out of this one.

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      3 hours ago

      You can indeed have better governing by a multi party system. But then again how would you americans know? Oh wait, you are somehow different then everyone and even trying something different is crazy.

      Enjoy your rapidly collapsing empire I guess. You have truely tried nothing and are all out of ideas after all.

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        1 hour ago

        You can indeed have better governing by a multi party system.

        Glances at German, the UK, France, and Canada

        I’m still waiting for these bets to pay out.

        But then again how would you americans know?

        Because we’re not trapped in the fucking basement. Countries with multi-party systems have the exact same basket of Principle-Agent problems suffered by US constituencies. The Two-Party system is endemic of partisan entrenchment and FPTP elections and a bunch of other archaic proto-democratic procedural relics. But a Three-Party system doesn’t get around all the other problems of district-based representation, over-large constituencies, money in politics, private monopolies in mass media, or the simple fact that the bigger parties have all the manpower and the first selection of appealing candidates.

        It should be mentioned that Donald Trump tried to run for President way the fuck back in 2000 and couldn’t even get the Reform Party endorsement. What propelled his campaign in 2016 was the obsessive media coverage that he couldn’t get sixteen years earlier.

        Trump was able to tap a neglected base of voters largely concentrated in the GOP and solidify a party at war with itself under Obama. Splitting his brand of MAGA Fascism into its own partisan force leaves us with all the same problems we’re facing under a modern GOP majority.

        Similarly, the Reform UK in Britain is just gobbling up all the Conservative voters. This, while the Greens and… uh… Your Party(?) are snatching up Labour. When you can only have one winner per district, multiple parties do nothing to improve individual representation, because you’re still stuck in a district that’s split 60/40 between “People who kinda-sorta agree with you” and “People who want to see you drawn and quartered”.

        Enjoy your rapidly collapsing empire I guess.

        Whistling past the graveyard, bitch.